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Adobe Audition Coming to Mac OS X?

Anuba said:
Sad but true. When I see all these lemmings joining the Two Minute Hate sessions against Adobe, I can't help but replay images in my head of furious muslims throwing copies of Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses into book burning pyres. I'm guessing roughly 0.0003% of them actually made an attempt to read it, the rest are just blindly following whoever started screaming first.
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So glad to see people with logic!

People are so blinded by fanboy-ism that it's taking over their lives.

It's funny, though, how Apple is the mastermind behind this phenomenon. I like Apple and Adobe. They both provide great things to the common man and the professionals.

The small squabble between them is more about market share more than anything else. There is always a motive behind any company, whether Apple or Adobe.

Honestly, there would be millions of people out of jobs if Adobe went under. Apple is just a platform--There's always the PC side.
 
SDAVE said:
So glad to see people with logic!

People are so blinded by fanboy-ism that it's taking over their lives.

It's funny, though, how Apple is the mastermind behind this phenomenon. I like Apple and Adobe. They both provide great things to the common man and the professionals.
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Yup.

Hating on Adobe because one doesn't like Flash ads shows poor understanding on so many levels it's laughable.

- Adobe is not Flash, and Flash is not Adobe. Flash represents 7% of their business. They'll get by with or without it.

- Flash Professional CS is not the Flash Player. Adobe doesn't make money on the Flash Player, it only costs them tons of bandwidth. Should Flash one day be abandoned in favor of Canvas, it's going to be Adobe producing the tools that allow people to create Canvas stuff, and probably in Flash Professional.

- Adobe didn't create Flash, Macromedia did. Adobe has owned it for 4 years, Macromedia had it for 10 years before that. They acquired Macromedia mostly out of fear that Microsoft would beat them to it and make sure that Adobe goes the way of Netscape. Adobe advocated the open file format SVG and tried to tackle Flash with their own product LiveMotion, but consumers decided that the closed SWF format was the way to go. Now the same consumers want Flash to go away because it's proprietary. Umm... OK.

- If it weren't for Adobe, you'd all be on Windows and we would be talking about Apple in past tense like we talk about Atari and Commodore. Why, because the only thing that kept Apple alive through the dark mid 90's was the creative professionals who make a living using Adobe's products. Apple was 90 days away from bankruptcy in 1997. Take Photoshop and Illustrator out of the equation, and you'd have 0 days.
 
Indeed.

And Final Cut Pro was also developed by Macromedia, which Apple bought. They also developed Flash, as you stated.

Apple needs to cater the pro community more. What the hell is QuickTime X?? Trimming my corner pixels and having no preferences or pro features like QT7.
 
SDAVE said:
Indeed.

And Final Cut Pro was also developed by Macromedia, which Apple bought. They also developed Flash, as you stated.

Apple needs to cater the pro community more. What the hell is QuickTime X?? Trimming my corner pixels and having no preferences or pro features like QT7.
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The "Pro" moniker that Apple likes to slap on everything is no longer short for "professional", it stands for "prosumer". Glossy screens... omission of ports and configuration options... mumblings about making Final Cut Pro more consumer friendly... no Mac Pro updates for ages... I suppose any day now they'll rename Logic to "GarageBand Pro".

As for QT X... I can't say I don't prefer the new design over the old brushed aluminum UI. I like that part. But did they really have to take out everything else? Can we at least have a "float on top" option? No?
 
SDAVE said:
Professionals don't use Motion.
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If you've seen the promos on CNN telling you what's on Larry King that night, that's a Motion project.

I've used Motion in some projects, mostly to augment After Effects or to provide an FCP editor support.

So, I must not be a professional.
 
Anuba said:
Having said that, I lost interest when it was announced that Steinberg WaveLab 7 would be coming to Mac this year. WL is one of the main reasons why I have to fire up BootCamp daily.
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WaveLab is another great editor, and I'm glad that it's getting a Mac version too.
 
That would be quite tempting to get Audition if it made it's way over to OSX. I quite miss it from my Windows days.

I like Adobe products, I just hate their licensing, activation, and customer service issues.

And Audition in some form on the iPad with some sort of dock-connecting interface would be amazing. I'd love 2 track at a time 24/96 capability.
 
Scottgfx said:
If you've seen the promos on CNN telling you what's on Larry King that night, that's a Motion project.

I've used Motion in some projects, mostly to augment After Effects or to provide an FCP editor support.

So, I must not be a professional.
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CNN is a joke. Doesn't matter which channel it airs. It's terrible stuff.

Show me your reel and I'll tell you if you're good or not.

If you are comparing Motion to AE, you must be insane. Motion is for kiddies.
 
valvehead said:
WaveLab is another great editor, and I'm glad that it's getting a Mac version too.
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Yeah, I never thought WL for Mac would materialize. Unlike Steinberg's other products, Wavelab is a one man show run by a French guy named Philippe Goutier. WL is his mission in life and he's been designing and developing it on his own for 15 years. When users suggest features he likes, you often see them appear in a matter of weeks. This led me to believe he's probably developing in Delphi, like many audio software developers do. It's great for getting things done fast with little manpower, but all those Delphi apps (such as "FL Studio") are helplessly Windows-only, so I never thought I'd live to see a Wavelab for Mac.
 
Aniday said:
Uuughh, Why? Audition sucks.

If you're going to edit audio on a Mac, use Logic or even Pro Tools.
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Oh my... Bad advice about Logic at least.. I am not alone in saying that Logic's audio editing is a mess - and I own Logic 9 and work with it every day.

