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robgendreau

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This is only the initial step into a process. IMO, Skylum wants to set up a DAM system to go with their editing software. It is not anywhere near a full DAM like Lr, etc. I downloaded it and pointed to my Photos album but I do not intend on using it for my DAM but only as a plug in for now like I have done before. There is a lot more functionality that Skylum needs to develop and add and I believe it is their goal to do just that. I think they want to create a non-subscription alternative to Adobe and compete with other non-subscription photography software. For now, it is really only for those who have not been using a DAM-like system or just beginning to organize their photos. Time will tell, so I will wait and watch.

Yeah, I could definitely see using it with other more capable organizers. That's why I bought Macphun/Skylum products in the first place. Indeed, I think they and DxO were the first to have a way to send RAW from Lr to their products instead of having to generate a TIFF, which meant you could use a non-Adobe raw conversion.

I don't see how anyone could use it to find photos. I don't think you can even search by filename. DxO developed a bare bones photo browser for their app, even though many use it as an extension or plugin. But it makes ever so much more sense, even within it's limited capabilities. It has search, filtering, ability to group together projects, virtual copies, and (duh) things like filenames on the thumbnails. Probably well worth the extra $$ if one wanted a more mature piece of software to use instead of the Adobe products.
 

comptr

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How do we get this if we the 2018 version via the App Store?
Since I had purchased Luminar 2018 through the Mac App Store and thus receive all updates through there, I have not yet gotten Luminar 3. Presumably it will show up soon.... I'm not in any great hurry for it, as I am a bit leery of just how it will work out and I do not want to have the program taking control of all my images, so will be selective, especially in the beginning.
You need to go to skylum.com and create an account and register your copy of Luminar 2018 and once it's registered and shows up in your account, you can see a link to download Luminiar 3 and see the Product Keys.
 

Clix Pix

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You need to go to skylum.com and create an account and register your copy of Luminar 2018 and once it's registered and shows up in your account, you can see a link to download Luminiar 3 and see the Product Keys.

Thank you for this information! So even though I already am an owner of Luminar 2018 through the Mac App Store there is no mechanism in place for automatically updating to the new version? Interesting.....
 

OreoCookie

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I received an email from Skylum with a download link and my license key. Unfortunately, something seems to be wrong with the installer, it gets stuck at 100 %, so I wasn't able to try it out last night.
 

Clix Pix

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Now I am wishing I'd just ordered Luminar 2018 directly from Skylum in the first place rather than going through Mac App Store. I have signed up with an account, which oddly enough, I did not have even though I own two other MacPhun software programs, and have duly sent them a screenshot of my proof of ownership of Luminar 2018, which I retrieved from the Mac App Store. No idea how long it will take before this is all checked out but if it is more than a day or so I'll just say the heck with it and purchase Luminar 3 directly from Skylum and that will be that. Or I may hold off a while until the initial rush is through and maybe even after they've issued a software update or two....
 

Elbert C

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I received an email from Skylum with a download link and my license key. Unfortunately, something seems to be wrong with the installer, it gets stuck at 100 %, so I wasn't able to try it out last night.
You need to run the installer from an admin account. I wish Skylum had stated that bit of info before I tried installing it from my standard account twice.
 

OreoCookie

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You need to run the installer from an admin account. I wish Skylum had stated that bit of info before I tried installing it from my standard account twice.
Even though I am asked for an admin password? That is really annoying. I wonder whether this is connected to them going cross platform.

Thanks, though.
 

Elbert C

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Even though I am asked for an admin password? That is really annoying. I wonder whether this is connected to them going cross platform.

Thanks, though.

It was even more annoying when I didn't even get an admin password prompt the both times I tried installing it from my standard account.
 

Macowner2.0

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For me, Luminar 3 remains a full-featured photo editor designed for photographers of all skill levels. A new Library feature makes it easier to organize, browse, rate, group, and simply enjoy your photos, while over 100 editing features, plus a suite of fast AI-powered technologies under the hood, will make any photo stand out.

The AI-powered photo editor does a dozen manual adjustments in a few seconds. AI manages exposure, highlights and shadows, contrast, color balance, and much more. You get a slider to control the effect's intensity and that's all you need to do.

