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hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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I genuinely don't understand the 15 second boast at all.

My white 3 year old crackbook w/ Intel 180gb SSD boots from power off -> firefox desktop in just over 15 seconds. That is hardly 'instant on'..

False advertising in my opinion.

Instant on is the new sleep wake time of under 1 second.

Whats a crackbook? Is that power button -> desktop or just kernel -> desktop?
 

randomtask

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Feb 20, 2010
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Instant on is the new sleep wake time of under 1 second.

Whats a crackbook? Is that power button -> desktop or just kernel -> desktop?

My sleep to wake time is approximately 1 second.
My boot time is timed from screen turn on at button push (bright white, no image on screen) -> desktop and firefox launched approximately 15 seconds.

Crackbook is Apple Macbook White Plastic 2,1. I call it a crackbook because the entire casing is falling to pieces.
 

hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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My sleep to wake time is approximately 1 second.
My boot time is timed from screen turn on at button push (bright white, no image on screen) -> desktop and firefox launched approximately 15 seconds.

Crackbook is Apple Macbook White Plastic 2,1. I call it a crackbook because the entire casing is falling to pieces.

The Air is timed from button push. Including all the black screen. But yea you are in luck then.. My MBP 15" with a Intel SSD takes 30 seconds to boot without the black screen which is almost 5 seconds for me. So the 15 would be a huge difference for me.

And the wake up for me is 4 seconds on my MBP... Yours is very good too, very unusual. I haven't seen a Mac wake that fast personally. Maybe the Pros are just slower in general...
 

hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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Yeah, that's just a gimmick. The Air is no better at this than any other machine. My MBP with a rotating drive wakes up just as fast.

Mine with a SSD takes 4 secs ;/ Even with a brand new Mac OS installation.
 

DannySmurf

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Mine with a SSD takes 4 secs ;/ Even with a brand new Mac OS installation.

My point was, if the computer is sleeping (not powered off), the drive isn't actually the important factor. Rotating or SSD makes no difference, since there's nothing to load when the computer comes out of sleep; everything is already in memory.

Mine wakes up just as fast as the MBA. The MBA's advantage here is its "lower-power mode" which gives the 30 days of sleep time. That's something existing machines don't do.
 

hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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My point was, if the computer is sleeping (not powered off), the drive isn't actually the important factor. Rotating or SSD makes no difference, since there's nothing to load when the computer comes out of sleep; everything is already in memory.

Well that certainly makes sense.

Mine wakes up just as fast as the MBA. The MBA's advantage here is its "lower-power mode" which gives the 30 days of sleep time. That's something existing machines don't do.

I just wonder... Why the hell is mine so slow then?? And in general.. All the Macs I have had always took a few secs... I mean Windows is certainly far slower with 8-10 secs but the Macs never woke up in under 4 seconds eiher..

The under 1 second Air speed I see on some YouTube videos is just insane in comparison!!
 

Parrotlet

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Oct 24, 2010
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Mine with a SSD takes 4 secs ;/ Even with a brand new Mac OS installation.



ram-a-liar-16.jpg
 

hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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Yea :)

From the point you hit the power button to the point it boots up ?

OMG, hell no!! We are talking about waking from sleep!!! And the 4 seconds that mine takes is far slower than the under 1 second an Air takes... Not a full boot up of course...
 

Parrotlet

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Oct 24, 2010
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OMG, hell no!! We are talking about waking from sleep!!! And the 4 seconds that mine takes is far slower than the under 1 second an Air takes... Not a full boot up of course...

Ohhh hell then I withdraw my previous statement. I thought you meant cold boot time.

Still a funny picture though
 

hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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By any chance did you use the disk utility to erase free space. I once did that on my SSD and everything got screwed up after

Not really, but I used to use FileVault and recently stopped doing that. But while I had FileVault on, I also had Login upon wakeup on and that actually made it even slower...
 

hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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That's not good at all, something's definitely wrong. We have 2 MBP's and a white unibody macbook in the family and they are all ready to use from wake within 2 seconds and all using stock 5400rpm HDD's

Strange thing is this also happens on a brand new installation. I just tried that out a few weeks back because it was annoying... It didn't help at all so I restored my original Mac OS from Time Machine...

And I can't remember it waking up faster ever actually... Maybe it used to be at 4 secs once...
Also I have another MBP 1,1 lying around that is just as slow at waking up...
 

tkermit

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And I already made a video with my iPhone proving that my MBP takes actually more like 6 seconds to wake up!!! It's horrible :/

http://gallery.me.com/hachre/100456

Something's definitely messed up with your system. I've never seen a MBP wake up that slowly. I'm using an Early '06 Macbook 1,1 that has an Intel X25-m g2 SSD installed, with an additional regular hard drive put in an Optibay. It takes exactly 1.6s for it to wake up and be usable. :confused:

Have you tried resetting the SMC ?
 

hachre

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Sep 26, 2007
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Something's definitely messed up with your system. I've never seen a MBP wake up that slowly. I'm using an Early '06 Macbook 1,1 that has an Intel X25-m g2 SSD installed, with an additional regular hard drive put in an Optibay. It takes exactly 1.6s for it to wake up and be usable. :confused:

Have you tried resetting the SMC ?

Yea... Also the PRAM, nothing is helping...
 

DannySmurf

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Jul 7, 2005
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"Something is definitely messed up" seems a bit alarmist. We're talking about a few seconds here. This is not something to get stressed out about.
 

OSMac

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Jun 14, 2010
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Ok back to the original topic ....

Is your Air taking 15 or 30 secs for a cold boot?
 

Stingray454

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Sep 22, 2009
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Did you guys (that are experiencing slow booting) check that you have a startup disk selected in System Preferences? It seems it's sometimes not selected at the default installation, or gets "unselected" for whatever reason. This makes the mac search for bootable devices at power on, which can take everything from 0-30 seconds it seems. Probably not the cause, but worth checking.
 

soldierblue

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Mar 23, 2009
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11.6/2/64

Was 30 seconds when I first got it, then it went to 15. Then I did a batch of updates and it went back to 30.

:/
 
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