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First of All, one of the reasons why I discuss here, and take AMD side, is because I hate fanboyism in any way shape or form, to counter typical "opinions" on forums. That is the reason why I hate SemiAccurate forum, because it is 95% red tinted all over it, and I hate Anandtech forum, because the most vocal users are Nvidia fanboys.

Secondly. I do not have RX 480, currently I use MBP mid 2012 with Geforce GTX 650M, and linux workstation with Xeon E3 and... Nvidia GTX 980.

Get the point what I am writing. Steam is not the whole world. Steam is used in richest countries. Nvidia sells the most cards in richest countries. And over 70% of RX 480 sales have been in other countries than the richest ones. Thats what have consumed the availability and rised up prices for AMD GPUs. I never think as simply as most people on this board do, I want to compare data from other points of view.

Fair enough about numbers. But it cannot be used then to draw any conclusions about whole situation about sales. If you are doing this, in any analysis, and take those numbers seriously, you should be fired from your work.

The whole world run mostly iGPUs as they don't have the mean to fork $300US on a video card when this is about or more than what they make in a month or year... dGPU are vastly used in the western developped world and Steam is one of the major gaming plateform in service today.
 
The whole world run mostly iGPUs as they don't have the mean to fork $300US on a video card when this is about or more than what they make in a month or year... dGPU are vastly used in the western developped world and Steam is one of the major gaming plateform in service today.
So why the most popular GPUs currently in Poland are discreet Nvidia and AMD GPUs?

Again, here is not the richest country. Single GPU investement consumes over 60% of monthly budget here, yet people somehow menageto buy them. Similar thing you can observe in Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, Slovenia, Portugal, richest African countries, India, China. Actually the whole point of Polaris architecture was to be able to bring VR, and high end performance to much wider market. From which country Raja Koduri comes, eh? You think he is not aware of financial situation in his own country, or countries from that region? World does not end on USA.

And actually, you were right about me misunderstanding the point what Stacc has made. However, I adressed it with my post. If anyone bothers to understand it...
 
People are really reaching when they bring third world country as a mean to inflate AMD market share. My company donates thousands of computers per year for developping countries, only comes with a dGPU and never with a current model...
 
People are really reaching when they bring third world country as a mean to inflate AMD market share. My company donates thousands of computers per year for developping countries, only comes with a dGPU and never with a current model...
Are they going to companies, or home users?
 
So why the most popular GPUs currently in Poland are discreet Nvidia and AMD GPUs?

Again, here is not the richest country. Single GPU investement consumes over 60% of monthly budget here, yet people somehow menageto buy them. Similar thing you can observe in Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, Slovenia, Portugal, richest African countries, India, China. Actually the whole point of Polaris architecture was to be able to bring VR, and high end performance to much wider market. From which country Raja Koduri comes, eh? You think he is not aware of financial situation in his own country, or countries from that region? World does not end on USA.

And actually, you were right about me misunderstanding the point what Stacc has made. However, I adressed it with my post. If anyone bothers to understand it...

Poland is a part of the western world... So are the rest of Europe and Russia...
And please, post your numbers! Other have done so even if you don't agree with them.
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Are they going to companies, or home users?

Both........................
 
Poland is a part of the western world... So are the rest of Europe and Russia...
And please, post your numbers! Other have done so even if you don't agree with them.
Do you really want me to post every single link to shops selling computer hardware, and their lists of most popular hardware?

Do you even get about what I am talking about?

Yes, Poland is considered as part of western World. At least that is how it is considered. In the reality the development of this country is still... difficult. 'Nuff said.
 
Do you really want me to post every single link to shops selling computer hardware, and their lists of most popular hardware?

Do you even get about what I am talking about?

Yes, Poland is considered as part of western World. At least that is how it is considered. In the reality the development of this country is still... difficult. 'Nuff said.

In other word you are disregarding Steam published numbers with bloody nothing! Quite honest on your part.
Are you really trying to compare modern day Poland vs a country like India or Pakistan where 80%+ of the population lives at the subsisatnce level? Really? Please don't go there for your sake.
 
I get that you're and AMD fan and you're entitled to your opinions. However, I think it's hard to argue that the Pascal GPUs aren't selling very, very well. You can enjoy your RX 480, because I'm really enjoying my GTX 1080.

I sure hope you're really enjoying it, for $400-$500 more!!
 
In other word you are disregarding Steam published numbers with bloody nothing! Quite honest on your part.
Are you really trying to compare modern day Poland vs a country like India or Pakistan where 80%+ of the population lives at the subsisatnce level? Really? Please don't go there for your sake.
I am not disregarding. They reflect what people buy in richest countries, and the users of steam. Only. It doesnt reflect the situation of whole world. Because Steam is used in the richest countries.

Its another time, when you completely miss the point of what I am writing.
 
I am not disregarding. They reflect what people buy in richest countries, and the users of steam. Only. It doesnt reflect the situation of whole world. Because Steam is used in the richest countries.

