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I own AirPods and I rate them as

  • Excellent

    Votes: 403 70.5%
  • Good, but I've got some problems

    Votes: 134 23.4%
  • No good, I'm returning them to Apple

    Votes: 14 2.4%
  • Tim Cook isn't Steve Jobs and Apple is doomed, etc.

    Votes: 21 3.7%

  • Total voters
    572

danmart

macrumors 68000
Apr 24, 2015
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Hello all, I have not yet read though the 9 pages that is this thread but I will do so by the end of this evening.
As of now I just wanted to drop in and ask: has anyone noticed that when the AirPods are connected and playing audio from the Mac if you open an app that is supporting handoff on the iPhone (Mail does it every time for me) the audio drops out on the pods? Could this mean that the airpods are somehow using handoff protocol to switch devices?
I just tried this with my 2015 MBP and didn't get any drop out.

Continuity does use Bluetooth between devices, so they are on the same 'channel' as the AirPods. I would suggest restarting your Mac and making sure you are on the latest build of macOS to see if this resolves the problem for you.
 

andyjam

macrumors regular
Aug 30, 2008
163
47
Sydney, Australia
My left AirPod has suddenly stopped working! Have tried reconnecting them to no avail, the popup screen on my phone has a small red exclamation mark next to the left AirPod.

So the answer to all the "what happens when you lose one" questions is that the other continues to work just fine. I'll be marching into the Apple Store tomorrow and hoping beyond hope that they have replacement units or can resolve the problem.

Edit - false alarm, it is working again. No idea what was wrong and just hoping it doesn't happen again.
 
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ulinerg

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Oct 21, 2014
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Any response issues with winter gloves?
Works fine with winter gloves. Double tap and I get Siri. This morning I stopped to talk to a friend and I took out one Bud from my ear and when I wrapped my glove around it the music started playing.

BTW having a toque (that's Canadian for wool cap) on helps insure that buds wouldn't fall out. If they did they would be hard to find in the snow. Not to say that they fall out, I have better luck keeping these in compared to the EarBuds when i move around or bend down.
 

austriak

macrumors regular
Jul 10, 2011
178
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I returned my airpods. I've tried many of the more popular wireless headphones and these are by far the best but I have learned that I personally just don't like wireless headphones yet. Mainly, how often you have to charge them. It is nice that the case does the charging but the case is just another thing to charge every day or two.

They are comfortable and they stayed in my ears but they would fall out if I shake my head too hard. I think the sound quality is being exaggerated a little bit due to excitement because they are better than earpods but only marginally. I did not find this to be a problem but mine were not as loud as my earpods.

It connects with ios devices quickly and reliably. I never had lag or sound issues. I missed having the remote but I could live without it.

If I was to fully commit to wireless headphones, these would be it but I am fine sticking with my wires and not having to charge another thing.
 

JNGold

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Aug 25, 2009
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Agreed. Or, just hit the volume buttons on the iPhone. I'm not sure what labored edge-cases everyone is stressing over where it is a challenge to get to their phone.

Um, the purpose and convenience of being truly "wireless" is that you reduce the need to be tethered to another device to perform basic functions when listing to any type of audio. While, of course, the phone, watch, or other device that the Airpods are paired to ultimately have the most control over what you are doing there are times when accessing those source devices are not "convenient" to do a simple action (i.e. volume control, next / back, etc).

Try putting on a coat (winter or otherwise) with a pair of gloves in cold weather and try to perform a simple task using the Apple Watch (which I do own). Nothing is as convenient (or quick) as accessing in-line control on a BT headset, especially for volume. I don't have to pull out a phone from a coat or pants pocket on the run, etc.
 
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NT1440

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May 18, 2008
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Um, the purpose and convenience of being truly "wireless" is that you reduce the need to be tethered to another device to perform basic functions when listing to any type of audio. While, of course, the phone, watch, or other device that the Airpods are paired to ultimately have the most control over what you are doing there are times when accessing those source devices are not "convenient" to do a simple action (i.e. volume control, next / back, etc).

Try putting on a coat (winter or otherwise) with a pair of gloves in cold weather and try to perform a simple task using the Apple Watch (which I do own). Nothing is as convenient (or quick) as accessing in-line control on a BT headset, especially for volume. I don't have to pull out a phone from a coat or pants pocket on the run, etc.
Now, I'm all for the Airpods being updated to support forward/rewind/play/pause.