Actually, you can discuss the pros and cons with the team at producthunt.com

Join the discussion just right now. Ask questions, leave your feedback and rate Luminar 3.

Your honest feedback is the best gift the developers can wish for Christmas.

Warm wishes for a beautiful holiday!
 

FredT2

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For me, Luminar 3 remains a full-featured photo editor designed for photographers of all skill levels. A new Library feature makes it easier to organize, browse, rate, group, and simply enjoy your photos, while over 100 editing features, plus a suite of fast AI-powered technologies under the hood, will make any photo stand out.

The AI-powered photo editor does a dozen manual adjustments in a few seconds. AI manages exposure, highlights and shadows, contrast, color balance, and much more. You get a slider to control the effect's intensity and that's all you need to do.

Actually, you can discuss the pros and cons with the team at producthunt.com

Join the discussion just right now. Ask questions, leave your feedback and rate Luminar 3.

Your honest feedback is the best gift the developers can wish for Christmas.

Warm wishes for a beautiful holiday!
Nice advert. My take is: if you like the way the program works for editing, then it is certainly very capable in that regard. But I still don't think that it matches Lightroom as an editor, and possibly not On1 Photo Raw. And as for the so called library feature, I think it is a complete joke, and the fact that it took Luminar more than a year to reach this point removed any faith I had the the company could deliver a serious Lightroom alternative.
 
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rickeames

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This was supposed to be released at the beginning of 2018. What in the world have they been doing all year to have only released it in this state? I have to say I was hoping for something a bit more Aperture-like.
 

OreoCookie

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Who knows what happened internally, but perhaps they realized they bit off more than they can chew. Add in the complication of having to work on Mac and Windows (which I find always leads to a worse product, but hey, what can you do when you lack alternatives). Lastly, there was management of expectations: when you claim you will release a DAM, people will naturally have expectations that are derived from its competition (and Skylum framed it as a competitor to Lightroom).

But certainly, I am quite underwhelmed that they did not make Luminar into a proper tool to organize your photos. I don't mind that it may be less powerful than some of the alternatives, if it offered the right balance of power and ease of use.
 

MCAsan

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Jul 9, 2012
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The new roadmap was originally was posted as being from January-July 2019 is now January-December 2019. To me this multi-year Luminar DAM topic at Macphun/Skylum is one large cluster @#$% by their management. I am glad I have deleted all their software.
 

robgendreau

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I was reading a comment on Luminar 3 by a software developer over on DPR and he noted that the saving system—using those .states files—had the look of something cobbled together without much planning. And because it doesn't read anything it of course can't search anything. But that seems kinda odd, given that almost every other image product I've every tried can do so. Even the Finder. Aside from albums (and not smart ones, at that) the Finder is actually a better way to organize for Luminar 3. And at least you can rename files and search by say keyword or title.
 

stillcrazyman

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I've tried to like the new Luminar 3.
If it was stable and didn't crash, I might be able to get accustomed to how it's confusing interface works.

I've used Luminar 2018 quite a lot and it is a useful photo editor. No real complaints on that.
Luminar 3 is not ready for prime time. The library interface is not functional or easy to navigate.
At this point, I'm not going to use it. If I need to process an image in Luminar it will be in the previous version.

I'm just glad I didn't pay for this.
 

harriska2

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I purchased Luminar 3 yesterday because the filters worked for my needs. I’m trying to get the DAM out of my way but the way it’s designed, it links to your file system and I don’t like the possibility of corrupting them. In addition, even if I import a file outside the folder I assigned for its use, it deletes my files when I try to use it for quick editing. I prefer to use Photos linked to my folders. The filters work for my novice needs. Everything else in it does not. I was going to use it the crop and save out picures from my scanned files, straighten, and export to JPG but it doesn’t do that well at all.
 

MCAsan

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Only the brave should try to use the current Luminar 3 as a standalone. As a plugin to apps like Lr, Ps...etc. should be OK.
 

mpfuchs

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After reading all the reviews online, I didn't even download Luminar 3 after my purchase.
I'm now on a 7 day trial of the Adobe Photography Plan, and I'll likely cough up the money for the subscription.

