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Am I reading correctly? El Capitan runs very stable?
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did somebody try mission control with an external display. With Yosemite mission controll was very stuttering with multiple windows open on 3 monitors (2 external and the retina display).
My dreams come true if this stuttering is gone
It is a lot better! Check this post out: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ppy-in-yosemite.1857649/page-14#post-21430856
did somebody try mission control with an external display. With Yosemite mission controll was very stuttering with multiple windows open on 3 monitors (2 external and the retina display).
My dreams come true if this stuttering is gone
Here you are:
My riMac was getting to the point that it was basically unusable on Yosemite. I tried a clean install, and exiting every program I wasn't using, unplugging all but my necessary peripherals, you name it.
I kept getting random reboots. It was unusual for me to not have one overnight, and was greeted with the login screen when I came downstairs in the morning.
Was a pain as I left it on to stream my daughter's shows to the TV, and I would often get a call from the wife asking how to login/stream when I was at work
I've not had one random reboot since updating to El Cap. Not one. It's like a new computer!
I specifically didn't do a clean install as I wanted to see if there continued to be a problem with this computer. Was there a hardware problem, or was this Yosemite? I had very few programs installed, far fewer running than on my rock-stable 2011 i7 iMac, but it still gave me trouble.
I am very impressed with El Cap so far, and this is merely an early beta.
I kept getting random reboots. It was unusual for me to not have one overnight, and was greeted with the login screen when I came downstairs in the morning.
Was a pain as I left it on to stream my daughter's shows to the TV, and I would often get a call from the wife asking how to login/stream when I was at work
I've not had one random reboot since updating to El Cap. Not one. It's like a new computer!
I specifically didn't do a clean install as I wanted to see if there continued to be a problem with this computer. Was there a hardware problem, or was this Yosemite? I had very few programs installed, far fewer running than on my rock-stable 2011 i7 iMac, but it still gave me trouble.
I am very impressed with El Cap so far, and this is merely an early beta.
Your mileage will definitely vary on this one. As with any beta, it will depend a lot on your hardware and the particular apps you are running.
I'm on the 2015 13" MBP. Safari tabs crash and reload fairly often with a stack trace pointing at metal. I could reliably kernel panic by plugging in my thunderbolt ethernet adapter at WWDC. Mail crashes on certain IMAP transactions. It could be that your uses will trigger the bugs every time, or you never will.
I'm on the 2015 13" MBP. Safari tabs crash and reload fairly often with a stack trace pointing at metal. I could reliably kernel panic by plugging in my thunderbolt ethernet adapter at WWDC. Mail crashes on certain IMAP transactions. It could be that your uses will trigger the bugs every time, or you never will.
Is a clean install then restoring from backup useless?? Just like updating over Yosemite?
Technically, a clean install is wiping the drive and installing the OS and apps new. Sometimes, restoring from a backup can introduce problems into a beta OS. There are a lot of people on both sides of the thought process.
It's not useless, it's just that when you restore from backup, you're restoring a lot of useless stuff that can bog down the system. In my case, my Yosemite install was an upgrade from Mavericks, which also was an upgrade from ML. There were a lot of apps used and no longer used since, configuration changes, and so on.
I generally have a rule that if the upcoming OS is a third OS major update, it needs to be a clean install rather than an upgrade.
The clean install itself is almost a performance boost, it's not positive for the OS itself but just the nature of having no crap from previous years of use. Basically, I can get almost the same performance boost in Yosemite if I did a clean install.
For people who started out with Yosemite, it is likely El Cap will be fine as an upgrade but questionable for anything older than that.
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Had my first and only KP in years. Tried watching a YouTube video fullscreen while having another Vimeo video paused. Worked for a bit, then stuttered twice and KPd my computer. Good thing a reboot only takes a few seconds.
Close Safari. Should be fine upon restart (of Safari, not Mac) By chance, did you have Facebook pinned? My pins seem to freeze and have to get taken off. I've messed with Facebook a few times, but it finally seems to be working ok.
I've had a couple of crashes, but my biggest complaint is passwords not being saved. I have three gmail accounts that will work for a day or two, then the password is gone and there is no warning or pop up asking for passowrd. I just get the symbol for the account being offline. I haven't searched on this yet to see if there is a setting to change and I haven't tried any trouble shooting of my own, haven't had time as it is not on my daily machine. Hope to look at it today. I'm sure there is a .plist I can delete and recreate that might help out.
Any ideas?
Give you a kind warning.
If you have external USB disk, try disconnecting them as long as you don't use them.
I find Yosemite will often "lock" the external hard drive (formatted as NTFS), and render it completely impossible to eject from GUI, and you can no longer do a normal restart or shutdown, except you long press power button.
I know it is possible to the third party software I installed for it, however it is also possible that Yosemite causes this issue.
El Capitan beta does not solve the problem.
If you want to use external drive, try to use HFS+ partition as your disk partition, and use dedicated software on Windows if you want files accessible in Windows, and, NEVER encrypt your disk.
And, if your mac is a macbook air (whatever version it is), NEVER install this beta. Performance is EXTREMELY terrible.
If you have external USB disk, try disconnecting them as long as you don't use them.
I find Yosemite will often "lock" the external hard drive (formatted as NTFS), and render it completely impossible to eject from GUI, and you can no longer do a normal restart or shutdown, except you long press power button.
I know it is possible to the third party software I installed for it, however it is also possible that Yosemite causes this issue.
El Capitan beta does not solve the problem.
If you want to use external drive, try to use HFS+ partition as your disk partition, and use dedicated software on Windows if you want files accessible in Windows, and, NEVER encrypt your disk.
And, if your mac is a macbook air (whatever version it is), NEVER install this beta. Performance is EXTREMELY terrible.
did somebody try mission control with an external display. With Yosemite mission controll was very stuttering with multiple windows open on 3 monitors (2 external and the retina display).
My dreams come true if this stuttering is gone
Seems to be gone on my 2008 Mac Pro. Which still has its stock video card (really crummy nVidia GT120) which I still haven't gotten around to replacing. Probably going to buy it a new video card next week.
UI is overall smoother. And thats with a video card that doesn't even support metal!
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I do experience Safari hangs here and there, simply quitting and reopening fixes it for me. No issues with iCloud for me so far, but mind you I have most iCloud features disabled.
I feel that this release is more stable than the YOSEMITE Public release. So definitely, yes.
I have the same feeling.
You know, Yosemite completely crashes 5 TIMES in this spring! This drives me extremely crazy. And all crashes are related to my force shutting down due to long time unresponsive when trying to shut down or restart system. Every time I see this, I need to do a clean install, without backup. (I don't have the money to buy hard disk with thunderbolt cable for backup)
When I upgrade to El Capitan DP1, I shut down system by force about 4 times, and system here is still solid. Really amazing. Maybe from this version, I can find the experience of using Windows, which I think it is much much more durable than Mac OS X.