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My iPhone 13 Pro Max doesn't feel outdated to me. The only "defect" that's a pain in the butt is that it has the Lightning port and not USB-C (iPhones 15 Pro, for example, "just work" with most USB-C peripherals you could throw at them, and that includes external 4k displays). I feel like I'm going to keep it well until it disintegrates on me or until I can't replace its battery (right now it's at 83% health and at "peak performance" after 3 years).
 
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My iPhone 13 Pro Max doesn't feel outdated to me. The only "defect" that's a pain in the butt is that it has the Lightning port and not USB-C (iPhones 15 Pro, for example, "just work" with most USB-C peripherals you could throw at them, and that includes external 4k displays). I feel like I'm going to keep it well until it disintegrates on me or until I can't replace its battery (right now it's at 83% health and at "peak performance" after 3 years).
I forget it all the time, regarding my mini, that it has lightening, as I have a few wireless chargers to my 13 mini. So it's not often that I have to pick up a lightening cord for it. But it's true, it has lightning.

No big deal, I use lightening to charge my keyboard and trackpad to the Studio as well.
 
I plan to keep my 15 Pro Max as long as I can. These things aren't cheap and it's nice not having a monthly "phone payment". It's just basically a tool, and what I have works more than fine for my needs.
 
I mean this with zero disrespect to anyone in this thread, so please don't take it that way, but I think approximately 75% of the posters in this thread never actually cared about smartphones. The original poster (Tig Bitties) usually upgrades every year but recently has started to care less about them.

Anyone who is still ok rocking an iPhone Xr or a 6 or probably never valued smartphones at the same level as some of us.
 
As the price rises, the willingness to make the phone last longer increases. Some companies are also increasing the expected lifespan of phones. For myself, I prefer to change every 3 years. That makes the difference significant enough to notice properly, while keeping the residual value high.
 
As the price rises, the willingness to make the phone last longer increases. Some companies are also increasing the expected lifespan of phones. For myself, I prefer to change every 3 years. That makes the difference significant enough to notice properly, while keeping the residual value high.
Trade in values also play a part in it. It'll be interesting to see what Samsung has tomorrow, but the attractiveness of upgrading every year with them is that it felt like a mistake NOT to upgrade every year because their trade in values were sometimes higher than you could sell your phone on Swappa/Ebay/etc. Though last year, those trade in prices dipped a bit so we'll see.
 
Trade in values also play a part in it. It'll be interesting to see what Samsung has tomorrow, but the attractiveness of upgrading every year with them is that it felt like a mistake NOT to upgrade every year because their trade in values were sometimes higher than you could sell your phone on Swappa/Ebay/etc. Though last year, those trade in prices dipped a bit so we'll see.
I feel that tells more about the retailers and demand in the second hand market for used devices of the top end models. Android never attracted me, but my willingness to update is not at every year anymore either.
 
I would be delighted to buy a new phone if somebody would make something iPhone mini size or smaller

They’ve basically eliminated me as a buyer because everything is a huge slab of glass now
 
I feel that tells more about the retailers and demand in the second hand market for used devices of the top end models. Android never attracted me, but my willingness to update is not at every year anymore either.
My intro to Smartphones was Android way back in 2011 and I fell in love with rooting, flashing ROMs and themes, and then about 4 years after that, fell in love with the simplicity of iOS and calmed down a bit.

Now it seems like they are really interchangeable. Even more now with RCS and the face that you can video call on almost every social media app now.
 
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Trade in values also play a part in it. It'll be interesting to see what Samsung has tomorrow, but the attractiveness of upgrading every year with them is that it felt like a mistake NOT to upgrade every year because their trade in values were sometimes higher than you could sell your phone on Swappa/Ebay/etc. Though last year, those trade in prices dipped a bit so we'll see.

For tech enthusiasts, yes, but for many others upgrading is hassle regardless of the phone you're getting...and I agree with them; picking out a new case, a new screen protector, applying it, transferring data, relogging into apps that didn't transfer properly, reverifying wallet cards, fixing other random issues, etc...it sucks.

I don't personally know anyone that upgrades yearly, regardless of income or phone. My wife is a high earner, for example, and she kept her last Pixel for 6 years.
 
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For tech enthusiasts, yes, but for many others upgrading is hassle regardless of the phone you're getting...and I agree with them; picking out a new case, a new screen protector, applying it, transferring data, relogging into apps that didn't transfer properly, reverifying wallet cards, fixing other random issues, etc...it sucks.

I don't personally know anyone that upgrades yearly, regardless of income or phone. My wife is a high earner, for example, and she kept her last Pixel for 6 years.
Yep, just kind of figured most people here are tech enthusiasts.
 
I was excited by the possibilities of the Camera Control button, but like you I find the placement very awkward. I'm trying to build some muscle memory to use it more frequently, but with my smallish hands I can't get a proper hand alignment. I find myself defaulting to the screen controls more and more.
My experience was similar to yours, and I have average size hands (if there is such a thing). No matter how much I tried to accept and adapt to the Camera button it was just awkward.

I generally enjoy change and new things, but the Camera Control button location is odd. It seems as though the location was dictated not by good design, but by lack of room internally to fit it into a different location.

Perhaps Apple was so determined to add a new feature that they ignored proper ergonomics, and everything they know about usability.
 
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Apathy is hitting here too. Thinking about switching to Android to feel something different but quickly also remember that phones are generally all the same nowadays.

besides foldables, none of these companies make anything exciting.
Same but the other way around. I've always had Android and now want to switch to iPhone to feel something different.
 
For years I've used both Android and iPhones as I live and work in a cross platform environment. While I choose iOS as my primary device, I also appreciate what Android has to offer.

Since both platforms are now quite similar and mature, the differences are less than in the early years. Android apps have caught up and as such provide a nice alternative for those wanting to migrate to that platform.
 
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Definitely not alone.

I used to frequent this site so often I'd find myself typing MacR... every time I opened a web browser. But not lately.

To be clear, I've been a Mac user since 1985. Bought my first Mac in high school and that was NOT cheap. $3600 in 1987 money. I've written a ton of games and apps for the Mac and iOS over the years since then. Ran a booth at MacWorld. Ran Mac websites. Wrote about Macs for Dr. Dobb's Journal, MacAddict, and a few others.

But right now? I've never been less interested in Apple. If they added pencil support to the iPhone or MacBook, I'd be all over it. But there's nothing at all I'm excited about there anymore.

it sucks. Apple used to be my 'happy place' and now it's just... my phone. my computer...
Totally agree. I used to frequent the site often. But the yearly excitement is over and has been quite frankly. I've been on a two year upgrade cycle for the past 5 years. Have a 15 Pro Max. May replace this year, but also may keep for a while longer. Nothing wrong with it, has 8GB RAM, AI, good cameras, blazing speed, great display. If I do anything I may go back down to a smaller size phone, and if Apple added ProMotion/Alway-on-Display to the non-Pro lineup, I'd never buy a Pro again. But if they don't add that, I'll continue to buy Pro models as those are my favorite two options not eh iPhone.
 
I'm still using my iPhone 11 and it's working just fine. Right before Apple raised the cost to replace the battery a few years back I took mine and my Wife's down to the Apple store and got new batteries put in them. I'm not planning on upgrading mine until the latest OS no longer supports it. Otherwise I'm good. Instead of wanting a new phone I'm the opposite....I'm more interested in how long can I keep using the same phone without an upgrade. THAT'S how I judge my phones..not how new it is but how old of a model can you still use.

:)
 
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