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simon48

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Sep 1, 2010
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I have the same problem since I installed Yosemite. I tried installing the latest Java version (v25 of something) but kept getting the same prompt telling me I need Java. I have no idea what programme is asking for it, I don’t have any CS or Photoshop type programmes (nothing at all from Adobe, in fact, apart from Flash). I uninstalled Java altogether but I still get the damn prompt.

As I've stated above some Java versions are not backwards compatible. The prompt is specifically asking for version 6, if you install the latest it won't do anything, you can install 6 and the latest (8) at the same time. Download Java 6 from the Apple page that the more info button links you to.
 

TsMkLg068426

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Mar 31, 2009
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Still popping up Tim Cook is one useless CEO seriously fix this issue no one wants Java and have no app that needs it.
 

Eseifan

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Jun 9, 2011
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As I've stated above some Java versions are not backwards compatible. The prompt is specifically asking for version 6, if you install the latest it won't do anything, you can install 6 and the latest (8) at the same time. Download Java 6 from the Apple page that the more info button links you to.

I’ve deleted 8 and downloaded 6 as you recommended. Let’s see if the problem disappears.
 

eco7777

macrumors regular
Dec 29, 2012
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I have this issue.
What do i have to do to completely get rid of java on my Mac?
 

shellehs

macrumors newbie
Oct 19, 2014
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There is a version of Java for 10.10, but it is owned by Oracle The Troll. So you only have one choice, to download thru Oracle.

If you tried to download Java from java.com, it will redirect you to the right location.
 

TsMkLg068426

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Mar 31, 2009
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I do not understand this why all of a sudden the new OS is forcing us to download Java when I have no app that needs it? I thought Apple no longer supports Java and no need for it like the old days which updated through Apple Update.
 

shellehs

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Oct 19, 2014
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No, Apple is NOT force you.
If there was no app needs Java, nothing will happen. Think about Flash on mobile devices.
If not, you have to download a new Java cuz Java has not been included in the OS X installation any more.


I do not understand this why all of a sudden the new OS is forcing us to download Java when I have no app that needs it? I thought Apple no longer supports Java and no need for it like the old days which updated through Apple Update.
 
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aristobrat

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Oct 14, 2005
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I do not understand this why all of a sudden the new OS is forcing us to download Java when I have no app that needs it? I thought Apple no longer supports Java and no need for it like the old days which updated through Apple Update.
I've upgraded about 10 Macs at work, and the only ones that get this message are the ones that have 3rd party apps that require Java (Lotus Notes and Crashplan Pro, usually).

The error message gives a link to an Apple page that has the link to download Java 6 SE, and that's fixed it on 100% of the Macs that needed it. But several of the Macs never needed Java, and the upgrade to Yosemite didn't force them to download it.

For my work computers, this is exactly the same way that Mavericks worked.
 

TsMkLg068426

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I've upgraded about 10 Macs at work, and the only ones that get this message are the ones that have 3rd party apps that require Java (Lotus Notes and Crashplan Pro, usually).

The error message gives a link to an Apple page that has the link to download Java 6 SE, and that's fixed it on 100% of the Macs that needed it. But several of the Macs never needed Java, and the upgrade to Yosemite didn't force them to download it.

For my work computers, this is exactly the same way that Mavericks worked.


When I click on the link there is nothing for Java 6 just tells me I can try Java 8 but as I a said I have no app that needs Java and I removed the map that needed, so why is it still appearing? Clearly a glitch.
 

aristobrat

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Oct 14, 2005
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When I click on the link there is nothing for Java 6 just tells me I can try Java 8 but as I a said I have no app that needs Java and I removed the map that needed, so why is it still appearing? Clearly a glitch.
If you click the Download button at the top of the page, it downloads the Java 6 SE.

It doesn't appear on any of the Macs that I manage that don't have apps that need Java, so I'm not convinced it's a Yosemite glitch yet. I still think it's a possibility that you have something on your Mac (that you're not remembering) that needs it.
 

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Taz-Matt

macrumors newbie
Oct 20, 2014
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Resolved it

Hey guys! You might have forgotten something. I had the same problem and fixed it a few minutes ago. Opened a terminal and typed:

$ java -version

It popped the error. I thought, might it be the Developer tools that I had installed on Mavericks that need an update (I.E.: not JRE but JDK). So I quit the terminal then downloaded and installed the latest version 8 JDK from Oracle, restarted terminal and typed the same command, no errors this time.

