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>>30% loss of gaming performance after 10.6.7

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lucashungaro

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Nov 20, 2010
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major7 said:
Hi!

So, after going back to 10.6.4 and manually install 10.6.5, 10.6.6 and finally 10.6.7 here is what i came up to regarding Killing Floor and CS Source (Played the same maps with same default display options: All high/ Medium, native resolution)

10.6.4: The worst....lowests fps values for those games. Steady 20's for KF and 20/30 for CS.

10.6.5 and 10.6.6: Around 30/35 for KF and 40 for CS.

10.6.7: Around 25 for KF and 40 for CS.


It's hard to be more precise as the fps values vary a lot. Except for 10.6.4, all fps values, when maps are starting, start at 60, 80 or 100 but then drop to those values when facing the enemy and that's what matters.

I seem to notice some improvments going from 10.6.5 to 10.6.6 but that could be my imagination as values looked the same.

Now, from 10.6.6 to 10.6.7 i noticed, that with .7, it was a little worse, specially on KF but also found that on CS, fps values, altough almost the same, do vary more than on 10.6.6.

Honestly, as i don't play alot and don't find those differences significant, i'm going to stick with 10.6.7. It's still an update and must have some improvements in other areas.

Ah, i came to the conclusion that i get the same fps values for 10.6.7 installed from soft. update before! I believe you when you say SC2 improved so maybe it wasn't such a waste of time...lol
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10.6.4 had a bug on the graphic drivers I think. Good to see you got rid of the issues with gaming! :)

Installing the 10.6.7 from Software Update when you're on 10.6.6 probably doesn't use the combo update, but I lost so much time doing all that reinstalling (2 times in a week as I had previously downgraded from Lion Preview days ago) that I just didn't want to risk even more. :D

First time in three years using Apple products that I have this kind of problems. This and iOS 4.3.x draining my iPhone battery like crazy. Hope they get back to normal soon. :apple:
 
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jhatz

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Jun 26, 2010
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GreyMatta said:
Fixed it :)

Im on 10.6.7 and getting 40fps on SC2

I had to reinstall from the USB Drive again
10.6.5 to 10.6.6 using the update from Apples website (non-combo)
10.6.6 to 10.6.7 again using the update from Apples website (non-combo)

only after doing the updates from Apple did I use the Software Update app

I think the key is using the non-combo separate updates from the download section of Apples website
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I'm looking to buy a 11" ultimate in the next few days. What OS version will it be loaded with? If it's higher than 10.6.5 do I need to reinstall the OS and incremental update like you have described above?
 
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GreyMatta

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Jul 29, 2007
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jhatz said:
I'm looking to buy a 11" ultimate in the next few days. What OS version will it be loaded with? If it's higher than 10.6.5 do I need to reinstall the OS and incremental update like you have described above?
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yes I think they still ship with 10.6.5
 
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skrysko

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I was having problems with my 11" MacBook Air playing MP4 videos full screen, they were totally choppy. Installing the 10.6.6 and 10.6.7 updates manually from the Apple site has fixed the problem.

Thanks!
 
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Killery96

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Mar 20, 2011
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Awrgh

Okay, 2.26 C2D, 4g RAM, 9400M, 1280x800. I play starcraft 2 on all ultra minus shaders which are at low. I usually get anywhere from 70 to 20 FPS, depending drastically on where I am in the game. I updated from 10.6.7 and I get a max of 20 FPS on those settings, and a minimum of about .7FPS. Glad I have that back up.

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Cerano

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Oct 28, 2010
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guys i wiped my ssd clean, did a fresh install from 10.6.5 and updated manually to 10.6.7

still not working mate
 

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jim.ryan

macrumors newbie
Mar 13, 2011
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Is everyone still seeing poor graphics performance with 10.6.7? I had been holding off updating, but now Portal 2 requires 10.6.7, and I was hoping to be able to play it on my MBA.

I really don't game very much on here, so if it hurts performance elsewhere (i.e. Photoshop, which I need for work), then it's not worth it for me.

Thanks,
Jim
 
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ZipZap

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Dec 14, 2007
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I have a new MBA purchased in March with 10.6.5. I upgraded to 10.6.6 using software update the first day as this was the newest OS.

Whats the best way to determine my graphics performance at this point.

