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51% of iPad buyers own Windows PCs

I'm a windows owner as well. (posting right now on a self built i7). there is nothing I would really like more then to own only apple products but to be honest theres 2 reasons I don't. 1. I can't afford it. I have a home studio and need some serious computer horsepower to run protools and cant afford to buy a $4000 mac pro. and 2. Even if I could afford to get the mac pro my $1500 self built i7 outperforms it when it comes to pro tools for some reason. (tons of tests have been done). But I have become so obsessed with Apple over the past few years. It started with a macbook which I liked the changeup from all windows all the time but then I got an iPhone and It hasnt left my side for more then 5 minutes since 2007. (first the original iphone unlocked on t-mo then upgraded to a 3GS on ATT). I would never dream of owning a different phone now and I've been glued to the ipad forums since launch. (The wife is getting me one for my bday next month however you have no idea how many times I've almost said the hell with it and went and bought one myself cause I can't wait). So yes as if no one knew already. Apple is converting windows users with the iPhone, iPad and iPods.
 
We've got multiple products in our house, both Mac and Windows products. The best and most exciting ones (and most used I might add) are the Apple/Mac products. The newest arrival, the WiFi iPad is at the top of that list waiting for it's sibling, the iPad 3G!
 
GamecockMac said:
It's a comment typical of someone who is here only to troll the forum and dispense their Apple haterade. I mean, have you seen this person's signature?

Pathetic.
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Absolutely, but even more pathetic is the moderating here, I 've reported his posts and there's been no reaction, anything to get hits... Look at what this guy can get away with in another thread:

calebz said:
To the previous poster:
http://www.zunerama.com/zune-celebrity-sightings.php

Now don't you feel like a reeeeeeeeeeal ********. 'Cause you know what, you should! :mad:

You're just a Kool-Aid drinking sickening, hypocritical fanboy. But, don't worry... I could smack you winy little bitches down ALL day. My pleasure. :D
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Can you believe that?
 
CrAkD said:
I'm a windows owner as well. (posting right now on a self built i7). there is nothing I would really like more then to own only apple products but to be honest theres 2 reasons I don't. 1. I can't afford it. I have a home studio and need some serious computer horsepower to run protools and cant afford to buy a $4000 mac pro. and 2. Even if I could afford to get the mac pro my $1500 self built i7 outperforms it when it comes to pro tools for some reason. (tons of tests have been done). But I have become so obsessed with Apple over the past few years. It started with a macbook which I liked the changeup from all windows all the time but then I got an iPhone and It hasnt left my side for more then 5 minutes since 2007. (first the original iphone unlocked on t-mo then upgraded to a 3GS on ATT). I would never dream of owning a different phone now and I've been glued to the ipad forums since launch. (The wife is getting me one for my bday next month however you have no idea how many times I've almost said the hell with it and went and bought one myself cause I can't wait). So yes as if no one knew already. Apple is converting windows users with the iPhone, iPad and iPods.
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I feel your pain. I too have become obsessed with Apple. I used to dislike Apple until my cousin talked me into it because of my photography business. Nows its Apple or bust although I have an XP partition on my MBP but only for a couple of applications. I was hoping for an iPad (order for 3G version) for my B-Day 3 days ago. B-Day was not acknowledged at my house perhaps for fear of an iPad conversation:( Wife doesn't get me those kind of things. Of well... Happy early B-Day to you:)
 
I own a windows 7 PC and have a 32 gig 3g on pre-order.

I've tried apple products and I still say microsoft's desktop interfaces are more comfortable. I will NEVER replace my PC with a mac.

However, for mobile computing, I was surprised at how I nearly instantly learned to use the iPhone interface. I always thought the iPhone was too small to for the web and video applications most people were using it for and had a lot of unrealized potential simply because it was phone-sized.

