That 5.4" looks like the perfect upgrade if it will have that size shown in the mockup. To everyone who argues the current 11 pro is a valid upgrade. It isn't if you care about size and weight. Like others pointed out it is 33% heavier, that's a lot. It is also noticeably thicker and and somewhat larger. It can't match the thin light appeal of a 6s by far.
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*sigh* This is why I've never liked Apple going super thin. The only issue with my iPhone 7 is battery and if it had a bigger battery, it would have had more "slack" so to speak.
We've got iPad 5th gen (A9) and 6th gen (A10) in the household. They still perform quite well on iOS 13. Absolutely no complaints on the battery life on those and they can still see me through an entire day's usage. Battery probably doesn't last as long compared to when they were new but at the time, they were doing 16+ hours onscreen time easily anyway so even if that's dropped to 12 hours or so, it's still good.
It doesn’t really compete for the mainstream market either though. It’s starting price is £1049, despite being a more manageable size than the iPhone 11.
I for one am stoked that apple chose the iPhone 6-8 form factor for the new SE since all accessories work the same. It was exactly what I was looking for. I like the "idea" of keeping the iPhone 5/5s/SE smaller size, but I'm getting old and prefer the slightly larger size. I think it's a good upgrade at a great price point.
I don’t buy that. The camera alone from a 6S to an 11 would be like traveling through hyperspace.
I have some family with a 6S and it runs but lord it’s rough.
It definitely is for some of us. It may not seem much larger than the 8/SE, but when I actually use it, I can instantly tell that it’s far less ergonomic due to being significantly thicker and heavier.
You don’t speak for everyone, unfortunately.
Not by 2020 standards. It has a bigger display and is around same size and weight as the first phablet though: 5.3" Galaxy Note
Unfortunately for those of us who prefer smaller phones, phablets are pretty much standard size at this point in time while smartphones that are currently considered phablet-sized are approaching mini tablet sizes.
Could you please elaborate on that?
I have no performance issues with the 6s whatsoever. Maybe you are talking about a 6 which is significantly slower.
The OP has a point. Everyone is talking about the X and later, which have larger screens, like the Plus models, but take less space than the Plus size models. And, perhaps it’s not much larger than a 4.7” iPhone, but, it is a bit larger and definitely heavier.
Eventually Apple will make an iPhone that is smaller than the 6-8 series, but slightly or somewhat larger screen. if it’s the 12, it could be 5 months, or, more likely, it could be delayed due to Apple not being able to develop prototypes the way they usually do right now.
I’ve had the 6, 6s, 7, 7+ and 8. I have to say the 7 was the most impressive...removing the headphone jack allowed them to shift the weight around in such a way as to not only make it lighter than the 6s, but also feels more balanced in the hand. The screen also has better color and brighter than the 6/6s. IP67 water resistance is the result from removing the headphone jack. And they added stereo sound from the speakers. ...the glass back 8 or 2020 SE are slightly heavier, but if you get the new SE you’re going to get something much faster that has better connectivity: more LTE channels, WiFi 6, BT5, it takes better pictures. If that’s not enough for you, then wait for the next iPhone....
Eventually Apple will make an iPhone that is smaller than the 6-8 series, but slightly or somewhat larger screen. if it’s the 12, it could be 5 months, or, more likely, it could be delayed due to Apple not being able to develop prototypes the way they usually do right now.
I’ve had the 6, 6s, 7, 7+ and 8. I have to say the 7 was the most impressive...removing the headphone jack allowed them to shift the weight around in such a way as to not only make it lighter than the 6s, but also feels more balanced in the hand. The screen also has better color and brighter than the 6/6s. IP67 water resistance is the result from removing the headphone jack. And they added stereo sound from the speakers. ...the glass back 8 or 2020 SE are slightly heavier, but if you get the new SE you’re going to get something much faster that has better connectivity: more LTE channels, WiFi 6, BT5, it takes better pictures. If that’s not enough for you, then wait for the next iPhone....
