32-Inch iMac With Mini-LED Display Rumored to Launch in 2025

[theorist9]

The studio display new int he US was regularly $1299 for much of last year on amazon. For some reason its the highest it ever was again lately. I got mine for 11 using an employees discount

Where on AZ were you seeing it regularly for $1,299 new? I checked camelcamelcamel's AZ price tracker, and the lowest they reported for the least expensive version (standard glass, no height adjustment) was $1,350

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Apple Studio Display - Standard Glass - Tilt-Adjustable Stand

Amazon price tracking & price history for Apple Studio Display - Standard Glass - Tilt-Adjustable Stand

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[theorist9]

Second hand? Here in Denmark I haven’t seen it cheaper than $1700 as new (but that includes VAT&taxes which is ridiculous here).

They are rarely (if ever) available as second hand. But that’s the downside of such a small country 🤷‍♂️

Assuming your VAT & taxes is 25%, that's only $1700/1.25 = $1,360 for the product itself, which is essentially equal to the lowest I've seen in the US.

But yeah, a US advantage is these are now commonly available used. I've seen them advertised locally for about $800, in pristine condition and with AC+.

 

[ninecows]

If they could make a sub $1000 barebone 5k, 27 display I would consider it. Heck - they could even call it SE and get rid of the webcam, mic, usb ports and speakers.

But knowing apple they would rather do the opposite: Make a 24” for $999 and keep the webcam and all the other useless bells and whistles and force me to pay premium for the extra 3 inches I want.

 

[PhunkyBuc]

Thus Apple has created an OS that requires a Retina display to look its best, without providing a cost-reasonable (for Apple--I'm still thinking >=$800 ) way for consumer (as opposed to prosumer) purchasers to acquire a glossy Retina external montior.

Yea I mean they sold the thunderbolt displays for $999 I'm pretty sure, and those had the webcam and speakers. Studio Display is just overpriced.

It’s really annoying that it’s so hard to mod and hack the iMac 2020, 27” to work as a monitor. I have seen it done, but it’s super ugly and risky

I mean: It’s a really really nice display with a resolution that works very well with MacOS. But it’s stuck with a CPU and tech that will soon be outdated

Dude I'm still rocking my 2015 27" 5k over here! It's definitely on it's last legs, but I'm sure you can get a few more years out of a 2020 version. (Though maybe not due to Apple Silicon + most recent macOS? Clearly I am not running the most recent OS on mine LOL)

 

[theorist9]

It’s really annoying that it’s so hard to mod and hack the iMac 2020, 27” to work as a monitor. I have seen it done, but it’s super ugly and risky

I mean: It’s a really really nice display with a resolution that works very well with MacOS. But it’s stuck with a CPU and tech that will soon be outdated

I'm facing the same issue with my 2019 iMac. But, at least here in the US, I could sell my iMac for nearly the same as a new ASD. [Mine is an i9 with 128 GB RAM and AC+.] So given that I can essentially exchange the two, there's no motivation for me to mod it.

 

[picpicmac]

without providing a cost-reasonable (for Apple--I'm still thinking >=$800 )

The "cost reasonable" Macs are the iMac and the MBA. Both already come with displays.

Yes, that is the strategy of Apple. Those are the products to buy if one wants a computer for the home, or for school.

The Apple STUDIO Display is for people who want a serious work computer to use in their.... studio - or whatever one wants to call the space in which one works/creates.

I've posted this in a couple of other threads but why not repeat it here: The ASD is half a Mac. You combine that half with another half to build your Mac system. Apple is not in the monitor business like BenQ or Dell.

 

[theorist9]

The "cost reasonable" Macs are the iMac and the MBA. Both already come with displays.

Yes, that is the strategy of Apple. Those are the products to buy if one wants a computer for the home, or for school.

The Apple STUDIO Display is for people who want a serious work computer to use in their.... studio - or whatever one wants to call the space in which one works/creates.

I've posted this in a couple of other threads but why not repeat it here: The ASD is half a Mac. You combine that half with another half to build your Mac system. Apple is not in the monitor business like BenQ or Dell.

And what if you have an MBA, but (like many) want to hook it to an external monitor for home use, and find that MacOS requires a Retina display to be non-fatiguing on text. What are your options then (assuming you don't like the Samsung's matte screen)? It's a big ask for someone who budgeted, say, $1200 for an Air to have to spend $1600 on an external display, especially when they probably have no need for the ASD's bells and whistles.

Or what if you're a home user of a 27" iMac, and want to transition to AS, but don't want to downsize to a 24" display? [And balk at spending nearly the same for an ASD as the entry-level price of Apple's 2020 27" iMac?]

It was fine for Apple to not be in the consumer monitor business when MacOS could look great on readily-available monitors from companies that were (like High Sierra on my 27" 4k Dell). But once Apple changed MacOS to remove subpixel text rendering, thus essentially requiring a Retina display for nicely sharp text, that left those among Apple's consumer (as opposed to prosumer) customers that had gotten used to nice text on a 27" display in a tough spot.