When I found out about the iPad, it was a product I had basically wanted, imagined and been waiting for since the first time I saw the iPhone.
 
goobot said:
those 51% are missing out on a real computer.
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:rolleyes: or could be that we dont need to spend that $$ on something we really don't need. I have never had problems with windows, since most users just have PC's to simple word processing and surfing the net. Why spend 2x or 3x of that of a PC when simple will do.

I bought the iPad 3G because I thought it was a cool toy. Do I really need it, nah. But I am going to like the fact that my nuts wont toast when using my laptop and I is very very portable.
 
dukebound85 said:
im willing to bet that the % of house holds who have iphones/ipods that have a windows box is way more than 51%
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Likely so, I never got an iPhone since I did not like the plan ATT offers and coverage(mainly coverage). According to Wiki, there is about 40 million iPhones sold so far. Wonder what the % is of Mac Users have iPhones, 99.8%. :)

I wonder if there is a poll of this sort:

Would Purchase iPhone w/ ATT:
Would Purchase iPhone w/ Other Service (Sprint/Verizon)
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
Not surprising at all..... when ninety-some percent of households own PCs.... Of course the iPad could create the halo effect for PC owners switching over to Macs.

The thing that surprises me more is that under 9% of iPad owners own iPhones. Considering the HUGE user base of iPhones* and the similarity between the two devices that there would be a lot more overlap. 63% own Macs and only 8.5% own iPhones??? I would think the iPhone's would be around 25-50%.


*I have no figures comparing iphone and mac american user base, but I would imagine they are pretty close. I mean over 50 million iphones sold world wide, probably nearly half of those in America. (25 mil) then take the American Mac user percentage (8%) of the 300mil Americans and you get 24 mil.
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there's no point if u have an iphone, you pretty much have an ipad
 
vw195 said:
Heh ok technically you got me, but you get the point
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The iPad and iPhone use the same OS, essentially. That is why this summer the iPhone will get iPhone 4.0 and this fall the iPad will get iPhone 4.0.

The iPad currently runs iPhone 3.2. It is all OSX. So I can understand not wanting a Mac to a point, but the iPad and iPhone use the same OS so I don't get that.
 
rtay said:
there's no point if u have an iphone, you pretty much have an ipad
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Right. And if you have a 13" TV, you pretty much have a 42" TV.

Right now, the iPad owners are early adopters, not the wait-and-see'ers. So I would expect they would have iPhones. Plus they can repurpose most of their apps, so their cost of ownership for the iPad is less than that for a non iPhone owner who would be purchasing their apps from scratch.
 
Chalk this thread up to who gives a fig. Seriously? Whether or not someone buys an iPad doesn't automatically say anything about them or there desire to be "apple" or "pc"

You know how many iPhone or iPod users there are with PCs?

Meaningless statistic, discussion, etc.
 
wrxdrunkie said:
I can easily see this being the case, I am a windows user, thats what I am really comfortable with and "faster" with, but I love OSX. I bought the first iphone, which made me want a mac laptop, got the mac laptop, then sold the laptop, then got the ipad, now I want a mac again.

I am a huge techy, so I love almost all of the apple products, their design is just best in class almost every time. But at the same time I love windows, I am able to put together serious workstations for a lot less money.

For me products like the iphone and ipad are gateway drugs to wanting more apple stuff, lol.
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VMware Fusion or Parallels are quite welcoming gateways into the world of Windows 7. No need to have dedicated equipment, unless that's what you want.
 
MiguelS said:
:rolleyes: or could be that we dont need to spend that $$ on something we really don't need. I have never had problems with windows, since most users just have PC's to simple word processing and surfing the net. Why spend 2x or 3x of that of a PC when simple will do.

I bought the iPad 3G because I thought it was a cool toy. Do I really need it, nah. But I am going to like the fact that my nuts wont toast when using my laptop and I is very very portable.
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lol i was kidding. anyway macs are a great price when you want a mic,speaker,camera,wifi,bluetooth ect ect all included in a great computer then its a good price. but for what you do you are right.
 
