Ha ha Apple is so smart, this should be the true reason why iphone 14 in US does not increase price. They can now force you to use big carriers only and big carriers to increase prices with whatever deals with Apple lol xd.
Of course Apple knows what they are doing. Apple always has "deals" with main carriers in US. If you are forced to use esim, then when you go travel you cannot buy cheap Sim card for travel only, you can only use whatever expensive travel plan in the esim with the carrier.
No they don't. For their prepaid plan they make you visit a brick and mortar store, in person with your device. And not just "any" AT&T store. It has to be a corporate owned store. Couldn't be easier or more convenient...Does AT&T make you call CS to transfer p-sim/e-sim to a new iPhone, or login to your account on the web or is it all done right on your phone?
European ones have sim tray so you will probably be able to just order from European apple store. I’ll bet they will have an option on the USA site before long tooI really cannot understand this at all. Do they really not think these things through when they consider their market?
High end users who travel globally, now being locked out of phones unless they are going somewhere with a carrier that does prepaid esim.
In my case, I looked up the two carriers that apple says do esim in the Philippines. both of them are POST PAID PLANS.
Suffice it to say, I am not going to be going that route and signing a contract for using my phone when I am there for 3-4 weeks.
Perhaps someone can talk me off the cliff here
I am not just posting this to be that person that says "THAT'S IT, I RAGE QUIT" so somehow virtue signal against what is popular.
I have family in the Philippines and when I travel, I immediately remove my SIM and put in one of the carriers there.
HECK, pre-covid they used to give you a sim ON THE PLANE for this purpose. Smart marketing for Globe (the carrier) for sure.
I pay about $50 US and get 40 gigs of data, then remove the card when I get back to the usa.
This is incredibly convenient because I can walk up to any vendor in the airport, shopping mall or street corner shop, immediately get service and then pop my own network sim back in when I am taxiing back on the runway in the USA.
Middle of nowhere and travel? Good freaking luck in getting a fancy eSIM in a developing nation.
I want the "dynamic island" and I want to have that new camera, but I also want to have the phone connecting without having to go through unnecessary steps.
Am I wrong in this?
edit - APPLE HAS A PAGE... Dedicated to carriers that use esim.
In my country case, both esim providers are POSTPAID.
Contract based. That sucks, and again will disqualify someone like me.
How do I use that to add a physical SIM?You can just click add esim to add an international phone line on iOS 16. 🤷🏾♂️
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I doubt it. Apple is all in for US one.European ones have sim tray so you will probably be able to just order from European apple store. I’ll bet they will have an option on the USA site before long too
Perhaps someone can talk me off the cliff here
I am not just posting this to be that person that says "THAT'S IT, I RAGE QUIT" so somehow virtue signal against what is popular.
I have family in the Philippines and when I travel, I immediately remove my SIM and put in one of the carriers there.
HECK, pre-covid they used to give you a sim ON THE PLANE for this purpose. Smart marketing for Globe (the carrier) for sure.
I pay about $50 US and get 40 gigs of data, then remove the card when I get back to the usa.
This is incredibly convenient because I can walk up to any vendor in the airport, shopping mall or street corner shop, immediately get service and then pop my own network sim back in when I am taxiing back on the runway in the USA.
Middle of nowhere and travel? Good freaking luck in getting a fancy eSIM in a developing nation.
I want the "dynamic island" and I want to have that new camera, but I also want to have the phone connecting without having to go through unnecessary steps.
Am I wrong in this?
edit - APPLE HAS A PAGE... Dedicated to carriers that use esim.
In my country case, both esim providers are POSTPAID.
Contract based. That sucks, and again will disqualify someone like me.
They don‘t have the same 5G bands supports that the US models have so that might cause poor performance in some areas… The US version also has more 5G bands.Just a thought... you could drive up here to Canada and purchase an iPhone 14 from Apple. All phones sold in Canada are unlocked, and still have a SIM tray.
iPhones sold in other markets don‘t have the same or as much 5G bands supported so that might cause poor performance in some areas in the US…The US iPhone Pros are models A2650 and A2651 max
These are eSIM only
You want model A2890 or A2894 which still have
SIM Card support
For a US person ordering from Canada is probably closest
What ever you do, don’t get it in the Philippines
iPhone 14 Pro6.1-inch display¹From ₱70,990
Three years ago I struggled to get a eSIM conversion because I needed two lines
Now more and more carriers are letting you convert by App (qr scan) or by call from a sim to eSIM
I would pop out one of those sims you bought overseas and do some online research.
They may have the same hardware but iPhones sold in other markets don‘t have the same or as much 5G bands supported so that might cause poor performance in some areas in the US.I just saw a thread saying Canada hardware is the same as Yankee hardware
But without a SIM tray opening, there is less chance for water to enter your device 😉 Especially through the SIM tray 😉 which is now non-existent 😉Wonder how they check for water intrusion now. didn’t they access it via sim tray before ?
That's exactly why they did it. They don't want you to take Sim card out. Somehow they are interested if you pay roaming, or whatever. My wife won't buy Iphone 14 because of it, she'll chose the model with regular SIM. Just as me. When they'll realize people prefer having regular SIM Card they'll make these features at least optional.I really cannot understand this at all. Do they really not think these things through when they consider their market?
High end users who travel globally, now being locked out of phones unless they are going somewhere with a carrier that does prepaid esim.
In my case, I looked up the two carriers that apple says do esim in the Philippines. both of them are POST PAID PLANS.
Suffice it to say, I am not going to be going that route and signing a contract for using my phone when I am there for 3-4 weeks.
Why would Apple be interested if you have to pay roaming fees to your carrier? Please explain.That's exactly why they did it. They don't want you to take Sim card out. Somehow they are interested if you pay roaming, or whatever. My wife won't buy Iphone 14 because of it, she'll chose the model with regular SIM. Just as me. When they'll realize people prefer having regular SIM Card they'll make these features at least optional.
There are always some kickbacks from Mfr to the Carrier, and, although they wouldn't specify it directly I'm pretty sure they help each other to make moneyWhy would Apple be interested if you have to pay roaming fees to your carrier? Please explain.