That said, the point of wireless is explicitly to not have wires.....
 

friedmud

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Jul 11, 2008
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Um, the purpose and convenience of being truly "wireless" is that you reduce the need to be tethered to another device to perform basic functions when listing to any type of audio. While, of course, the phone, watch, or other device that the Airpods are paired to ultimately have the most control over what you are doing there are times when accessing those source devices are not "convenient" to do a simple action (i.e. volume control, next / back, etc).

Try putting on a coat (winter or otherwise) with a pair of gloves in cold weather and try to perform a simple task using the Apple Watch (which I do own). Nothing is as convenient (or quick) as accessing in-line control on a BT headset, especially for volume. I don't have to pull out a phone from a coat or pants pocket on the run, etc.

I really think that Siri is the most convenient way to deal with gloves/coats/hats/etc. The AirPods work great under a wool cap... even tapping them for Siri works great.

Tapping the side of my head and saying what I want is even easier than trying to find a tiny little "inline" control or control on the side of regular BT headphones with gloves.

I also find that the times when I have gloves on typically correspond to times when using Siri is not a big deal...
 

conifer

macrumors regular
Oct 30, 2014
154
37
Pretty happy with them. My only complaint is along with a lot of others they are in need of more touch commands that would make their functionality comparable with the wired inline remote.

With my Earbuds I have always used either foam covers (for everyday use) or Earhoox (for exercise).When these were first announced I had decided to get them right away because I like how the stock Earbuds fit but I hate the wires. I thought there would be no way that the foam covers that I use would work as they are a pain to get on. I just wasn't going to be taking them on and off. I had used them for a day stock then today decided to try the foam covers. I thought I'd have two problems. 1. I thought the IR sensor wouldn't work and 2. I thought they wouldn't fit in the case. I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong on both accounts. They turn on and off when inserting/removing them and they fit in the case and the lid closes all the way. One of the reasons I use foam covers is to keep them more securely in my ears but the Airpods seem to fit very well. But another great benefits is the increase in sound quality. Having that little bit of seal increases bass and overall sound that would normally leak away.

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Looks cool. Where can I find these foam covers that make it so the case still closes?

Had a scare as my normal chargers wouldn't charge the case. Tried w MacBook and was fine. I have a new MacBook pro with the usb c so couldn't try--I ordered some cheap cord from Amazon that seemed to get good reviews so I hope it won't fry the pro. I agree with the post who said we are paying 1500 plus for the laptop so the least Apple should do is throw in a cord for the phone /Airpod case other iOS devices to work and not charge us $19 for it.

Dug out an iPhone charger and it worked. So wait, does that mean only Apple plugs will charge the case?
 

JNGold

macrumors 6502a
Aug 25, 2009
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I really think that Siri is the most convenient way to deal with gloves/coats/hats/etc. The AirPods work great under a wool cap... even tapping them for Siri works great.

Tapping the side of my head and saying what I want is even easier than trying to find a tiny little "inline" control or control on the side of regular BT headphones with gloves.

I also find that the times when I have gloves on typically correspond to times when using Siri is not a big deal...

Too slow a solution for a simple action. (if you are in a area with a good connection)
1. Tap to activate siri. Wait for her to respond
2. Issue command
3. Wait for command to be sent to Apple server for processing (YMMV)
4. Wait for action to be processed.

Normally, based on my extended experience with Siri, for action like lowering or raising volume, that is not a very efficient way of performing the simplest form of action. And lets say the volume adjustment up or down is not enough for your liking (even giving a % command can be pot-luck), then you have to perform the whole process all over again (again, a simple press of a physical control on your person).

There is absolutely nothing that is more efficient and timesaving than the ability to control basic functions from the headset itself.
 

friedmud

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Jul 11, 2008
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Too slow a solution for a simple action. (if you are in a area with a good connection)
1. Tap to activate siri. Wait for her to respond
2. Issue command
3. Wait for command to be sent to Apple server for processing (YMMV)
4. Wait for action to be processed.

Normally, based on my extended experience with Siri, for action like lowering or raising volume, that is not a very efficient way of performing the simplest form of action. And lets say the volume adjustment up or down is not enough for your liking (even giving a % command can be pot-luck), then you have to perform the whole process all over again (again, a simple press of a physical control on your person).

