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AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements

koyoot said:
I cannot give you any link, to confirm this, because this info is not fully official, but I have at least a proof, that you can deduct yourself:

Bristol Ridge GPU has VP9 and H.265/HEVC native decode, and encode, which was only only in Polaris lineup. Performance of Bristol Ridge APU is 35-40% of RX 460, with 512 GCN cores, and without fast GDDR5 memory, and lower core clock, than RX 460.
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http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/178624/AMD-A12-9800-RADEON-R7-12-COMPUTE-CORES-4C-8G
 
If Polaris 12 is low end, where are the 2nd spin of P10 and P11? It's taking it's time.
Vega will be here soon. Will Polaris die by then and replaced by the cut down Vega 11 or will they co-exist at different tiers?
With P12, P11, P10, Vega 11 and Vega 10, won't it be overcrowded?
 
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Previous rumor on WTFTech site, was that Mac Pro was supposed to launch around may. It'll not be long from now, to find out if they have a clue, or are clueless...

From what I understand, AMD will show everything about Vega architecture, that they have not disclosed to this day.
 
They are usually clueless, just copy from other sources I guess.
I'm not so sure they'll spill out everything right now, still a few months to go but maybe they will. I hope they will.
Maybe in may Apple will announce the nMP but Skylake-W won't be out by then. Still, ES must be in their labs as we speak so an announcement seems possible.
 
You maybe asking why we have not seen any GPUs from AMD that are smaller or bigger than 896 GCN core design with Polaris 11 GPU.

All of the dies are consumed by Apple? Partially.
Radeon Pro 450 - 640 GCN cores.
Radeon Pro 455 - 768 GCN cores.
RX 460 - 896 GCN cores.
Radeon Pro 460 - 1024 GCN cores.

AMD is semi-custom company. Each company can come to them, and request certain design to be made, and pay for its engineering. That is how Sony and Microsoft get the custom APUs for the consoles.

Apple came to AMD with request for designing small GPU enough to be fit in 35W TDP envelope. And they have payed for its development.

Apple is big enough customer, that they were able to request process syncing between Samsung and GloFo. The orders were big enough to get the best possible deal, for each of the companies that were participating here: Samsung, GloFo, AMD, Apple. I do not know yet, if Polaris 10 design was also payed by Apple. Polaris 11 design certainly was payed by Apple.
 
koyoot said:
Apple came to AMD with request for designing small GPU enough to be fit in 35W TDP envelope. And they have payed for its development.
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Do you have any sources for this? Why would Apple pay for the entirety of a GPU in which they only use a fraction of the end result? Apple may pay extra to get first dibs at the uncut dies (like they did for Tonga in the m395X) but to say they paid for the development of Polaris 11 seems a bit ridiculous. Console makers can do this because they ship tons of volume and will be the only consumer of said chip, but AMD puts Polaris 11 dies in kinds of things.
 
I'd bet it was, at least in part. P10 is similar enough to P11 architecturally to have been developed in tandem.
Apple would get supply preference but AMD would also provide chips to OEMs for regular cards.
And since AMD had nothing until Vega, it's a win-win situation.
But I guess this is all speculation.
 
Stacc said:
Do you have any sources for this? Why would Apple pay for the entirety of a GPU in which they only use a fraction of the end result? Apple may pay extra to get first dibs at the uncut dies (like they did for Tonga in the m395X) but to say they paid for the development of Polaris 11 seems a bit ridiculous. Console makers can do this because they ship tons of volume and will be the only consumer of said chip, but AMD puts Polaris 11 dies in kinds of things.
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That is how Semi-Custom market works ;).

I cannot disclose any sources for this. However...
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/04/17/semiaccurate-right-apples-foundry-plans/
When SemiAccurate first broke the news about the fab sync that is happening on 14nm last August, the majority of the Internet news sites went out of their way to “prove” us wrong. They did the same for the first part of the story too, the main customer for this 14nm synced process.
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The link under the "main customer" words is leading us to:
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/07/12/apple-has-their-own-fab/
Then we have this article: http://semiaccurate.com/2014/03/25/details-apples-gpu-emerge/
All of those articles are linked to one and the same thing ;).

In general, whole this process sync and technology is also linked to two other parts, that will become apparent in upcoming months/years: ARM chip in Apple Laptops, and AMD manufacturing the GPUs in Intel Fabs.


If I will get confirmation about this in upcoming weeks and months, and in the context of Polaris 10 I will give a note here, about this.
 
Today's event was not only about Ryzen CPUs, but also AMD Vega. 3 hour event, and presentation was almost 3 hours.

Even logo we have, already:
AMD-RTG-VEGA-LOGO.jpg

And its Q2/2017.
 
koyoot said:
http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-radeon-500-series-launching-may/

This is WTFTech, so prepare mountain of salt, however... the leaked scores for RX 580 from AotS are basically on par with GTX 1070/GTX 980 Ti, but those are rumored to be... overclocked Polaris 10 chips, with similar power consumption.
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There may be an overclocked Polaris 10 in the 500 series, but I expect that the RX 580/590 to be Vega 11. Vega 10 will hold whatever is the modern Fury designation.
 
Stacc said:
There may be an overclocked Polaris 10 in the 500 series, but I expect that the RX 580/590 to be Vega 11. Vega 10 will hold whatever is the modern Fury designation.
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https://videocardz.com/66239/what-we-know-about-vega

First up, Radeon RX 500 series are said to include Polaris rebrands and new GPUs based on Vega architecture. It is also said that Radeon RX 580 and 570 might be rebranded straight from RX 400 series. This, however, was not decided yet, but AMD has different plans for RX 590+ series.

The biggest star of Radeon RX 500 series is not Vega 10. If everything goes as planned Vega 11 will be as popular as GTX 1070 is for NVIDIA. This sweet spot GPU will likely take the vacant spot of x90 series as RX 590.
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RX 580 scores are 15% higher than fastest RX 480 in AOTS. The GPU in question is most likely Polaris 10XT2.

We were told it should cost between 599 to 699 USD, but yet again, no final decisions were made and I’m certain that upcoming launch of GTX 1080 Ti will be a huge factor for this decision.
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So it is targeted at GTX 1080 Ti in performance, while costing somewhat similar to GTX 1080.
So the Vega 11 will most likely be around GTX 1080.

Want to know what I "think" about it?
Vega 11 - 399$
Vega 10 - 649$.

IMO both GPUs will have HBM2. High Bandwidth Cache controller is inherent part of Vega architecture. Using anything else than HBM2 destroys whole architecture.

P.S. That is actually the reason why AMD decided to get 2048 bit controller in Vega. To save production costs, and yet provide enough bandwidth to feed the GPUs.

P.S. Best Part: Raja at CES have said that he would love to offer this year 4K gaming experience for under 1000$ price tag. If you will think about it: Ryzen 7 1700+ Vega 11+ B350 MoBo cost can be as low as 799$. All you need now is case, SSD, and RAM to fit in this.
 
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Radeon Vega today will be showcased. I suggest watching today's stream, or paying attention to information.

Vega will have VERY good performance/dollar ratio, just like Ryzen.
 
Watching the AMD Capsaicin event, and the VR presentations makes me feel like I am in mid 90's and first 3D games being released.

Kinda tells you where we are in the VR world.
 
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