Of course, Apple will do what Apple wants -- I'm just a "vox clamatis in deserto".

 

[ninecows]

The "cost reasonable" Macs are the iMac and the MBA. Both already come with displays.

Yes, that is the strategy of Apple. Those are the products to buy if one wants a computer for the home, or for school.

The Apple STUDIO Display is for people who want a serious work computer to use in their.... studio - or whatever one wants to call the space in which one works/creates.

I've posted this in a couple of other threads but why not repeat it here: The ASD is half a Mac. You combine that half with another half to build your Mac system. Apple is not in the monitor business like BenQ or Dell.

That's fair. But they're missing out on the prosumers here. Those that want to do semi-serious work, but cannot afford the studio combo because they are not that pro. Not able to deduct the investment etc. I currently use my iMac for music production but I'm pretty much on amateur level. The 27" is just about big enough to display what I want in Logic Pro x. A few inches more would be perfect. 3 inches less is just horrible.

Having used a standard non-retina display together with a MacBook Pro (at work - so not my own device) I am starting to get the point on how poorly it scales when hooked up with eg. 3440x1440.

Apple did put them self in the monitor business with the Apple display and removing the 27" prosumer option that the old iMacs used to fill out.

Don't get me wrong: I understand why Apple is making this move. It's a money grab exercise and they are in the business of making more profit. That's fair. They removed the lower prosumer step on their ladder and introduced a new step with more power and bells and whistles 1.5-2x higher up. Those who don't want to reach for that step will then have to take a step down. Either facing scaling issues or settle for less screen estate and something that's mainly build for browsing.

 

[Rychiar]

Where on AZ were you seeing it regularly for $1,299 new? I checked camelcamelcamel's AZ price tracker, and the lowest they reported for the least expensive version (standard glass, no height adjustment) was $1,350

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Apple Studio Display - Standard Glass - Tilt-Adjustable Stand

Amazon price tracking & price history for Apple Studio Display - Standard Glass - Tilt-Adjustable Stand

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Last spring / winter it was on and off regularly 1299, it was 1350 in the summer and 1499 later . I can’t believe It’s full price now. At one point back in like february they even had the nanotexture one that’s regularly 1899 for 1350, which in retrospect I kicked myself for not buying

 

[ninecows]

I've posted this in a couple of other threads but why not repeat it here: The ASD is half a Mac. You combine that half with another half to build your Mac system. Apple is not in the monitor business like BenQ or Dell.

So assuming you mean half an iMac, then yes it is. Half an iMac at the full entry price of a whole iMac 27.

Full price - half value. My Apple stocks are doing great btw.

 

[Chuckeee]

So assuming you mean half an iMac, then yes it is. Half an iMac at the full entry price of a whole iMac 27.

That is not true anymore (actually for more than a year) since Apple no longer sells 27” iMac. And comparisons to some hypothetical new large iMac is just guessing.

 

[theorist9]

That is not true anymore (actually for more than a year) since Apple no longer sells 27” iMac. And comparisons to some hypothetical new large iMac is just guessing.

Even though Apple no longer sells it, I think the comparison I still legitimate: That the ASD is half a 27" iMac at nearly the full entry price of the last whole 27" iMac.

Plus these devices were nearly contemporaneous—the 2020 27" iMac was discontinued the same month the ASD was introduced (March 2022), further reinforcing the legitimacy of the comparison.

 

[ninecows]

That is not true anymore (actually for more than a year) since Apple no longer sells 27” iMac. And comparisons to some hypothetical new large iMac is just guessing.

Not comparing to a hypothetical new Mac.

Just saying that compared to what you could get while iMacs had intel inside, then today you can only get half of that (27” display w webcam and speakers) for the same price.

Then you need to pay an additional
$600 to just get a bare minimum Mac (eg Mac mini base model) plus keyboard and mouse that also used to come with the iMac.

Even though you can’t get that anymore the point is still valid. They cut the product in half, but kept the price. Is it fair? Totally fair since it’s good for Apple shareholders.

Is it good for prosumers? No. It leaves a gap and prosumers now have to go to either a higher step or settle for less than they could two years ago.

#shrinkflation 😂

 

[ambientdaw]

Not comparing to a hypothetical new Mac.

Just saying that compared to what you could get while iMacs had intel inside, then today you can only get half of that (27” display w webcam and speakers) for the same price.

Then you need to pay an additional
$600 to just get a bare minimum Mac (eg Mac mini base model) plus keyboard and mouse that also used to come with the iMac.

Even though you can’t get that anymore the point is still valid. They cut the product in half, but kept the price. Is it fair? Totally fair since it’s good for Apple shareholders.

Is it good for prosumers? No. It leaves a gap and prosumers now have to go to either a higher step or settle for less than they could two years ago.

#shrinkflation 😂

Agreed. Since they are a ridiculously rich company, they could easily do a goodwill to the tiny sliver of the prosumer market and not be terribly greedy like they are, offer reasonable prices (including their storage and ram!!) or at least make their OS and apps as good as they used to be. Bad form, Apple! But alas it is still the best choice and basically works and is pretty dependable as long as you don't use their services.