There is absolutely nothing that is more efficient and timesaving than the ability to control basic functions from the headset itself.

Gloves change the dynamic.

With my old BT earbuds (which had a wire in-between them... but the volume control was ON the right earbud) it was essentially impossible to change the volume with gloves on.

Works great with Siri with the AirPods.

Even with EarPods... trying to find the inline remote with hat/coat/scarf/gloves on and then hit it the right way could take longer than just double tapping and telling Siri what's up...

And yes: I use "set volume to X%". The first day I had the AirPods I played with the percentages and memorized the ones I liked for high/normal/low. It's actually pretty quick as long as Siri works well in that area... which is not guaranteed so I grant you that part!
 
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jonnyb

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Jan 21, 2005
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Pretty happy with them. My only complaint is along with a lot of others they are in need of more touch commands that would make their functionality comparable with the wired inline remote.

With my Earbuds I have always used either foam covers (for everyday use) or Earhoox (for exercise).When these were first announced I had decided to get them right away because I like how the stock Earbuds fit but I hate the wires. I thought there would be no way that the foam covers that I use would work as they are a pain to get on. I just wasn't going to be taking them on and off. I had used them for a day stock then today decided to try the foam covers. I thought I'd have two problems. 1. I thought the IR sensor wouldn't work and 2. I thought they wouldn't fit in the case. I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong on both accounts. They turn on and off when inserting/removing them and they fit in the case and the lid closes all the way. One of the reasons I use foam covers is to keep them more securely in my ears but the Airpods seem to fit very well. But another great benefits is the increase in sound quality. Having that little bit of seal increases bass and overall sound that would normally leak away.

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YakPHZI.jpg
I got some covers today and this totally works. Snugger fit, meaning better bass and less movement. Thanks for the tip!
 

Night Spring

macrumors G5
Jul 17, 2008
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Gloves change the dynamic.

With my old BT earbuds (which had a wire in-between them... but the volume control was ON the right earbud) it was essentially impossible to change the volume with gloves on.

Works great with Siri with the AirPods.

Even with EarPods... trying to find the inline remote with hat/coat/scarf/gloves on and then hit it the right way could take longer than just double tapping and telling Siri what's up...

And yes: I use "set volume to X%". The first day I had the AirPods I played with the percentages and memorized the ones I liked for high/normal/low. It's actually pretty quick as long as Siri works well in that area... which is not guaranteed so I grant you that part!

Sure, there are situations where using Siri to control volume and playback is convenient, but I think those instances are less frequent than the times when using physical controls is faster. So sure, it's good to have Siri as an option, but it being the only way to change volume is less than ideal.
 

friedmud

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Jul 11, 2008
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Sure, there are situations where using Siri to control volume and playback is convenient, but I think those instances are less frequent than the times when using physical controls is faster. So sure, it's good to have Siri as an option, but it being the only way to change volume is less than ideal.

Yes: He and I were specifically having a conversation about controlling volume with gloves. I was claiming that Siri is better suited to that task.
 

Nanotyrns

macrumors 65816
Sep 16, 2012
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Denver
Looks cool. Where can I find these foam covers that make it so the case still closes?

Had a scare as my normal chargers wouldn't charge the case. Tried w MacBook and was fine. I have a new MacBook pro with the usb c so couldn't try--I ordered some cheap cord from Amazon that seemed to get good reviews so I hope it won't fry the pro. I agree with the post who said we are paying 1500 plus for the laptop so the least Apple should do is throw in a cord for the phone /Airpod case other iOS devices to work and not charge us $19 for it.

Dug out an iPhone charger and it worked. So wait, does that mean only Apple plugs will charge the case?
I would think a standard USB charger would work fine. I'm just always wary of third party anything anymore. The nice thing is by now I don't have to purchase extra Apple chargers or cables since I've even got some that are still unopened from the last few phones I've owned.
 

JNGold

macrumors 6502a
Aug 25, 2009
889
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Gloves change the dynamic.

With my old BT earbuds (which had a wire in-between them... but the volume control was ON the right earbud) it was essentially impossible to change the volume with gloves on.

Not sure what you had, but I own Jaybird X2's, Beats Wireless Solo 2's, PowerBeats 2, Bose QC30's, and QC35's and never had an issue grabbling or pressing physical button on a control stick with or without gloves.

It's actually pretty quick as long as Siri works well in that area... which is not guaranteed so I grant you that part!

