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AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements

Stacc said:
Being able to add your own GPU to the mac pro would solve a lot of the complaints people have. Especially with the lack of mac pro updates and now that the 14/16 nm GPU generation is upon us.
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For how long you will be able to add inside computer another parts if WHOLE industry focus is going from computer parts, to computer "devices"?

Whole packages, without ability to be expanded otherwise than externally.
 
koyoot said:
For how long you will be able to add inside computer another parts if WHOLE industry focus is going from computer parts, to computer "devices"?

Whole packages, without ability to be expanded otherwise than externally.
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Thats fine, Apple can sell the whole package but if they are going to do that they better update it more often than every 3 years. Its a kick in the pants to lose upgradeability and be stuck with ancient hardware.
 
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This is not high-end computer market. This is just Nvidia CUDA market.

P.S. Looking at the reaction for HIP and GPUOpen initiatives things changed quite a lot in last few months.
 
AidenShaw said:
Apple will continue to lose high-end computer market share if their devices don't support CUDA.

Being locked into a second tier GPU vendor is just not good for sales.
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Right, Apple took away upgradeability and the ability to choose a custom graphics card and then didn't update it for years. I don't consider AMD a second tier GPU vendor but Nvidia has some very impressive GPUs especially if you care about gaming or CUDA.

koyoot said:
This is not high-end computer market. This is just Nvidia CUDA market.

P.S. Looking at the reaction for HIP and GPUOpen initiatives things changed quite a lot in last few months.
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They will also lose market share in the workstation market by not having high end CPUs and GPUs in their products.
 
Stacc said:
AMD's best bet is to try and leverage combining their CPUs and GPUs on the same chip like they have been doing for consoles. Intel has been doing this with its processors it bundles with iris graphics so it remains to be seen if there is a market for CPUs with more powerful embedded GPUs.
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AMD has already released an A10 proc like that when they released Polaris and the embedded GPU smokes the mobile Skylake.
 
RX 460 is out, its a cut down version of Polaris 11. Performance is nothing too exciting, it being a low end product. The value seems solid, especially in DX12 games that take advantage of async compute. It does seem that efficiency has improved a bit so that bodes well for a downclocked version that would appear in a macbook pro.

Its not hard to see that the full Polaris 11 chip could appear as the low end option in the mac pro, but it probably wouldn't be much of a performance improvement over the D300.
 
If anything will land as bottom end option for Mac Pro it is Ellesmere Pro(RX 470).

I don't know what AMD was thinking, when they were pricing RX 460. 129$ for 2 GB version and 159$ for 4 GB?

One thing comes to mind. Production costs on 14 nm process. Similar thing happening to Nvidia.
 
koyoot said:
If anything will land as bottom end option for Mac Pro it is Ellesmere Pro(RX 470).
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It depends, if they release a new mac pro this fall and follows the model of the previous mac pro, it will have to be based on Polaris 10 and 11. If they wait until next year it could be based on Vega and Polaris 10.

My prediction is

D310 -> Polaris 11 Full, 4 GB VRAM
D510 -> Polaris 10 Cut, 8 GB VRAM
D710 -> Polaris 10 Full, 16 GB VRAM
 
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If anything, Apple IMO will use something with more power. It will be absolutely laughable if after all this years they will offer Polaris 11 as base option for 2999$ and Polaris 10 as top end option in their computer, for another 1000$.

Not even Apple is that stupid.
 
If it does come sometime soon I tend to agree with Stacc.
However, koyoot is right, Polaris 11 will hardly be a replacement for D300, something new and better that is.
The lineup must start with Polaris 10 for sure, or Vega if they play the waiting game.
Maybe Vega 11 will be a cut down version of Vega 10, on GDDR5X, that will fill the D700 spot.
But not, Vega was advertised as having new memory (although GDDR5X is also new) but I believe it will stick to HBM2.
Apple is indeed in a tough spot, with little options for GPUs (assuming NVidia is indeed out of the equation), and better things to come.
 
Why are you guys speculating? AMD released the Firepro successors a week ago at Siggraph.

[doublepost=1470683689][/doublepost]Although, this one is the one that got the most buzz.

 
xsmi123 said:
Why are you guys speculating? AMD released the Firepro successors a week ago at Siggraph.
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Apples "FirePro" Dx00 have little to do with AMDs FirePro Wxxx lineup, so I don't think Apple will necessarily include those Radeon Pro GPUs (well, if the nMP gets ever updated).
 
Fl0r!an said:
Apples "FirePro" Dx00 have little to do with AMDs FirePro Wxxx lineup, so I don't think Apple will necessarily include those Radeon Pro GPUs (well, if the nMP gets ever updated).
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This is correct. For example while AMD's W9000 and the D700 both share a Tahiti XT GPU, but the W9000 has ECC VRAM and more importantly professional windows PC drivers available. The D700 lacks both of these things making it more similar to the consumer HD 7970.
 
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http://wsw.com/webcast/pc34/registe...rl=http://wsw.com/webcast/pc34/amd/index.aspx

Anadtech forum post said:
Some of the highlights from this Technology Leadership conference audiocast...

More technology licensing.
Vega coming within the next two Q's (I assume that means full ramp in '17, sporadic availability in '16?)
Polaris yields are NOT meeting demand... trying to ramp faster.
She once again stated they are working with TSMC as well. (Just consoles, or maybe Vega?)
Zen on track. (I assume full ramp in '17 as she was saying in her earnings report)
They do got 3 SoC wins, if it isn't nintendo, then whom?
She skirts around the nintendo question. They got a good relationship with them she says. (Is it possible they got more than one machine coming, like a main console, and another, portable version?)
VR...Playstation VR, lower end VR... blah blah blah.
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So it turns out that my information are true, after all ;)
 
I confess I had high hopes for Polaris but it's mostly a let down.
Polaris 10 is not bad but I guess I expected a little more.
I don't think here will be a Polaris 12 by now, for the 490. I guess a dual GPU card should be it.
Either Vega saves the day or AMD will sink again.
I'm thinking Apple will have to use Polaris 10 in the new rMBP instead of Polaris 11, or it will be a wash.
 
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