Still feels unreal to me to type that, but I realized there isn't any real competition to Lightroom at this point.
Maybe next year...
 

harriska2

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Only the brave should try to use the current Luminar 3 as a standalone. As a plugin to apps like Lr, Ps...etc. should be OK.
I don't know why it tries to take over my files and folders. When I installed the trial version, I pointed it at my folder with pictures. That might have been a huge mistake. I uninstalled using AppCleaner, deleted a bunch of extra files, kept the filters folder and one extra folder with desktop settings (because they recommend that), and it STILL seemed to find my pictures folder and globbed onto it. I assigned it a folder with only 1 picture in it. Now if I open a file to create exports, it keeps it in its database. If I want to delete those files to keep it from being a DAM, it deletes the files inside the folders that it isn't supposed to know about. Ugh. So I have to copy any file to its own directory, edit, export, then delete. Plus, if you use the crop tool, good luck. Once you crop a picture, or if you are in the middle of cropping, you can't zoom in to see what you are cropping. In addition, they have some horrible default crop setting that you can't change. If they just kept it simple I would be happy. Their DAM is horrible. Really horrible. But their filters are great. Their exports are super easy. And their shortcuts keys are wonderful. You can't make your own shortcut keys like in Affinity, but for me just the letter C for crop is super cool. I wish I could get on their forum but my user/password doesn't seem to work and they can't seem to fix it.
 

Clix Pix

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I am sticking with Luminar 2018 for the time being. It does what I need and I am not eager to mess up my system. I registered an account at Skylum, sent a copy of my original purchase of 2018 through the Mac App Store to Skylum and it is now listed with my other Skylum products. However, no link is provided for Luminar 3 and I never received an email with such a link, either. About that time I decided to hold off, anyway, seeing that there were so many potentially negative issues coming up in user comments and reviews. I do NOT want Luminar 3 taking over my photo files, and somewhere I saw a video that shows how to avoid that but you have to do it in the very beginning while going through the initial setup process. It is disappointing because I had hoped that this would be a nice, easy, seamless process and a good way to begin using a DAM. I agree about the filters -- they are great and overall I enjoy using Luminar 2018 and the results are usually pleasing to me.

ETA: Here is the video I mentioned:

 
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harriska2

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I am sticking with Luminar 2018 for the time being. It does what I need and I am not eager to mess up my system. I registered an account at Skylum, sent a copy of my original purchase of 2018 through the Mac App Store to Skylum and it is now listed with my other Skylum products. However, no link is provided for Luminar 3 and I never received an email with such a link, either. About that time I decided to hold off, anyway, seeing that there were so many potentially negative issues coming up in user comments and reviews. I do NOT want Luminar 3 taking over my photo files, and somewhere I saw a video that shows how to avoid that but you have to do it in the very beginning while going through the initial setup process. It is disappointing because I had hoped that this would be a nice, easy, seamless process and a good way to begin using a DAM. I agree about the filters -- they are great and overall I enjoy using Luminar 2018 and the results are usually pleasing to me.

ETA: Here is the video I mentioned:

Thanks for the video. Now I know where to delete the cache, too. I’m making my peace with Luminar 3 and it is working now for my needs - which are not standard by any means. I can now use the filters and other editing features in Luminar 3 and then use Photos for DAM with referencing. I’ve never used a DAM before and now I really love it - assuming Photos is considered a DAM.
 

v3rlon

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Luminar3: the edit plugin for much more powerful DAMs - like Finder.

With what they released, I would have been happier with better integration with Photos and other systems (how about Aurora? On1 added HDR stacking). I am not sure how they could promote a DAM for a year and a half and then release this.
 

MCAsan

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Jul 9, 2012
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Atlanta
Alex, Skylum CEO, sent out an apology letter yesterday. He had planned to release a new dot release of Luminar this week. They found 4 major problems and have fixed 3 of them. He wants the 4th one fixed before the release. He said the release should happen by end of next week (22nd?).

At least now Skylum management is communicating something. That has not always been the case in the past.
 
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