I've owned 5 Mac's and hated everyone of them :)

I've had an iPhone since the 3G and now we both have 3GS's. I would not get another phone right now but will wait and see how the Win7 phones are later on in the year.

I ordered the iPad because it fits well into our business both for us and our customers.

As far as Apple products. I have a Macbook 13" unibody. I got it for free and the reason I got it was that I had to use it for 6 mo and give me honest feedback.

Now that I've used one I do like the hardware. OSx is still not the greatest thing since sliced bread and its interaction with Windows servers is horrendous.

The laptop itself when I look at costs/pricing....$999...$350 more than a 13" business class Windows laptop from Dell. But the battery life is incredible...that'll cost you another $120 from Dell...so $230. The IPS/LED screen is perfect in sunlight...never seen a Dell IPS but it is so much better that I don't miss my old D620 which the Macbook replaced.

So by the time your all said and done I think a 13" Macbook in reality, point for point is maybe a $100 premium.

But Apple purposely and don't tell me for one second that the people at Apple are not smart enough to make this work, they purposely jack up the trackpad drivers in Windows.

I had to boot into Win7 to do some work in CS4 and it was impossible. For real work like that I need a higher res screen too...my old 1440x900 was enough but 1280x800 is too little.

The driver implementation is so poor though...if it came down to having to us this in Windows with the way the current drivers are, out the window it goes.

Windows pays the bills and that is why there market share is where it is.

So I looked at a Macbook Pro 15"...now they are smoking...$1,800!

While the 13.3 Unibody and the 27" iMac are great deals the rest of the line is wildly priced.

BTW the other 4 Mac's were for testing for customer software, they mostly sat and collected dust. The Macbook is the first one I've used consistently.

We'll probably get the wife a 27" iMac because of the screen res and size. Apple doesn't make a fast enough machine in my price range for a desktop.

Plus there is no real added value. The laptop gets me a good form factor and a long battery life...desktops are just overpriced but as I said for a solid LED/IPS screen the 27" is a small premium over a standard desktop with a similar 2560x1440 monitor if you can live with a moderately powered machine.

Apple has no real designs on increasing their market share in the desktop/laptop arena. I bet most of their revenue is from mobile devices. If they were truly interested in making a bigger market impact on Windows then they would adjust pricing and other factors.

For the moment they are making money other ways and to a shareholder they don't care if your selling buckets of ****, so long as your selling.
 
MacToddB said:
Right. And if you have a 13" TV, you pretty much have a 42" TV.
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yeah actually, you do. its just smaller. so exactly like the ipad and iphone, except somparing it as a 13 to 42 is a huge stretch. maybe a 13 to a 19 or 22
 
Given the ratio, I'd say that's a LOT of Mac owners buying iPads. With "only" 51% being PCs, I'd say that's kinda lopsided. You would think, given the PC's penetration compared to Macs, that it would be more like 75/25.

I think Macs are great end-user machines; I don't see them being good servers, simply due to cost. You want a kick-butt server? Linux is your answer. I have two servers, one Linux, one (cough) Windows. The Windows one is up and down like a yo-yo. It lost a drive on its RAID 1 config and won't stay up for more than a few hours at a time now, until we get the new drive in. Meanwhile, the Linux box has been up for 80 days straight.

Meanwhile, I'm still checking my order status and am hopeful my iPad 3G will ship SOON!!!!

Rob
 
Rob.G said:
Given the ratio, I'd say that's a LOT of Mac owners buying iPads. With "only" 51% being PCs, I'd say that's kinda lopsided. You would think, given the PC's penetration compared to Macs, that it would be more like 75/25.

I think Macs are great end-user machines; I don't see them being good servers, simply due to cost. You want a kick-butt server? Linux is your answer. I have two servers, one Linux, one (cough) Windows. The Windows one is up and down like a yo-yo. It lost a drive on its RAID 1 config and won't stay up for more than a few hours at a time now, until we get the new drive in. Meanwhile, the Linux box has been up for 80 days straight.