I have then rebooted to make sure since I had the same popup at reboot and again, no popup... So most likely Java is not needed by OSX itself but the JDK is needed for the Developer Tools if they are installed.

Have a nice day! :)
 

Proginoskes

macrumors member
Oct 19, 2014
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Tempe, AZ
For those of you who don't know ...

Java is a multi-platform programming language which currently seems to be the favorite (just like C and Pascal have in the past).

It is an essential aspect to any electronics you may buy.

Don't mock what you don't understand.




Getting back to what I was going to say in the first place ... Maple is another program that got affected by the upgrade. I ran the Java for OSX 2004-001 package, and Maple now works.
 

simon48

macrumors 65816
Sep 1, 2010
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Java is a multi-platform programming language which currently seems to be the favorite (just like C and Pascal have in the past).

It is an essential aspect to any electronics you may buy.

Don't mock what you don't understand.

Popularity doesn't mean something is good.
 

Taz-Matt

macrumors newbie
Oct 20, 2014
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Every language has its purpose. I'd say Java is to versatility whereas C/C++ is to efficiency. But for a Java program to work on all platforms, clients just need to install JRE and JRE exists for almost any platform. For C/C++, as a developer, you need to "port" the application for every platform you may want to distribute to, but it usually runs much faster since it is interpreted by the computer itself (compiled) versus Java that has an interpretation layer in between the code and the computer (JRE).

The problem is usually always the same. When an application does not run well, it is usually the result of bad programming, bad integration, poor/no performance testing or, choosing a language that does not match the purpose of the application.

At my job, a lot of apps are written in Java, they mostly run very well and almost never crash even if thousands of users work on them all day long. When an app crashes too often, one of the more experienced programmers takes a look, fixes the problems and it usually almost never crash again. Just like an experienced programmer would modify compiled C code (assembly) in a video game to make it run a few frames per second faster.

Anyways, I like Yosemite, like the interface and I've only had this very minor issue which was easy to fix up to now. Let's see how IOS 8.1 and Yosemite work together now. :D
 

monsterbassman

macrumors newbie
Oct 22, 2014
2
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help is here

After installing OS X Yosemite (10.10) I keep on getting message saying I need Java Runtume, why? I uninstalled Java long time ago because I did not need it. But I went to Java website and obviously there isn't one for OS X Yosemite (10.10).


Can someone help me with this so the message would stop appearing.

there is an update from apple that worked , don't bother with java and oracle they are idiots , i got help from apple and they cleaned up my mac to help it run faster also and gave me a free 30 day warranty too ,
Java for OS X 2014-001
from
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
 

MacOpus11

macrumors newbie
Oct 22, 2014
1
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I’ve deleted 8 and downloaded 6 as you recommended. Let’s see if the problem disappears.

Don't delete 8, just re-install 6.

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No, Apple is NOT force you.
If there was no app needs Java, nothing will happen. Think about Flash on mobile devices.
If not, you have to download a new Java cuz Java has not been included in the OS X installation any more.

Seems to be true, but finding the app causing the problem can be tricky. See apple forums.
 

TheBogeyMan

macrumors newbie
Nov 12, 2013
14
10
Get the JDK, not JRE

I was getting the infernal popup too.

I'm not sure why, but installing the recommended JRE didn't solve the issue. It *does* solve the issue for web content, so both Firefox and Safari in Yosemite are working with Java stuff for me fine, but I was still getting the mysterious popup for some unknown reason.

Entering 'java -version' on the terminal command prompt would do it on demand, even after installing JRE.

So, based on someone's earlier posting, I installed the JDK also. Bingo! Warnings all gone now.

JRE *and* JDK (Java SE 8u25), available here.
 

TsMkLg068426

macrumors 68000
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Mar 31, 2009
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After updating to Java 8.25 the problem still exist clearly this is a glitch because I have nothing that needs Java, I wonder if Apple knows this issue yet.
 

cicloide

macrumors newbie
Aug 4, 2013
2
0
Had the same issue... now gone

I had Java V8 U25 but a message would keep appearing saying I needed to update java.

So I followed instructions at java's website to uninstall java. Then, I went back to download version 7 and installed it. However, the message would still appear.

I decided to tray installing Version 8 Update 25 back again, this time on top of version 7.

Since then that message is gone. I have the latest Yosemite and the latest Java working all right!

Good luck trying this.
 
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