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Since the subscription was introduced it's all become a bug-fest. I currently don't seem to have scroll bars in Acrobat, InDesign seems to have issues with copying URLs, Photoshop actually crashes for me these days (something that used to be unheard of), Illustrator Ai/EPS files now bloat hugely etc etc... I could go on and on ... (I've even seriously started to wonder about going back to QuarkXpress, Final Cut etc but like many due to client pipelines etc I'm locked in and Adobe knows this... What's the term - ah yes, the Ensh****n of Everything)
 
Getting access to Adobe Fonts is pretty cool though. :p
Meh.

You used to be able to get all the Monotype and Linotype fonts from Adobe, but no longer: MT now do their own subscription access to their fonts.

Apart from the decent Adobe Originals, like Minion, Myriad, Garamond etc, (which they used to bundle with Creative Suite), most of fonts in Adobe Fonts are from 'boutique' foundries, trying to do whacky things, or just adding to the pile of generic serifs and sans faces.

And as for the subscription itself: Book publishers don't need video software, and vice versa. Saying "Oh, you get After Effects as well" is no benefit to someone who works in Print. The subscription setup should give users the flexibility to pay only for the software they use: but the different options are less useful than the different Creative Suite packages.
 
Not all of us are pros. Some of us are hobbyist where our hobby doesn't bring in cash.

Most hobbies involve some cost. If you do crafts, you need materials, if you play sports you need equipment or membership of a club to access their facilities.

I have to agree that subscriptions can be distasteful. I make music for fun/relaxation using Logic Pro and having to pay $50/year (or $5/month) for the excellent iPad version can really suck when some months I barely even have time to even launch the app! $50/year isn't bad though vs. what Adobe charges for it's software. The pricing is really geared at businesses that generate revenue with these tools, not creatives that just make art.
 
As an amateur just getting into photography as a hobby, I am trying to figure out what to use.
Pixelmator Pro (one time cost) or Photomator (monthly, yearly or lifetime cost) are really good, and cost much than Adobe's options if you only need photo editing abilities.

If you aren't sure at all, try out Apple Photos - there are plenty of tools inside the app that can let you do basic editing too.
 
As an amateur just getting into photography as a hobby, I am trying to figure out what to use.
If you want to go beyond the Apple Photos app (not bad, btw), Adobe has a photography subscription for 9.99/month, which includes Lightroom Classic, Lightroom (for mobile/cloud), and Photoshop. It comes with 20GB of cloud storage, which you can upgrade to 1TB for another $10/month.

If I wasn't entrenched in the Adobe world, I would probably check out the Affinity suite of apps (affinity.serif.com). I might look at them anyway :)
 
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I don’t mind paying a monthly subscription for the photography plan, lightroom and photoshop are amazing. What I do mind is being locked in for 12 months at a time, and what I mind even more is when they quietly renew you for another 12 months without you realising.

Pro tip. You have the ability to enter a reminder a year in advance in your calendar or reminders. you are welcome. :D
 
They offer the photography plan which is what I pay for. It gives me Photoshop, Lightroom, Lightroom Classic, Premiere Rush & full Photoshop on iPad for £120 a year or you can pay monthly. Can't complain about that.

I think you can subscribe individually to different apps but it usually works out cheaper to just go for the full CC subscription if you need more than a few.

That’s my point.

They upsell you by making the full CC subscription cheaper by a few dollars.

Here in Canada, for all the apps, it’s $80 CAD.
PS, AI and ID cost $30 each or 3 for $90.

So instead of pricing each app like $15, so you’d only spend $45 for 3 apps you need, you pay an extra $35 for apps you don’t need.

Yes, I know it’s a business but also why many dislike subscriptions.
 
"Introductory offers" to subscriptions always seem slimy to me - "We'd like to thank you for being our customer for 1 year, so we'll charge you more money than the new customers who we just met."
On the other hand, if you're sticking with them for another year, they must've added some value to your life. How would they know to raise or lower your renewal rate unless you complain and cancel? And then you can always just renew as a "new" customer with the discounted rate ;-)
 
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Adobe can continue milking Windows users with their utterly sluggish Creative Cloud subscriptions.

Mac users do not need this crap since little Estonian company made Pixelmator. Only 20$ and you are a king of graphic design
 
If you want to go beyond the Apple Photos app (not bad, btw), Adobe has a photography subscription for 9.99/month, which includes Lightroom Classic, Lightroom (for mobile/cloud), and Photoshop. It comes with 20GB of cloud storage, which you can upgrade to 1TB for another $10/month.
There's also a Lightroom-only plan that offers just Lightroom CC (not classic) and 1TB of cloud storage for $9.99/month USD, which still gives access to the excellent Lightroom for iPad app.
 
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Most hobbies involve some cost. If you do crafts, you need materials, if you play sports you need equipment or membership of a club to access their facilities.

I have to agree that subscriptions can be distasteful. I make music for fun/relaxation using Logic Pro and having to pay $50/year (or $5/month) for the excellent iPad version can really suck when some months I barely even have time to even launch the app! $50/year isn't bad though vs. what Adobe charges for it's software. The pricing is really geared at businesses that generate revenue with these tools, not creatives that just make art.
I agree that costs are part of the hobby. I just wish Apple would reintroduce Aperture at half the cost of what Abode is offering its software for. That would make it hobby friendly.
 
Our company bought the Affinity apps & CaptureOne a while back instead.
Adobe just seems like outdated legacy nonsense running on zombie subscriptions and lazy edu contracts now.
Capture One costs $299 to buy and no longer includes any features updates, nor is upgrade pricing available. If you want to upgrade for whatever reason you need to fork over an additional $299. That means you need to wait at least 2.5 years between upgrades of Capture One to break even over the cost of the Photography Plan, and that doesn't even include an image editor.
 
I agree that costs are part of the hobby. I just wish Apple would reintroduce Aperture at half the cost of what Abode is offering its software for. That would make it hobby friendly.
The Photos app is surprisingly powerful as a raw image editor even if it lacks some of the advanced features of Lightroom (namely around local edits).

For users who don't want to deal with subscription fees there are plenty of options, ranging from consumer-oriented options like Photoshop Elements, to prosumer offerings like Luminar Neo, RAW Power, Pixelmator and Photomator, to pro-level software like Affinity Photo, DxO PhotoLab and CaptureOne. And don't forget free/open source options like DarkTable and GIMP.

For many users who are photography hobbyists a copy of Apple Photos paired with Affinity Photo is more than enough.
 
As an amateur just getting into photography as a hobby, I am trying to figure out what to use.

I'm the same and don't want a subscription so I'm using Luminar Neo (lifetime).

I'm not sure how it compares to the current Adobe subscription products but it works well for what I need.

 
I always get half off, because every year they try to increase the price, and I say I'm going to cancel, then they give me half off again. Been doing this for years. They don't care.
 
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