 

[cocoua]

iMac Pro neither had sense and there it was.

This has some sense for Apple as the new iMac pro wouldnt be any upgradable at all, so "Pros" who buy it, would be expending a lot in one machine for 4-5 yeras, before expending AGAIN a lot of money in other machine they wouldnt spend in other way.

I mean, Mac Studio and Display Studio are a "budget" option Vs same specs iMac 32"

Moreover, Apple could offer a 32" super screen W/O cannibalizing Dsiplay XR or Display Studio sales, as it would be tied to a computer, anyway, it is just odd a Pro user using just one screen, so Apple asumes a big chunk of iMac 32" would be using another display with the door open to be an Apple one (or not, but the option is there).

So and iMac Pro for users has little sense at some point, but to me, would be great, there isnt any 32" screen good enough out there under 2000USD and I would appreciate a tidy desk and space saving from the iMac 32" Vs MacStudio + any other screen.

This would force me to buy a new computer in 4 years, as it would be with the Mac Studio, but the money Apple would get would be almost double.

Appek works like this, you have a real good Mac from 999USD BUT for ~150USD more you get something extra you would need, and so on until you reach the 15.000USD turbo charged Mac Pro. All have pros and cons. But we are 9 billion with different needs.

 

[switz]

I upgraded my 2013 fully optioned MacPro and two 27” Apple monitors in 2021 to a fully optioned Mac Studio and two Studio Displays.

My Mac Studio runs all of my applications in a satisfactory manner. I doubt that most of those programs could that run in single core mode will get fast enough on the the latest and greatest model to pay full price for the newest model (my 2021 M1 Mac Studio cost over $7,000 and current trade in is around $1,500) within five years.

We getting to the point of fractions of an eye blink speed improvements.

I am thinking a 24” iMac fully optioned would be adequate for our Airstream Trailer during our summer travels as there are less wires than the MacMini with a display option. A 27” screen is huge in a confined space.

 

[PhunkyBuc]

tl;dr; the ASD is simply overpriced for what it is.

 

[umbilical]

tl;dr; the ASD is simply overpriced for what it is.

yes, is overpriced but it resolve for me a lot crap like this: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/betterdisplay-app-resolution-percentages.2415916/ I need install that app to make my ASUS looks "good", also I don't have a camera and the sound of the ASUS sucks.

Overall for my need the ASD resolve all my problems, I want buy it but I'll kill myself if apple release a new version close the date after I buy it, so I'll wait to see if something appear this year.

 

[PhunkyBuc]

FYI - the standard version w/ standard glass is on sale again on Amazon for $1299 in the US right now.

That's at least a bit more palatable...

 

[Chuckeee]

FYI - the standard version w/ standard glass is on sale again on Amazon for $1299 in the US right now.

That's at least a bit more palatable...

The was for a 27”, not a 32” display.

 

[PhunkyBuc]

The was for a 27”, not a 32” display.

Correct. We've been discussing the cost of both sizes the last few pages.

 

[switz]

The $64,000 question is how long will Apple support these first generation Apple Studio Displays with an "A" series chip inside? It was not the most recent A chip to start.

 

[Tagbert]

The $64,000 question is how long will Apple support these first generation Apple Studio Displays with an "A" series chip inside? It was not the most recent A chip to start.

Does it really need ongoing software updates? Once it was stable, what more updates would be needed? For phones and computers, updates are to fix bugs in functionality and to allow for support of new software. For a monitor, there is little need of the first and none of the second.

 

[PhunkyBuc]

yes, is overpriced but it resolve for me a lot crap like this: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/betterdisplay-app-resolution-percentages.2415916/ I need install that app to make my ASUS looks "good", also I don't have a camera and the sound of the ASUS sucks.

Overall for my need the ASD resolve all my problems, I want buy it but I'll kill myself if apple release a new version close the date after I buy it, so I'll wait to see if something appear this year.

Welp, I've had my Apple Studio Display for about a month now... and honestly, it kind of sucks. At least as far as the webcam / microphone go.

Literally half the times I have joined a Zoom call or Google meet over the past month, my audio and video is simply unusable. Choppy, frozen, etc. I've had to restart the monitor multiple times to get it to work. Today that didn't even help, so I ended up jumping on my 2015 5k iMac to take my meeting.

It's straight up embarrassing. And unacceptable for a $1500+ piece of equipment. And of course I am outside the return window... very frustrating!

 

[ambientdaw]

Welp, I've had my Apple Studio Display for about a month now... and honestly, it kind of sucks. At least as far as the webcam / microphone go.

Literally half the times I have joined a Zoom call or Google meet over the past month, my audio and video is simply unusable. Choppy, frozen, etc. I've had to restart the monitor multiple times to get it to work. Today that didn't even help, so I ended up jumping on my 2015 5k iMac to take my meeting.

It's straight up embarrassing. And unacceptable for a $1500+ piece of equipment. And of course I am outside the return window... very frustrating!

This is disconcerting! Do you have it set up through a hub or have other peripherals or software that could be throwing a wrench into things?