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AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements

Strelok said:
You’re thinking of the R9 290X. I don’t think they are as bad anymore, but it really depends on the power consumption. Keep in mind that a card running at 90C and using 150W will heat up your room less than a card running at 60C but using 300W. Also there are always aftermarket cards if you are concerned about a hot GPU, although they won’t help keep your room cool.
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Ah! I found the name of the card just as you posted this (you can see the funny video that I found in my original post :p). Thanks so much. Good to know that things might not be as bad anymore. That card came out what, four years ago?

You also taught me something about GPU temp vs power consumption, and how both affect heat output. Thank you.

The build I was considering was a mini-ITX form factor and my concern was thermal throttling due to how compact everything will be in the case. I'll keep an eye on the benchmarks going forward, especially once we see the top-end Vega release as well as 3rd party designs.
 
Strelok said:
What happened to the memory clocks when it was downclocked? The one review I read said the memory would basically downclock to half the speed anytime the core clock or voltages were altered in any way.
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Yes, it has downclocked. Nobody currently knows why it is behaving like this.

Edit. Not exactly half the speed. It was running at 800 MHz, which translated to 1.6 Gbps, and around 409 GB/s.
v0lume4 said:
I've considered an AMD build (Ryzen + Vega) at some point in the future. For those of you that have purchased recent AMD GPU's (or better yet, those of you who have the Vega FE card), I am curious as to whether AMD graphics cards are still run as hot as furnaces? My perspective of AMD cards could be entirely wrong as I typically keep up with nVidia cards, but don't AMD cards typically run hot? Or is it just that one card that AMD released that gave their GPU's a bad rep (the name of that card escapes me)*?

*edit - The card I was referring to is the R9-290X from years ago
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The ONLY AMD GPU that has been running hot was R9 290X, and destroyed the general perception of this GPU brand.

AMD Hawaii chip overall was best design from them, over time, able to tie with GTX 980 Ti in most compute scenarios, and in new games is on par with that GPU.

Fury X for example was running at maximum 65 degrees C. Fury Nano basically topped out at 75 C.
 
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The build I was considering was a mini-ITX form factor and my concern was thermal throttling due to how compact everything will be in the case.
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I build a mini-ITX little monster and initially went with the RX480. This card runs very hot, even with optimal fan configurations. I ended up replacing it right away with GTX 1070 hybrid. This way both the CPU and GPU are liquid cooled.

It's a beautiful machine. In the end, I decided I'll be selling it. Just missed an iMac too much and Apple finally updated the line, so I went for it. :D
 
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iMi said:
I build a mini-ITX little monster and initially went with the RX480. This card runs very hot, even with optimal fan configurations. I ended up replacing it right away with GTX 1070 hybrid. This way both the CPU and GPU are liquid cooled.

It's a beautiful machine. In the end, I decided I'll be selling it. Just missed an iMac too much and Apple finally updated the line, so I went for it. :D
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Sweet mother of god.

mITX build, liquid cooled <3.
 
v0lume4 said:
Ah! I found the name of the card just as you posted this (you can see the funny video that I found in my original post :p). Thanks so much. Good to know that things might not be as bad anymore. That card came out what, four years ago?

You also taught me something about GPU temp vs power consumption, and how both affect heat output. Thank you.

The build I was considering was a mini-ITX form factor and my concern was thermal throttling due to how compact everything will be in the case. I'll keep an eye on the benchmarks going forward, especially once we see the top-end Vega release as well as 3rd party designs.
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They have some newer cases that have separate compartments for the GPU, like the Node 202. I would check those out if you want to use a high performance GPU.
 
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iMi said:
AIO liquid cooling on both CPU/GPU. I just didn't have the patience or skill to build a custom loop, especially in such a small case. The NTZX Manta is fantastic though. There are a couple of bad pictures in this thread. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/high-end-custom-pc.2051361/
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What is the noise level and temperatures under load?

Sorry for off-topic. My next build:

Raijintek Metis Plus
Corsair SF450 SFX PSU,
ASRock AB350 Gaming ITX MoBo
Crucial MX300 525 GB SSD
16 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3466 MHz
Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi/Noctua NH-U12S AM4
Raven Ridge APU(highest end model).

