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gobikerider

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Hmm... well, you definitely have me reconsidering! I'm currently on a 2012 non-Retina MBP with 500GB, but I only have about 100GB left. I think most of my files are junk though, so I'll definitely do some cleaning if I decide that I go for the newer model.
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I definitely need to check out the benchmarks once they start coming out. If the improvements are significant enough, I might go for the newer one. We'll see!
Lol I'm on the same 2012 MacBook Pro with a Ssd and 16 gb ram it works like its a new 2015 MacBook Air . I'd say save your money invest in a nice Ssd and upgrade the ram and go with that. Quite honestly other than a gpu improvement I'm not sure a new MacBook would be much performance improvement from our MacBook Pro atleast not enough for me to go spend 1300.
 

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I'm going to wait until WWDC and see if MacBook Pros are updated, but I'm starting to wonder if I should upgrade to a MacBook from my 2011 "15 MacBook Pro. The M5 seems like a beast so I'm guessing the M7 will be even better.
 
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viperGTS

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Lol I'm on the same 2012 MacBook Pro with a Ssd and 16 gb ram it works like its a new 2015 MacBook Air . I'd say save your money invest in a nice Ssd and upgrade the ram and go with that. Quite honestly other than a gpu improvement I'm not sure a new MacBook would be much performance improvement from our MacBook Pro atleast not enough for me to go spend 1300.

I've been wanting something a lot lighter for a while now, and the MacBook seems perfect for that. Plus, I can sell it and theoretically spend "less" towards a new one.
 

joscejrod

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Same as m5 on single core, probably on par with the m7 in multi-core... :eek:

In fact, the m7 could be almost as fast as i5 macbook pro (early 2015) with 28 tdp!! and i7 macbook air (early 2015).


Single core:
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Multicore:

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Think about it, we can have almost the same performance than 13" macbook air/pro that you can buy today at shops, with one hour of battery more (maybe it could be more, let's see in tests), so the upgrade (except that 480p camera:() was impressive!!
A lot of people like me, would like to know all new macbooks at same time (new mpb are higly expected at WWDC), but if apple redesigns them to macbook form factor, maybe they could only use 15w skylake chips(althought a 28w cpu it's possible with a new cooling system, and this cpu, as you know, has an iris graphics 550 - other world). So in my opinion, performance is not a issue anymore with 2n gen 12" macbook.
If you are ready to go with one single usb-c port, you isn't going to miss 1,33 or 2 more screen inches, and you can live with 480p facetime camera ...you're gonna love it!!
 

caparsons

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I pulled the trigger on a 1.2Ghz/512GB SG model. The speeds seem acceptable and, more importantly, it'll be lighter in my carry on and should be easier to use on the drop down trays while flying. And the added battery life is something I'm pretty excited about, too!
 
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Unrealmac1988

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I just saw: the MB Air got 60Hz 4k via a software update. Do you think this is also possible with the rMB?
 
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jeremiah256

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I'm going to wait until WWDC and see if MacBook Pros are updated, but I'm starting to wonder if I should upgrade to a MacBook from my 2011 "15 MacBook Pro. The M5 seems like a beast so I'm guessing the M7 will be even better.
I have the same MBP and I was just about to pull the trigger on a refurbished 2015 MBA, but these benchmarks and feedback...so tempting.
 

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I ordered a Space Black for me and a Rose Gold for my wife last night! Paid a little extra for quicker shipping - should be here between Monday - Wednesday.
 
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PTLove

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You guys have to realize how the Core M is designed to work. The reason its so close to the I5's and I7's in some benchmarks is because it IS a I5. The architecture of the chip is identical.

What you have to realize is that its performance at those levels is not something it can sustain. For loading a webpage, it probably works just as well as a MBP. For compiling source code, or running a Photoshop filter, it will be far worse. Because it will have to throttle down well before it finishes, whereas the MBP would continue its performance throughout the life of the program.