Its another time, when you completely miss the point of what I am writing.

The richest country are the one who are buying the VAST MAJORITY of those card silly bunny... Third world country don't even appear in the radar.

And no I'm and others here are getting your point, it's just that your point is nonsensical and stupid. And I specified your point not you. So to recap you have zilch, nada, niet data to counter the Steam published data when said Steam is the most used gaming service in THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE BUYING THE MOST DGPUS AND WHERE AMD MAKES IT'S MONEY!
 
The richest country are the one who are buying the VAST MAJORITY of those card silly bunny... Third world country don't even appear in the radar.

And no I'm and others here are getting your point, it's just that your point is nonsensical and stupid. And I specified your point not you. So to recap you have zilch, nada, niet data to counter the Steam published data when said Steam is the most used gaming service in THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE BUYING THE MOST DGPUS AND WHERE AMD MAKES IT'S MONEY!
Latest reports from Q2 from research agancies claim that AMD before Polaris rollout have dragged some marketshare from Nvidia. And you know what is the funniest there? It was time, when Nvidia have released GTX 1070, and 1080 to the market.

Lets wait for Q3 numbers. Will see how this time it has changed one way or another.
 
Do you really want me to post every single link to shops selling computer hardware, and their lists of most popular hardware?
No, but it would be nice if you'd include one or two supporting links in most of your posts.

To simply state that "Apple's eGPU box will have a soldered GPU" without any support isn't even worth acknowledging.
 
Latest reports from Q2 from research agancies claim that AMD before Polaris rollout have dragged some marketshare from Nvidia. And you know what is the funniest there? It was time, when Nvidia have released GTX 1070, and 1080 to the market.

Lets wait for Q3 numbers. Will see how this time it has changed one way or another.

And yet you've still forgot to post actual data.
Sorry, but your word doesn't mean much to me.
 
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And yet you've still forgot to post actual data.
Sorry, but your word doesn't mean much to me.
Could that possibly mean that he has no actual data? Could it mean that his "inside sources" are only inside his own head? Could it mean that when he occasionally boasts that "see - I was right" it's purely luck - throw enough **** and some will stick?
 
Could that possibly mean that he has no actual data? Could it mean that his "inside sources" are only inside his own head? Could it mean that when he occasionally boasts that "see - I was right" it's purely luck - throw enough **** and some will stick?

Exactamundo...

But I'm sure he'll come back with another few anonymous blog posts and a new attack vector...
 
No, but it would be nice if you'd include one or two supporting links in most of your posts.

To simply state that "Apple's eGPU box will have a soldered GPU" without any support isn't even worth acknowledging.
Do you even think that everything I post is about information from my sources? Or maybe I was responding to another post, with what I think it means to have multiple combinations of ID's in macOS Sierra?
And yet you've still forgot to post actual data.
Sorry, but your word doesn't mean much to me.
I thought everybody has read that AMD gained marketshare in Q2. It was almost everywhere in the internet. Oh right, it was about AMD, so nobody on this forum cared about this. Why don't you for once do your reaserch?

And last bit.

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Even if koyoot doesn't come up with sources it doesn't make the Steam HW survey an accurate indicator of anything
 
Do you even think that everything I post is about information from my sources? Or maybe I was responding to another post, with what I think it means to have multiple combinations of ID's in macOS Sierra?

I thought everybody has read that AMD gained marketshare in Q2. It was almost everywhere in the internet. Oh right, it was about AMD, so nobody on this forum cared about this. Why don't you for once do your reaserch?

And last bit.

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Still no hard data, just speculation and silly juvenile picture...
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Even if koyoot doesn't come up with sources it doesn't make the Steam HW survey an accurate indicator of anything

It does. It shows that on the biggest gaming service that serves the biggest market of dgpu by far, nvidia is on top and the 1060 is way ahead of the 480.

But hey, i'm sure that you'll post some data sometime soon proving the reverse. Maybe some sale figure from East Timor or Liberia...
 
Still no hard data, just speculation and silly juvenile picture...
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It does. It shows that on the biggest gaming service that serves the biggest market of dgpu by far, nvidia is on top and the 1060 is way ahead of the 480.

But hey, i'm sure that you'll post some data sometime soon proving the reverse. Maybe some sale figure from East Timor or Liberia...
All it really shows is what's being used on steam to play games which is why its not really quoted much on gaming websites. I do think nVidia is more popular in general because AMD has brown every opportunity to turn them selves around in the last almost decade nVidia had the mind share.
 
What am I looking at? What's that supposed to mean?
It means that there are coming two GPUs, with higher price tag, and presumably performance levels than Polaris GPUs.

Polaris GPUs are those with C98XXX, C95XXX numbers.
 
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Right, but how do you link numbers to GPUs? How do you know they're Polaris and even from AMD? Googling those numbers doesn't return anything related to AMD or Polaris, or even GPUs.
 
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