And that is all what will be in the case ;)

This will be test build, and will see, maybe this will be my first AMD build that I will actually use in my life. Previous AMD builds were never interesting, as I have always used Intel and Nvidia combo's.
 
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Strelok said:
You’re thinking of the R9 290X.
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It was the cooling system that was noisy. AMD and their board partners aren't too good at this.

I have a 295x2 in one system. It's liquid cooled so the card is very quiet, it's the fan on the radiator that makes noise. It runs cooler than the pair of GTX 1070 I have in another system. But the Geforce Founder's Edition cards are super quiet.

The RX 580 I have runs hotter and louder than all the above.
 
koyoot said:
What is the noise level and temperatures under load?

Sorry for off-topic. My next build:

Raijintek Metis Plus
Corsair SF450 SFX PSU,
ASRock AB350 Gaming ITX MoBo
Crucial MX300 525 GB SSD
16 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3466 MHz
Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi/Noctua NH-U12S AM4
Raven Ridge APU(highest end model).

And that is all what will be in the case ;)

This will be test build, and will see, maybe this will be my first AMD build that I will actually use in my life. Previous AMD builds were never interesting, as I have always used Intel and Nvidia combo's.
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Noise isn't too bad. I haven't measured the sound levels but it does seem to run relatively quiet. The noise was noticeably higher with the RX 480. It was a reference card, so no surprise there. I really wanted to do a Ryzen build, but at the time we didn't have any mini-ITX motherboards that were compatible. Compact size was important to me.
 
Squuiid said:
True. Have also noted that it's far quieter than a 1070FE under load. Does this hold true?
I know you own both cards.
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I find the 1070E to be the quietest desktop cards I ever owned (excluding ancient times), under load. The 980 I had prior had a coil whine and intermittent loud blower (the famous start up fan problem in cMP)

The RX 580 I have has two large fans so from design perspective it is louder. But the reference RX series is little quieter as we see in the chart above.

I am still waiting to find out if the Powercolor Devil Box is fully compatible with High Sierra before I can test as eGPU.
 
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A good old (higher end) APU video for newbies while we wait for Bristol Ridge and Raven Ridge.

If Mantle is mentioned, just think Vulkan now. It normally means DX12 (W10) is also supported now.

 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
It was the cooling system that was noisy. AMD and their board partners aren't too good at this.

I have a 295x2 in one system. It's liquid cooled so the card is very quiet, it's the fan on the radiator that makes noise. It runs cooler than the pair of GTX 1070 I have in another system. But the Geforce Founder's Edition cards are super quiet.

The RX 580 I have runs hotter and louder than all the above.
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Yeah but that doesn’t affect the heat output, which is what the person I was quoting asked for :). Again, it doesn’t matter how hot the card runs, that’s an issue of heat transfer, but how much it consumes in total. Ideally you want a cooler card though, watercooling is great for transferring the heat to the water/the room. The only issue with watercooling is that the water will also take a while to cool back down, so idle temps end up being higher.
 
Strelok said:
Yeah but that doesn’t affect the heat output, which is what the person I was quoting asked for :). Again, it doesn’t matter how hot the card runs, that’s an issue of heat transfer, but how much it consumes in total. Ideally you want a cooler card though, watercooling is great for transferring the heat to the water/the room. The only issue with watercooling is that the water will also take a while to cool back down, so idle temps end up being higher.
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Depends on how efficient the loop and radiator is. The 295x2 cools down quickly, probably because with this card the fan is constant not variable.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
Depends on how efficient the loop and radiator is. The 295x2 cools down quickly, probably because with this card the fan is constant not variable.
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That only delays it. If you have a gigantic reservoir then you’ll never hit that point unless you run 24/7. The point I tried to make is that even though your card might cool down quickly, that heat is still being dumped in the room.
 
https://forum.beyond3d.com/posts/1990840/

So the words, that Vega is actually DX12.1 FL Tier 3, and has feature parity with Nvidia GPUs, was true(well, not exactly. Pascal is still in some cases Tier 2, and lacks compute throughput of the cores, compared to Vega and GCN overall, and will not have HBCC).
 
And yet barely match or is outright beaten by a one year old GPU that cost less and consume way less power...
 
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