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AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements

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In fact, they just make the same mistake as the 6,1. Down volt / clock the GPU to fit in the thermal envelope. This GPU should be good up to 13.1 TFLOPS, but only can deliver up to 11 TFLOPS on the iMac Pro. A guarantee 20% penalty even before the GPU launch just because "form over function". Really bad idea.
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And yet it will still sell. 11TFLOPS in such a sleek package! You guys can see the marketing already. Apple must be reasonably confident that level of performance is acceptable for the target market.

Imagine an alternate reality in which the town hall meeting went like this:

- we're sorry nMP has gone so long without updates, but we have something really great
- bla bla updated CPUs
- replacing d700s on high end is dual vegas, downclocked to 10 TFLOPS each

Hmmm... official eGPU support and 20 TFLOPS in a cylinder. I would've bought one.
 
There are two SKUs for consumer market in RX Vega lineup, at least initially.

Full blown water cooled, limited edition GPU.
"Normal version" air cooled GPU.

There will be Vega Nano, with 6 pin connector, and 150W TDP, and around 10 TFLOPs compute power. Engineering samples of this GPU are already floating around.
 
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There is mobile version of Vega GPU with 360 GB/s HBM2 bandwidth, 8.2 TFLOPs of compute power, and 1000 MHz core clock(4096 GCN core).

Its Device ID is 6863:00.
 
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From what has been told to me, RX Vega Nano will be in performance in gaming between GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti, much closer to the Ti version, rather than the 1080. Using the new features from the hardware(Primitive Shaders, and memory management) possibly will help with tying with GTX 1080 Ti.

Also, the rumors about terrific price/performance ratio on Vega are true ;). Yes, the GPU, Vega FE, consumes under load around 280W, but will be much faster than OC'ed, aftermarket versions of GTX 1080 Ti, that consume over 300W under load.
So not only it will be faster, but also more efficient, and will have better price/perfomance ratio :).

Well, Raja's plan at first was to offer more efficient product, to gain mindshare about efficiency, and he designed the GPU to go to 225W TDP power envelope, and deliver 12 TFLOPs of compute power.

However management in AMD decided to push the GPUs to gain mindshare not only about efficiency, but also performance. The end result is "not-AMD-from-the-past-like", delivering everywhere. Price, performance, efficiency, build quality.

P.S. There is upcoming Water Block for Vega Nano :), for custom loops. I think I may build my first, custom loop, with this GPU, and Ryzen 7 1700 :).

Damn, this year is great for technology enthusiasts. I have not been so excited about the hardware this year, as I am today.
 
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It is going to be harder and harder with mining on the GPUs, because of the complexity of the algorithms.

I think within 3-4 months, you will be required to use special Chips for mining rather than GPUs.

And fact that AMD and Nvidia are going to release mining dedicated GPUs will help a lot.
 
I think GloFo is going to increase 14nm capacity only by 20% (machine replacement in current line).
 
koyoot said:
It is going to be harder and harder with mining on the GPUs, because of the complexity of the algorithms.
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On the surface this is true but the consequence of it is they just build more rigs. That's exactly what happened. Then when one coin becomes too hard they shift their rigs to another coin. Hardware availability and price is impacted and can only be avoided if the blockchains had given each miner a hashing limit or if AMD/Nvidia created mining only cards.

Nvidia is trying to do that now, but if their mining cards sell very high they are taking silicon away from the creatives and gamers.

I have also just seen that Sapphire is releasing RX 470 Mining Edition - same card as last year with no video output and extra $100 cost.

We end up going back to the original point that resources are limited. They are using all their silicon to meet the needs of people making computer money.

If miners had a brain and they would use older R9 200/300 cards that are equally or better in hashing power than RX series and can be undervolted really well. Would help creatives and gamers who want to sell their old cards for a good price so they can upgrade.
 
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Someone from AMD Reddit ordered Water Cooled Frontier Edition of Vega GPU.

Stay tuned for benchmarks.
 
It seems some of the mining cards might use chips with bad display controllers and others repurpose old inventory.
 
There is also one mining RX 560 that has one DVI port.

Maybe ultra low budget gamers will be able to grab these later, with the rest dumped for multi GPU.
 
It's release day so reviews are coming.

13 Tflops is impressive for a single GPU chip. But for a single card product the Frontier Edition is not that much faster than a 295x2 and slower than the Radeon Pro Duo. You can get these cards 4x and 2x cheaper respectively. I have the 295x2 undervolted and overclocked at just 350W.
 
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It's release day so reviews are coming.

13 Tflops is impressive for a single GPU chip. But for a single card product the Frontier Edition is not that much faster than a 295x2 and slower than the Radeon Pro Duo. You can get these cards 4x and 2x cheaper respectively. I have the 295x2 undervolted and overclocked at just 350W.
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There will be Vega Duo, with around 20 TFLOPs FP32 and 300W TDP.
 
koyoot said:
https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/compute...d-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-graphics-cards

999$ for air cooled version. 1499$ for water cooled version.
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Radeon Vega Frontier Edition Availability

Radeon Vega Frontier Edition graphics cards are available from etailers in select regions today with an SEP of $999 USD for the air-cooled edition. The water-cooled edition is expected to launch in Q3 with an SEP of $1499.
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https://videocardz.com/press-release/amd-launches-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-for-999

Well, it appears I had correct information, but I thought it was wrong information about pricing of those GPUs. o_O
 
Apparently, the AMD driver team(80% of whole driver team) was working on Vega drivers over past 6 months. And the drivers are not ready to be not even finalized, but even launched as beta, in normal circumstances. Vega architecture is THAT different from previous GCN architectures.
 
I heard of these mining cards, but let me make sure I'm understanding the situation:

- stripped features (no display output = good)
- minor performance increase (Samsung RAM overclocked 2-3 MHz higher = good but meh)
- same price????
 
Flint Ironstag said:
I heard of these mining cards, but let me make sure I'm understanding the situation:

- stripped features (no display output = good)
- minor performance increase (Samsung RAM overclocked 2-3 MHz higher = good but meh)
- same price????
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Lower price, and 90/180 day warranty.
 
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