I guess they will need to launch a new line of macbooks..
Macbook Poor for those that dont qualify for the pro
The base model comes with 6GB ram
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I guess they will need to launch a new line of macbooks..
Macbook Poor for those that dont qualify for the pro
The base model comes with 6GB ram
Everyone happy now?!
Well, Apple is working hard to expand their bad image, not my fault.
While I think some Apple products are poor value for money, I think people on MacRumors get angry about Apple products that are not aimed at them specifically.I hope Apple releases a configuration with 4 GB of RAM just out of spite. Watch people whine and cry like little girls, and watch Apple still be the most profitable company in the history of human existence
The M1 and M2 13" MacBook Pro were universally called out on here for poor value for money (true in my opinion), however that model was Apple's second best selling laptop (and highly profitable), exclusively off the back of corporate buyers who: want a base model laptop that is (1) a MacBook Pro, and (2) well under $2000.
It is pointless for people on here to get angry as to why a MBP with 8GB RAM exists. It exists because it is aimed at a particular profitable market. It is not aimed at most people on here.
Same way as price for designer handbags, designer purses and designer watches are justified. It a premium for a high quality boutique item with a fancy label. You are either willing to pay extra or you shop somewhere else.
Whether it is “worth it” is all in the eye of the beholder. If enough people decide it’s not worth the price and stop buying it then it will stop being offered.
It's just LPDDR5 memory, you can find LPDDR5 (or even the newer LPDDR5X) in every phone, tablet, competing laptops with soldered RAM etc.
It's not unique or special, it's an industry standard.
You can buy 1000 8 GB LPDDR5-6400 chips for $13.50 a piece. Imagine what Apple is paying when buying millions of them...
It’s odd because they can buy configs with more RAM. It’s not like they don’t exist. It reminds me of people who complained about the base model iPhone having low storage capacity. Well, buy more then.
It’s hilarious seeing people argue over the definition of “Pro” as well. A person who just needs to read corporate email is a Professional, ergo any laptop they use can be reasonably described as “Pro”
What do expect to find here in the forum?So then why are you here?
Just people holding their hands jumping in a circle singing about how they love Apple and their overpriced 8GB laptop, or things like **** and get my money?
What a wonderful bubble…
8GB is not enough even for "non pro" usage.
2020 i5 Air, 8GB of RAM, Microsoft Edge with 3 tabs (it doesn't really change with Safari, if any, Safari is more CPU intensive than Edge in rendering sites like Canva and YouTube), Apple Music, Keynote working of a 30MB file and macOS' color picker: 6.6 GB + 3.5 swap.
And yes, the slowdowns when launching apps and using them (even scrolling a playlist in Apple Music is a bit laggy, it shouldn't be) are noticeable.
2020 i5 Air, 8GB of RAM, Microsoft Edge with 3 tabs (it doesn't really change with Safari, if any, Safari is more CPU intensive than Edge in rendering sites like Canva and YouTube), Apple Music, Keynote working of a 30MB file and macOS' color picker: 6.6 GB + 3.5 swap.
And yes, the slowdowns when launching apps and using them (even scrolling a playlist in Apple Music is a bit laggy, it shouldn't be) are noticeable.
I see we've got a bunch of pricing and supply chain experts here.
And bunch James Camerons, itching to export their next film in 8k, if it were not for that that pesky $200 upgrade cost.
Here's an outlandish prediction: Apple sells a ton of these and they work just fine for people.
And bunch James Camerons, itching to export their next film in 8k, if it were not for that that pesky $200 upgrade cost.
Here's an outlandish prediction: Apple sells a ton of these and they work just fine for people.
Disagree. I hope articles like this one will shame Apple into stopping to sell $1600 "Pro" computers with 8GB.
That was also my opinion at the time, but my coworker with minimal demands thought her light, spiffy v1 MBA was just fine. She did not really perceive the slowness that I did when I set things up on her MBA.
I wouldn't say that it's meaningless. Customers speak with their wallets and we need to send a loud and clear message to Apple that for many of us...this is unacceptable. The problem is that they may never get that message if people keep buying these underpowered machines. By the time the M4 line releases, hopefully 16/512 will be the minimum.
Not at all. Display, speakers, etc. are better with the MBP. Only price and weight are higher.
There are also plenty of people with interest in Apple products who does not swallow everything they throw to the market.
I think you should be the person to define the meaning of "pro" and the specs needed for that label. Why dont you write a letter to the FTC proposing that, and maybe they will make it official so that the pros don't get swindled.
You actually watch those clickbait things?
Funny, I have a 2015 i5 11" MacBook Air, 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD that handles AutoCAD 2018 for Mac like a champ. Already retired it as a mail backup device, since I work projects on a newer M1 8GB Air.
Binning is typically done when you have a bad CPU or GPU core; or, on the other end, to pick out chips that can run at unusually high clocks. I've never heard of binning for max RAM caapcity. Do you have any sources to support this?
I might be crazy, but I thought more options were good. Also, I'm pretty sure that anyone who needs to export from Lightroom, or export from Final Cut will have the sense to buy more RAM or, more likely, a different chip that bottoms out with more RAM. This machine is not for those people. This machine is for a totally different demographic.
This machine is for people who:
This machine is for people who:
- Want a MacBook Air with better speakers and display.
- Business owners who don't want to give their employees a MacBook Air because it isn't pro enough, even though the air would be fine.
- People who would be OK with a MacBook Air but want their laptop to say MacBook Pro.
Corporate won't buy Air because they wisely perceive that the better displays, better speakers and added performance space of MBPs are smarter purchases.