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The good news in that rumor is that they are pricing it as a premium product. Hopefully that means premium performance.
 
I hope for the sake of people who own AMD stock that Zen isn't the big yawn that Polaris is.

Performance-wise I prefer Nvidia and that's what I own.

But the overall market is a different beast, and AMD has been clawing back market share in the low and mid end range. The result is that AMD stock made me a ton of money. Sold it in December, well after Polaris was released and well-known.

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Its gotta suck to be a motherboard manufacturer. In the enthusiast space you are only competing on who has the shiniest LEDs.
There is good news, however. It appears that the best motherboards for Ryzen platform will cost between 150 and 200$.

This is biggest clue for the end price of Ryzen CPUs we have had till this day ;).

P.S. One of the rumors floating around, after todays presentation: AMD truly wants to offer 4K gaming setup for under 1000$ price point.
 
I would imagine that by now the LED fetiche would have been gone but hey... boys will be boys!!
If there will be one in Mini-ITX form factor: sign me in :).

NZXT has pretty cool looking fans with LEDs included :)

One more thing:
AMD said:
Revealed details of our upcoming “Zen”-based processor architecture, go-to-market strategy and performance. (AMD Ryzen™ processor for desktops is expected to ship in early March 2017. “Naples” processor for servers is expected to ship in Q2 2017)
 
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Its gotta suck to be a motherboard manufacturer. In the enthusiast space you are only competing on who has the shiniest LEDs.
I don't care about LEDs.

I care about things like:

- 10GbE
- 2x M.2 22110 slots
- Thunderbolt
- Long life capacitors
- Best RAM clock support
- Layout
- Number of SATA (Express) ports
- "Optimal" expansion slot configuration
 
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I suspect a six core will come later or in the next revision. Though, and this is just me talking, but I'm guessing the 8c/8t and the 8c/8t are similar to Intel's i5 and i7?
 
Techpowerup made a note from "reports"(rumors) floating around.

If information from french Magazine(CPC) has any truth in it, and they have had/seen Engineering samples, there is 6C/12T CPU, already going through validation, and it has 65W TDP.
 
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https://twitter.com/CPCHardware/status/826829044402552833
AMD valide bien actuellement des Ryzen 6C/12T @ 3.3 GHz base mais PAS de 8C/8T. Le but est clairement de recycler les dies 8C défaillants.

In essence for non French-language speakers: AMD is validating the 6C/12T CPU, but not the 8C/8T ones. Its all about getting as high number of failed 8C dies, as possible.
 
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I don't care about LEDs.

I care about things like:

- 10GbE
- 2x M.2 22110 slots
- Thunderbolt
- Long life capacitors
- Best RAM clock support
- Layout
- Number of SATA (Express) ports
- "Optimal" expansion slot configuration
Skylake or kaby lake does not have the pci-e for that!
amd zen maybe 10GBE may have to share with m.2 slot 2
 
koyoot, maybe they can still use the good cores in a damaged package.

Joe, depends on what you are considering. Desktop parts, -X or -W? The CPU might not have enough lanes but the PCH will handle it. But then you have the DMI bottleneck. But it's possible, might not be perfect but possible it is.
 
CPCHardware claims that the only CPU with the same amount of threads as cores, at the beginning is the 4C/4T setup.

Manuel, I am not saying that anyone is right or wrong. I just look at the information from the people who actually have had any form of contact with the actual Ryzen Silicon.

Zeppelin design is actually pretty modular design and it can scale from 2C/2T to 8C/16T on single die, without any problem.
 
Also, there is only ONE design. So if you will see 2C/4T, be sure that there are 8 CPU cores, and 6 of them had failed validation. Each die costs AMD precisely 18$ at this point.

AMD wants to sell as much dies as possible. They will charge more than 450$ for top end SKU, however, IMO maximum price we will see is 500$. But that is just, and only, my personal opinion.

It appears also, that not in every situation Ryzen will be as good as hyped by AMD. Average IPC is Broadwell level. In compute scenarios without AVX instruction - its actually faster. In games, it will be EXTREMELY competitive with the best Intel offers. However there are some cases where the IPC is on Ivy Bridge levels.
 
One more clue, that there will be 6 core CPU:
io-tech.fi said:
We have confirmed from our sources that AMD’s upcoming Ryzen processor can be technically configured as 6-core model. It is possible to disable each CPU core separately together with dedicated L2 cache from CCX without affecting shared L3 cache. Possible L3 cache configurations are 1/1 (8 MB), 1/2 (4 MB) or completely disabled. Basic rule is that both CCXs should have similar CPU core and L3 configuration for example both should have 3 cores and full 8 MB L3 cache enabled (6C & 16 MB L3).

We believe AMD will launch 6-core model of Ryzen CPU. If they don’t, it will be due other reasons than technical limitation of CCX.
 
So maybe it is not possible to completely disable 1 CCX, but it would seem unlikely.
 
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I think it is time to work on asymmetric multiprocessing. It would be great to be able to sell 8C/15T CPUs, for example.
 
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I think it is time to work on asymmetric multiprocessing. It would be great to be able to sell 8C/15T CPUs, for example.
That's not what asymmetric multiprocessing is.

And in an SMT processor, the vast majority of the transistors are shared between the two threads - just the register files and some other state are unique to the thread. It's unlikely that there would be very many chips where all of the shared transistors are fine, but there are errors in the small amount of per-thread state.
 
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