Need to determine if I should start back on 10.6.5 or whether I can install 10.6.7 incremental/supplemental.

Thanks
 
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jim.ryan

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Mar 13, 2011
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ZipZap said:
I have a new MBA purchased in March with 10.6.5. I upgraded to 10.6.6 using software update the first day as this was the newest OS.

Whats the best way to determine my graphics performance at this point.

Need to determine if I should start back on 10.6.5 or whether I can install 10.6.7 incremental/supplemental.

Thanks
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10.6.7 appears to be the problem, not 10.6.6. You can check out Xbench, or otherwise just start up a game and have it show the framerate (differs depending on the game, in most Source-based games, enter "cl_showfps 1" in the game's console [that's from memory, I may be wrong]).

Of course, there's no way to determine what's going to happen after installing 10.6.7, so you may just have to go for it, or wait for someone to reply to my post (above).

If you do decide to give it a go, post your results, as I'm in the exact same boat :)

Jim
 
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Torrential

macrumors newbie
Apr 26, 2011
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One more data point:

MBA 11 Ultimate

Unboxed and immediately updated to 10.6.7 through "software update"...mistake

720p video was unwatchable; constant stuttering

Reverted to 10.6.5 using included usb drive and installed 10.6.6 combo update

720p video runs smoothly

I haven't tried the incremental update to 10.6.7 yet, can anyone confirm that this is safe?

Thanks. This is my first Mac, and this forum has been very helpful.
 
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GreyMatta

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Jul 29, 2007
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Torrential said:
One more data point:

MBA 11 Ultimate

Unboxed and immediately updated to 10.6.7 through "software update"...mistake

720p video was unwatchable; constant stuttering

Reverted to 10.6.5 using included usb drive and installed 10.6.6 combo update

720p video runs smoothly

I haven't tried the incremental update to 10.6.7 yet, can anyone confirm that this is safe?

Thanks. This is my first Mac, and this forum has been very helpful.
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as long as you dont use the 10.6.7 combo update you will be OK
 
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jim.ryan

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Mar 13, 2011
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GreyMatta said:
as long as you dont use the 10.6.7 combo update you will be OK
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So the problem is actually with the combo update?

I'm on 10.6.6, and Software Update wants to update me to 10.6.7, would that be good, or is that the "combo update"? If not, how can I update to 10.6.7?

Thanks,
JIm
 
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GreyMatta

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Jul 29, 2007
212
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bcaslis

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jim.ryan said:
10.6.7 appears to be the problem, not 10.6.6. You can check out Xbench, or otherwise just start up a game and have it show the framerate (differs depending on the game, in most Source-based games, enter "cl_showfps 1" in the game's console [that's from memory, I may be wrong]).

Of course, there's no way to determine what's going to happen after installing 10.6.7, so you may just have to go for it, or wait for someone to reply to my post (above).

If you do decide to give it a go, post your results, as I'm in the exact same boat :)

Jim
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So what's a "good" number and a "bad" number in Xbench?
 
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Susurs

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Jun 18, 2010
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And still no action from Apple's side about this problem... :(
 
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iNeko

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May 13, 2007
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I just tested mine, and I think it's in the "bad" range, because both the 9400 and 9600 in my Macbook Pro smokes it:

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macsrcool1234

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Oct 7, 2010
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can somebody please help me with going back and reinstalling?

this is my first mac and i have no idea what i doing. i understand how to reinstall osx and properly update it incrementally.

is there's a way to back everything up (applications included) and restore them once i've reinstalled? also, would this restore the "bad" settings that cause the problem in the first place? thanks.
 
Lord Appleseed

Lord Appleseed

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Nov 7, 2010
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macsrcool1234 said:
can somebody please help me with going back and reinstalling?

this is my first mac and i have no idea what i doing. i understand how to reinstall osx and properly update it incrementally.

is there's a way to back everything up (applications included) and restore them once i've reinstalled? also, would this restore the "bad" settings that cause the problem in the first place? thanks.
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Do a Time-Machine backup with a portable hard drive to save your Data and Programs.
Then stick in the USB stick with the Mac Software, select Disk Utility before Installation and delete the MB Airs hard drive first, then do a clean install of Snow Leopard, download and install the updates and then restore the system with your Time Machine backup. -> DONE.
 
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