Meanwhile, I'm still checking my order status and am hopeful my iPad 3G will ship SOON!!!!

Rob
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Um and how is a bad drive Windows fault?

I love posts like these. If your having a problem keeping the server up then maybe you have other hardware related problems? How do you know you do not have a different problem totally unrelated to Windows? Maybe the other drive has corrupted data because you didn't pay attention to the logs showing the first drive was failing?

Broad brush and not nearly enough answers.

If Windows servers were the yo-yo's you speak of they would not be running in nearly every single business around the world. While Linux servers are decreasing in usage.

Open source is nice until something breaks and there are 10,000 questions and no answers. Most people try to get a long with an open source server instead of buying Red Hat or Novell then find it comes back to bite them when the need service.
 
What I don't understand (though it has been slowly but steadily changing) is how Windows users can continue to buy all these Apple peripheral products, ostensibly because they see them as best in class, and yet still cling to their PC boxes for dear life.

You bought an iPod because it was clearly the best mp3 player. You bought an iPhone because it was clearly the best smart phone. You're buying iPads because they're game changing netbook/tablets. But you can't bring yourself to switch to a Mac? You can't make that leap of faith, even though the iPod and iPhone have utterly changed the way you listen to music and use a phone? You don't think a Mac will do the same for your computing?

Baffling. Baffling I say.

mcdj
PC user 1998-2005
 
mcdj said:
What I don't understand (though it has been slowly but steadily changing) is how Windows users can continue to buy all these Apple peripheral products, ostensibly because they see them as best in class, and yet still cling to their PC boxes for dear life.

You bought an iPod because it was clearly the best mp3 player. You bought an iPhone because it was clearly the best smart phone. You're buying iPads because they're game changing netbook/tablets. But you can't bring yourself to switch to a Mac? You can't make that leap of faith, even though the iPod and iPhone have utterly changed the way you listen to music and use a phone? You don't think a Mac will do the same for your computing?
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On the contrary, I think the "halo effect" from those Apple products you mentioned has had a marked effect on people switching from PC to Mac over the last few years, especially when you throw the Winblows Vista debacle into the mix.
 
mcdj said:
You bought an iPod because it was clearly the best mp3 player. You bought an iPhone because it was clearly the best smart phone. You're buying iPads because they're game changing netbook/tablets. But you can't bring yourself to switch to a Mac? You can't make that leap of faith, even though the iPod and iPhone have utterly changed the way you listen to music and use a phone? You don't think a Mac will do the same for your computing?
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No, I don't. I've used Macs before and I'm just not really that impressed, probably because I'm a gamer and I like to build my own systems.

I do love Apple's mobile products though (iPod, iPad, etc.), but I would never buy a desktop from Apple.
 
mcdj said:
You bought an iPod because it was clearly the best mp3 player. You bought an iPhone because it was clearly the best smart phone. You're buying iPads because they're game changing netbook/tablets. But you can't bring yourself to switch to a Mac? You can't make that leap of faith, even though the iPod and iPhone have utterly changed the way you listen to music and use a phone? You don't think a Mac will do the same for your computing?
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The ipod could play their existing MP3 music. The iPhone could call their contacts and receive calls from their contacts. Out of the box, a Mac cannot run their existing programs. Apple could bundle Windows (licensed) with a Mac using Boot Camp preinstalled ready to run, and if priced aggressively, try to market a Mac PC... But they wouldn't.

So, I have a $200 Asus eee netbook for rare instances, running Windows 7.

PC user 1998-2005
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Mac user, 1984 - 1988, and 2006 - present
Sun user, 1985 - 2007 (and Sun employee, 1988 - 1993)
PC user, 1982 - present
Apple ][ user 1980 - 1984
Plus apple newton, motorola Marco, dec vax, trs-80 color computer, vic20, atari 400/800, commodore 64, amiga, coleco adam, ti99/4a, Sinclair zx80...

The point is... You should know how to work with all the tools available so you can use the right one for the job... (written from my iPad, in bed)
 
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