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Aging inhibiting drugs have fried Ellison's brain because that is some bats*%&t crazy premise.
Oracle has wanted to be the "one stop shop" for Big Enterprise. Hence, trying to fashion themselves into IBM of the 80-90s. Buying Sun .. sure. Buying mySQL ( as that created a footprint in enterprise data centers ) ... sure.
VR ... games? Please.
Now Oracle "outsourcing" a solution for their SPARC CPUs to AMD .... that makes sense. No need to buy the company but a custom x86 highly tuned to DB and enterprise workloads ... yeah. Somewhat customized GPGPU that tears through bitmap index scane? Yep. Major cash injection into AMD to get them to take on that workload. Sure ( don't see how they could expand their coverage without that . )
AR ... not. VR ... not. There are little to no synergies there at all. Oracle highly likely would be completely bad at being a basic component supplier. No way AMD survives as a VR/AR system vendor.
Doesn't a buyout trigger the loss of AMD's x86 license? That's a heck of a poison pill to swallow.
How would that be possible if it leaves Intel with a formal x86 monopoly?
When Intel licensed their patented x86 technology to AMD, it included a clause that the x86 license would end if AMD changed hands.
I don't understand why you think it is impossible for a company to have a monopoly on their own patented technology. That's quite literally the intended purpose of a patent.
I don't think the regulators should approve such a deal being x86 such a central technology.
Heh, maybe my "conversation partner" was right after all about the brand reset with new naming scheme:
Post from RX 480 thread
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Still doesn't change the contract between them. Intel wouldn't be in breach of contract but AMD would, which mean Intel get to continue to use x86_64 while AMD lose x86.
Yes they would because it's a cross licensing agreement. Intel licences their x86 IP and AMD licences their x64. The agreement on IP sharing is void if either company changes hands it's one of the big reasons why AMD that has been struggling for years hasn't been bought.
In any case it wouldn't be all that dramatic for Intel. x64 is only an extension on top of the x86 base and could be replaced in future products. AMD on the other hand would lose the whole foundation of compatibility and would have to start anew from scratch, which is why they have no real interested buyer, especially of their CPU manuf. But I can see someone buying them for their GPUs and other IP and droping out of the mainstream CPU business.
AMD is fighting a war on two front against enemies that are bigger and better equiped and funded than they are.
They tried x64 with ia 64 and it didn't work and now that 32 bit has gone the way of the dodo it'd Intel and give AMD a huge advantage.
I must say that the new naming (numbering) scheme shows a lack of imagination.
I understand that it is easier for people to try and match "comparable" series but really?! Couldn't they come up with something less obvious?
I understand that it is easier for people to try and match "comparable" series but really?! Couldn't they come up with something less obvious?
Not really. As i said x64 is an extension of x86. Even in 64bit you mostly use x86 micro code on your cpu. Without x86 Amd would have to reinvent about 80% of the wheel... Why do you think they made the deal with intel in the first place.
FRAND is only applicable to patents and or licenses that are highly key to the industry in question.