Well, height of heatsink matters - and 'someone' mentioned: #514completed successful upgrade:
Blade + HDD removed
Device: Mid 2017 - 18.3 - MNED2ZE/A (3.8 Ghz i5)
Blade upgrade: 128 GB Blade -> 2 TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe (has the latest firmware out of the box) + heat sink.
HDD upgrade: 2 TB SATA HDD -> removed
Speed test: 2723 MB/s read, 2913 MB/s write
Adapter: Sintech ST-NGFF2013C (has tape on out of the box)
Location: Estonia
Temperature sensor: did not install
Issues after fresh OS install: no issues
Other issues i encountered to: i didn't see anyone mentioning that sandwiching NVMe between the adapter and heatsink, makes it really thick... leaving a pictures as reference (can't screw motherboard to the case cause that sandwich is against the case and pushing the motherboard).
thank you very much! don't know how i missed that! i guess redo needs to be scheduled.
I did with success. Try to get a 3mm heatsink - worth it.thank you very much! don't know how i missed that! i guess redo needs to be scheduled.
i was searching yesterday for new candidates and also found that many ppl say that EVO 970 is idleing at 55-60. it seems that this line really is hotter. found this response from samsung. i guess i'll just remove the heatsink, that i have right now and leave disk without.I did with success. Try to get a 3mm heatsink - worth it.
'advanced thermal control solution' means - throttling.i was searching yesterday for new candidates and also found that many ppl say that EVO 970 is idleing at 55-60. it seems that this line really is hotter. found this response from samsung. i guess i'll just remove the heatsink, that i have right now and leave disk without.
Yup, on the older iMacs, such as the 2013, the NVME upgrade won't give you NVME speeds you get from later iMacs. Here are my results upgrading my 2013 iMac (BlackMagic disk test).HI - newbie alert ?
Basically I am planning on upgrading the HDD on a Late 2013 27" iMac (1TB HDD model).
I'm fairly confident with tech repairs and upgrades and not too scarred off by the videos on Youtube etc.
The main install upgrades are as follows:
Option 1. 1TB NVMe blade (remove HDD)
Option 2. 1TB SATA SSD (remove HDD)
Option 3. 256GB or 512GB NVMe blade and 1TB SATA SSD (remove HDD)
Option 4. Fusion Drive e.g installing a 256GB or 512GB NVMe blade and leaving the existing 1TB HD in / or swap out HDD with a SATA SSD
I am doing this upgrade for a freind who would be using the mac for personal music production mostly so 1TB should be ample, but I am unsure if a blade NVMe would be worth the tear down... Speeds look mixed from members on here in the same situation. NVMe blades look to be aprox 150-200MB/s gain on read and writes over using a SATA SSD alone, so maybe not worth the while and effort for the small speed difference?
I have also read on some threads about bottlenecks happening due to the older PCIe version on the late 2013 model... again if this is the case then am I better off just focussing on updating the SATA HDD with a SATA SSD...
can anyone help me make my mind up please?
In the near future (after buying the necesarry kit for this upgrade) I plan to upgrade the 32gb part of my 1TB Fusion Drive in my own Late 2015 5K iMac. I use a lot of cloud based storage as I am between my workplace and home so would guess that taking the HDD part out completely might be a good idea and put my money into a bigger faster NVMe due to the PCIe port being more capable than the late 2013... Again any help with the parts and descission making process would be really appreciated please?
These are the drives I have been looking at:
Crucial 1TB P1 M2 NVMe Blade: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cr...000-mbs-3d-nand-nvme-pcie-m2-for-ps76-3652235
Crucila 1TB MX500 SATA SSD: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/crucial-mx500-1-tb-to-560-mbs-3652070
Thank you for a very interesting thread. I've read all 22 pages and I have a newbie-question:
I plan to upgrade my iMac 27" 13,2 (late 2012) from 1Tb HDD to a SATA SSD (Samsung Evo 870 500Gb) only and leave the NVME "Blade"-slot empty as it always have been. What are the benefits of the OWC heat sensor, since as I can understand from several posts I don't need it. If I install it anyhow, what problems could that give me?
Sorry to bother you but I could not really find a direct answer to this. Thanks in advance!
Thank you for an ultra fast answer! I came to think of how to install my iOS on the new SSD when I have it in place... should I beforehand create an USB-"boot-stick" with my iOS (Catalina 10.15.7) and plug it in? Other options? On beforehand, I'm sorry for this newbie question.You don’t need it as the iMac can read the SSD temperature directly. It really makes no sense to install it, you’ll be spending money on thing that add nothing.
Best,
Magnus
You can either do that or use Internet Recovery ('other macOS installation options':Thank you for an ultra fast answer! I came to think of how to install my iOS on the new SSD when I have it in place... should I beforehand create an USB-"boot-stick" with my iOS (Catalina 10.15.7) and plug it in? Other options? On beforehand, I'm sorry for this newbie question.
You will need to format the NVMe drive, you can do this either from the Samsung Evo as internal drive or from a bootstick.Hello everyone,!! thank you all for the wonderful information, I've read carefully the 22 pages.
I recently purchased an immaculate Late 2015, 27", 1Tb fusion iMac (17,1), which I wish to turn into a fast machine.
My firmware is 429.80.1.0.0.
I already purchased the Sintech long adapter (which I will protect with Kapton tape), an EVO 860 to replace the SATA HDD, and am still undecided whether to get the 970 EVO PLUS, or the WD Black 750.
My plan was to clone my current system (only 100Gb) onto the EVO860 vía CCC (which I did, and works perfectly booting from external enclosure), instal such disk and the NMVe internally, and from there clone the OS onto the blade.
But I'm not sure that this would work, I'm worried that the cloned SSD might not be recognized. And can't find any information about it.
Do you guys recommend this procedure? Did anyone tried it? Would it be safer to do it from an bootable USB?
Thank you very much for your help and any other advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you! Yes, that's understood.You will need to format the NVMe drive, you can do this either from the Samsung Evo as internal drive or from a bootstick.
Take good note of this #514 - the WD with heatsink might be too thick.[...]
Besides, do you you notice anything else I could be missing?
Good point.Take good note of this #514 - the WD with heatsink might be too thick.
There is a reason they put the 3mm heatsink on top... ;-)Good point.
In this video, at around 9:30, he shows that a 14,4 mm heatsink sandwich does actually work.
The WD with heatsink is 8.1mm thick. Plus the adaptor, I think it should work?
Haha You're absolutely right! Thanks manThere is a reason they put the 3mm heatsink on top... ;-)