ProTools of course is good if that's what you feel comfortable using, although why cow tow to Digidesign's mandate that for some essential features (PDC comes to mind), ProTools HD be the only option..? Also, ProTools won't run without Avid hardware..

How could Adobe bringing Audition to Mac be a bad thing? I've never used it, although I've seen people working with it, and have heard things done with it... It's just as legitimate as anything else out there - and if it's worse than Logic for audio editing - well, that would have to be really terrible software...

Aside from all this, DP is the unsung hero of DAWs (for me at least)...
 
SE30 said:
Oh my... Bad advice about Logic at least.. I am not alone in saying that Logic's audio editing is a mess - and I own Logic 9 and work with it every day.

ProTools of course is good if that's what you feel comfortable using, although why cow tow to Digidesign's mandate that for some essential features (PDC comes to mind), ProTools HD be the only option..? Also, ProTools won't run without Avid hardware..

How could Adobe bringing Audition to Mac be a bad thing? I've never used it, although I've seen people working with it, and have heard things done with it... It's just as legitimate as anything else out there - and if it's worse than Logic for audio editing - well, that would have to be really terrible software...

Aside from all this, DP is the unsung hero of DAWs (for me at least)...
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I have been using Logic since 4 and still love it. Many people may not like it but I find that it does exactly what I need it to do. To each his own...
 
I'm a radio journalist and this just made my day.

Those who are talking about Audition in comparison to Logic and Pro Tools are missing the main use of Audition. It's a very, very good wave editor not aimed at being a sequencer or DAW like the other two.
 
SDAVE said:
You're only thinking about yourself. There are large studios that rely on Adobe workflows and you want to take that away from them?

I wasn't debating if Soundtrack Pro is usable or not, it's just a tool. I use it too, but I would prefer to use Audition. It has more professional features and it's a better GUI. Have you ever touched it???

I was just stating how the other person(s) were downplaying Audition just because it was from Adobe. I find that funny. Thats like protesting cars from Honda, even though it's the competition to Toyota. Get my drift?
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YAWN!!!! cannot even be bothered to respond to you....where is that IGNORE BUTTON!
 
SDAVE said:
Hehe, very funny. You make lower thirds for your church? :D

Child, I work for one of the biggest motion graphic firms in the world, which I will not talk about here.

Graphic design is NOT editing. Motion design is NOT editing.

It's bosses like yours that cannot comprehend the institution that is motion design.

You don't know how many people use AE, Illustrator & InDesign? That's because you make lower thirds for your church.
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If you can only resort to insults and bragging to put your point over! I prefer not to respond to you, people like yourself really bore me sorry.
 
Anuba said:
I don't see why it wouldn't be coming to Mac, seeing as Soundbooth has already been ported.

Having said that, I lost interest when it was announced that Steinberg WaveLab 7 would be coming to Mac this year. WL is one of the main reasons why I have to fire up BootCamp daily.


Err... it's CoolEdit from Syntrillium, which was purchased by Adobe a few years ago. Just like Macromedia was. This is a testament to the brainwashing powers of Steve... all he has to do is badmouth a company that used to be best buddies with Apple the day before, and all his little lemmings immediately join the choir. I guess if Adobe bought out Final Cut Studio and Logic tomorrow and released them as-is only with an Adobe logo on the About screen, FC and Logic would suddenly be awful products...? Please... make up your own mind about things, don't let Steve do it for you.
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Macromedia Flash could've become a great animation software. Adobe turned it into a web development tool for those too lazy to learn real web development. Now the number of good animation apps is disappointing.
 
SE30 said:
Oh my... Bad advice about Logic at least.. I am not alone in saying that Logic's audio editing is a mess - and I own Logic 9 and work with it every day.

ProTools of course is good if that's what you feel comfortable using, although why cow tow to Digidesign's mandate that for some essential features (PDC comes to mind), ProTools HD be the only option..? Also, ProTools won't run without Avid hardware..

How could Adobe bringing Audition to Mac be a bad thing? I've never used it, although I've seen people working with it, and have heard things done with it... It's just as legitimate as anything else out there - and if it's worse than Logic for audio editing - well, that would have to be really terrible software...

Aside from all this, DP is the unsung hero of DAWs (for me at least)...
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...and speaking of Avid, Their Media Composer is know for screwing up soundflower on 10.6 + and never being up to date fussy app.
 
Man-Droid said:
I have been using Logic since 4 and still love it. Many people may not like it but I find that it does exactly what I need it to do. To each his own...
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I started using Logic around Version 4 as well.

Actually, for certain things, I love Logic - just not audio editing, particularly...
 
I WAS the one said:
LOL, the worst comment ever!
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GB is a fun program for what it is, but it's not in the realm of Logic, Audition, PT, etc.

Then again Audition and Logic aren't exactly comparable though either. However, they've added quite a few "DAW-like" features over the years, such as Rewire, ASIO, DirectX and VST/VSTi support. I could certainly use it myself as a sole app for recording music.
 
peterdevries said:
I wish Apple would make a competing product to Photoshop. It's the one missing Pro-Tools application where I'm sure Apple would be able to produce a great competing product (and at a much much lower price point I hope).
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Apple can keep their iCandy apps to themselves. They let their own apps languish and sometimes cancel them outright. No thanks. I'd rather have a company dedicated to content creation tools provide my software.
 
I hope the rumor is true. I would appreciate it even more if they replaced Soundbooth with Audition altogether.

And yes, Vegas Pro is a great application.
 
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