To my point, unless Apple offloads Siri to local processing, it will never match the speed of action of reaching up and pressing a button. Plus, add the social aspect of barking out commands on a crowded public transit system, or noisy environment like NYC. Personally, I think Apple dropped the ball on this one and hopefully will consider more options on a second gen or update via firmware.
 

Tinototem

macrumors regular
Sep 28, 2010
108
82
Sweden
Are you serious? These things charge super quick anyway!
I just got mine, so i have no idea how long a full charge takes, and to be honest it were more of a curious question. My primary iPhone chargers is the iPad 2.1A charger so i were just wondering if it helps charging my Airpods case faster :)
 
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andy.ringwood

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Nov 20, 2016
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I just got mine, so i have no idea how long a full charge takes, and to be honest it were more of a curious question. My primary iPhone chargers is the iPad 2.1A charger so i were just wondering if it helps charging my Airpods case faster :)
Fair enough. Yes, I have the faster charger for the iPhone too.

But trust me, for AirPods you won't need the faster charger.
 
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Puonti

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Mar 14, 2011
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Anybody have any experience with how they work with El Capitan? Know they technically require Sierra for the smart switching, etc - hoping some functionality works with El Capitan. My work computer is on El Capitan and I can't update it - I know I can pair them as a standard bluetooth device as a worst case scenario.

Pairing them as standard BT headphones is the way to go, I did this with myself with an El Capitan Mac.
 

friedmud

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Not sure what you had, but I own Jaybird X2's, Beats Wireless Solo 2's, PowerBeats 2, Bose QC30's, and QC35's and never had an issue grabbling or pressing physical button on a control stick with or without gloves.

I have the common "cheap @$$ BT headphones": https://www.amazon.com/Cordify-Blue...rd_wg=L10DA&psc=1&refRID=4GVHFQ323P4T61GDSV6A

They are pretty terrible... but they work well for working out.

To my point, unless Apple offloads Siri to local processing, it will never match the speed of action of reaching up and pressing a button. Plus, add the social aspect of barking out commands on a crowded public transit system, or noisy environment like NYC. Personally, I think Apple dropped the ball on this one and hopefully will consider more options on a second gen or update via firmware.

I was just using AirPods in NYC this week... I didn't have any problems using Siri with gloves and a hat while walking on the street. You don't have to "bark" commands. Just talk calmly and smoothly. The microphones on the AirPods seem to work really well. No one around me really seemed to care...
 

samcow

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Oct 20, 2015
156
113
Just wondering if everyone has the airpods pointing roughly vertically down, or somewhat towards their mouth. I ask because I recently saw someone walking around and the tips of his airpods seemed to be like 30 degrees up from mine. I can see this maybe making his voice quality better, however is the shape of my ear just strange and that's how everyone wears them?
 

Casimono

macrumors member
Dec 27, 2009
41
7
Has anyone ran into issues with slight headaches after using?

Yes. I can detect some radiation (like 2G cellphones transmitting at their maximum 2 watts @900Mhz gave me headaches once, and the same happened with 100BASE-TX over unshielded ethernet cables). My guess is that it's the synching signal between the two Pods needs to be quite strong to actually go through all that bone and muscle and tissue and brain matter between them, and that's what I'm detecting.

Still, I can detect it, but it doesn't bother me too much right now. If I continuously get a minor headache, it might return them towards the end of the return period.
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Anyone tried them out with an older Mac? I'd been using with my iP7 today without any issues, but connected up to my 5 year old iMac tonight and they're hopeless, dropping out every 4-5 seconds :( I guess this could be a problem with the older Bluetooth in the 2011 iMac?

They work perfectly fine on my 2008 MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.8. I had to manually pair them, but that's all. No dropouts. Even latency compensation is done properly in Quicktime Player, and were talking about an app from 2011 :-D
 

dave2010

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Jul 23, 2014
225
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For those using an iPhone SE are you noticing any drop outs? I get them only outside, and only when I put the phone in my pocket in very open space, away from buildings. After walking to and from work 4 times this week it happens in the same spots each time, though it's possible the free city WIFI or other technology is interfering.

I heard on the Happy Hour podcast that the SE has a bluetooth cut out problem when covered in a pocket but can't find any reference to this issue online.

It's a minor problem, I'd still rather use AirPods and the SE over other options but wondering if my device is faulty.
 
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