Thats where the TDP of the chip comes in. Intel allows the Core M to exceed its TDP values for short bursts, but for anything lasting long ("long" being more than like 50milliseconds) its throttled back.
[doublepost=1461187300][/doublepost]You guys have to realize how the Core M is designed to work. The reason its so close to the I5's and I7's in some benchmarks is because it IS a I5. The architecture of the chip is identical.

What you have to realize is that its performance at those levels is not something it can sustain. For loading a webpage, it probably works just as well as a MBP. For compiling source code, or running a Photoshop filter, it will be far worse. Because it will have to throttle down well before it finishes, whereas the MBP would continue its performance throughout the life of the program.

Thats where the TDP of the chip comes in. Intel allows the Core M to exceed its TDP values for short bursts, but for anything lasting long ("long" being more than like 50milliseconds) its throttled back.
 

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Question to those buying the new Macbook. I need some advice!

Would it be better to buy the last year models with the faster processor and 512GB of space for $1,299 or would it be better to buy the new one with the basic processor and 256GB or space for the same price?

Trying to decide... I need the machine as basic travel laptop, companion to the 27 iMac that's in the office.
 

yashz

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No problem!

Picked up a RG 1.2/512 model in store. I'm the first person to buy the new rose gold there. Really excited and surprised. Now head home to set it up. Thanks for everyone's advice here!
 

FilmIndustryGuy

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I hope all of you ordered the new one because your 2015 rMB is officially a dinosaur. Nothing like unboxing a new toy, tweeting it, youtubing it, calling all your friends to tell them about your new love and don't forget to refresh the stock page all day at work just in case one shows up at your local store. Once you blow your load get back on this site and spend a combination of 200 hours speculating and talking about dreams of the next version a toy you are anticipating that will complete your life. Also don't forget to text the specs and pics of your new mac to the girl you are obsessing about. They dig new tech and completely get turned on with 15% speed bumps.
 

joscejrod

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Picked up a RG 1.2/512 model in store. I'm the first person to buy the new rose gold there. Really excited and surprised. Now head home to set it up. Thanks for everyone's advice here!

Could you run graphics test to compare hd 515 with old generation? Thank you!!
 
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duervo

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I hope all of you ordered the new one because your 2015 rMB is officially a dinosaur. Nothing like unboxing a new toy, tweeting it, youtubing it, calling all your friends to tell them about your new love and don't forget to refresh the stock page all day at work just in case one shows up at your local store. Once you blow your load get back on this site and spend a combination of 200 hours speculating and talking about dreams of the next version a toy you are anticipating that will complete your life. Also don't forget to text the specs and pics of your new mac to the girl you are obsessing about. They dig new tech and completely get turned on with 15% speed bumps.

Makes perfect sense.

That's how I live my life.
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In fact, the m7 could be almost as fast as i5 macbook pro (early 2015) with 28 tdp!! and i7 macbook air (early 2015).


Single core:
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Multicore:

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Think about it, we can have almost the same performance than 13" macbook air/pro that you can buy today at shops, with one hour of battery more (maybe it could be more, let's see in tests), so the upgrade (except that 480p camera:() was impressive!!

Not really. All this does is expose a flaw in the testing methodology used by benchmarking apps such as Geekbench.

You will not see those numbers with the same tests on sustained runs. The m series will throttle down long before its bigger siblings do.

Geekbench, etc. needs to enhance their software to perform sustained workload benchmarks. Once they do that, you will see a more accurate picture of how the processors differ.
 
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yashz

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Here, all steps are explained:

http://9to5mac.com/2015/05/14/how-to-benchmark-your-mac-free-downloads/

Please, run blackdisktest and cinebench r15 for us.

Okay, sorry I was stuck in traffic then need to run some errand, installed all updates available on the mac. Hopefully I'm doing it correctly. If not let me know and I'll try again. Thanks.

For the BlackDiskTest, I couldn't get a screenshot with the numbers that are showing on the gauges when both stops. As soon as I took a screenshot, the test ran again from the beginning.

First run after restarting and when both gauges stop: Write 812.8, Read 926.8

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For Cinebench, OpenGL 19.49fps, CPU 214cb

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