You said ‘Apple didn’t want to stick to making a 4 inch iPhone‘, do you know why that is? I have a pretty good idea myself, and it was because it wasn’t making them money anymore. That’s why they removed it from their lineup. Apple is in a position to make money, And the SE was proven successful, which is why they revived the 4.7 inch variant, because it’s extremely popular as a ‘middle ground phone’ with an entry-level price point.
i also have owned a 6s all these years.
its been a great phone.
if you can wait just a few more months, the rumored 5.4" will have a smaller overall physical dimension than the 6/6s/7/8/newSE.
my supposition is that this 5.4" phone will be heavier in weight however, than the 6s is, and is all but sure to have the notch (even if it is one third smaller size than the current notch), and only Face ID.
the thing is, that not size but apple industrial design is to be blamed... for example, samsung note, huge plhone but man, how light it feels in hand, why the heck all iphones are so heavy? why not making light phone again?
Maybe I'm missing something but I really don't get this.
The 6S weighs 5.04 ounces. The iPhone X weighs 6.14 ounces. That's less than 23% heavier.
The X is only 4% taller, 6% wider, 9% thicker (the least important measurement).
The 6S weighs 5.04 ounces. The iPhone X weighs 6.14 ounces. That's less than 23% heavier.
The X is only 4% taller, 6% wider, 9% thicker (the least important measurement).
Exactly, 100% agreed. Apple made a great phone at a modest price point. With minimal bezels, removing the home button, stronger compartmentalization, and part advancements? The SE could eventually evolve into a device with more screen real-estate while keeping that compact form factor.
Assuming they still like iOS, the 4" phone crowd has to find their next choosing from the revamped lineups down the road. If they choose to let the OG SE be their daily driver for years to come, there will be a point where Apple drops support and it doesn't make sense to repair such a device anymore.
Those numbers on paper are small but in reality combined it’s a much nicer size to use.
$1000 for brand new for X/Xs/11 Pro if one doesn't want to buy used.
Also, that's slightly heavier than 6 Plus and the extra ounce is pretty noticeable for me particularly on clothes pockets. The side with the iPhone is noticeably weighed down.
Granted, I use cases so the complete assembly is probably considerably more than 200g. At these sizes, I'm a lot more prone to dropping phones compared to when iPhones were 3.5-4" so can't really go caseless. The practical thing would be to use plastic chassic instead of glass but of course, that's not premium enough.
I went from an iPhone 8 to the 11 Pro. I have very small hands and I don’t think the Pro is too big. I actually prefer its size to the 4.7 iPhone 8.
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The 5.8 11 Pro isn’t that much bigger than the old iPhone 8. i have the smallest hands and I adjusted (I’m very picky too!). Wouldn’t say the regular 11 Pro is a phablet.
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It does if you finance through Apple or if you’re on contract.
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I personally prefer a heavier phone. Light phones feel cheap and toy-like to me.
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The 5.8 11 Pro isn’t that much bigger than the old iPhone 8. i have the smallest hands and I adjusted (I’m very picky too!). Wouldn’t say the regular 11 Pro is a phablet.
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It does if you finance through Apple or if you’re on contract.
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I personally prefer a heavier phone. Light phones feel cheap and toy-like to me.
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I work in the app development sector. I have all current and past phones at hand all the time and i can assure you that the X (XS, 11 Pro) which are the supposed successors do feel much heavier and bulkier.
The missing home button is a minor issue when you get use to it (quickly). A simple quick swipe up where the home button used to be functions just like the button was there and before you know it its just like you are pressing a button and you don't miss the button at all. I personally am glad i dont have the button anymore, always wondered how many clicks before it would need replacing at an Apple premium cost
I personally am glad i dont have the button anymore, always wondered how many clicks before it would need replacing at an Apple premium cost
That’s why the 7/8/SE home button was far superior as it wasn’t a physical button.
The missing home button is a minor issue when you get use to it (quickly). A simple quick swipe up where the home button used to be functions just like the button was there and before you know it its just like you are pressing a button and you don't miss the button at all. I personally am glad i dont have the button anymore, always wondered how many clicks before it would need replacing at an Apple premium cost
I understand that. But, I used to be able to quickly shut down all apps still running in background by just double-clicking my home button. I’ve tried the “swipe” action as rapidly as I could without success. Do you know a way to duplicate the double-click on the no button type?
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