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koyoot

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Lately I have started to admire non-OEM coolers. Two best coolers that I use in my company are Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3 and Cryorig C1.


One more thing. It appears that there is a very good reason why highest end Ryzen CPU has only 499$ price tag. There will be one or two more, higher end CPUs in future. With higher price tag, and higher core clocks.

What do you think about possibility of 125W 4.0 GHz base clock CPU, with 8 cores and 16 threads?
 

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Lately I have started to admire non-OEM coolers. Two best coolers that I use in my company are Be Quiet! Dark Rock 3 and Cryorig C1.


One more thing. It appears that there is a very good reason why highest end Ryzen CPU has only 499$ price tag. There will be one or two more, higher end CPUs in future. With higher price tag, and higher core clocks.

What do you think about possibility of 125W 4.0 GHz base clock CPU, with 8 cores and 16 threads?
AMD is working on a server / workstation multi cpu ver of rezen as well. Will they have higher end 1 cpu systems with ECC / more pci-e / more cores for 1 socket?
 

koyoot

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AMD is working on a server / workstation multi cpu ver of rezen as well. Will they have higher end 1 cpu systems with ECC / more pci-e / more cores for 1 socket?
I don't think so. As far as I know server 16C/32T Chip is 125W with 3.0 GHz base, 3.3 Turbo, at this moment. Nothing more about the core clocks, for this chip. There will be also 24 core, and 32 core versions of it, but with higher TDP.
 

koyoot

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One more thing about Naples:
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Enjoy.
 

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Isn't videocardz about as reliable a source as wfctech?
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OEM cooler = free paper weight with each purchase.
I have a bunch of them from over the last 20 years. I've spray painted them in metallic paint and clearcoated them. They are beautiful paperweights in every regard. I've got an old Zalman copper one that I turned into a paper weight.
 

koyoot

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Isn't videocardz about as reliable a source as wfctech?
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I have a bunch of them from over the last 20 years. I've spray painted them in metallic paint and clearcoated them. They are beautiful paperweights in every regard. I've got an old Zalman copper one that I turned into a paper weight.
They were, lately WhyCry has started to be more "reliable" than WTFTech.

They can be trusted. WTFTech cannot.

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I would like to point something out...
AMD-Ryzen-3DMark-Physics-Score.png

ZD3301BBM6IF4 is 65W, 6C/12T CPU. According to pricing that WTFTech compiled, it will cost around 229$, if they did not made any mistake with their conversion from Yuan, to USD.
And it offers the same level of performance, as Intel 429$ CPU(6800K).

That is mind blowing value...
 
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If it's true, it is indeed. I'm more blown away by the ZD3406BAM88F4, which I believe is the Ryzen 1800X. I believe the currency conversion from yuan to USD, and taking in mild discounts by retailers, is around $560, which is a steal compared to the 6950X by Intel. That's about a third of the price of what Intel charges.

I still can't wrap my head around how the processor is capable of realizing the cooling potential and go beyond what the Turbo Clock offers. Either way, if it's as good or better than Intel at much, much lower prices, we can possibly see Intel stop titillating themselves with consumer money and get cracking again.
 

koyoot

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If it's true, it is indeed. I'm more blown away by the ZD3406BAM88F4, which I believe is the Ryzen 1800X. I believe the currency conversion from yuan to USD, and taking in mild discounts by retailers, is around $560, which is a steal compared to the 6950X by Intel. That's about a third of the price of what Intel charges.

I still can't wrap my head around how the processor is capable of realizing the cooling potential and go beyond what the Turbo Clock offers.
Nope, its not 1800X. Its 1700X ;). Its also worth noting, that AM4 motherboard, with B350 Chipset will cost as low as 69$.

If you will be able to get MoBo + 6C/12T CPU for under 300$, that is even more mind blowing, than we have thought.

If this turn out to be true, this is possibly first proper execution of product launch AMD has done in recent decade.
 

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Nope, its not 1800X. Its 1700X ;). Its also worth noting, that AM4 motherboard, with B350 Chipset will cost as low as 69$.

If you will be able to get MoBo + 6C/12T CPU for under 300$, that is even more mind blowing, than we have thought.

If this turn out to be true, this is possibly first proper execution of product launch AMD has done in recent decade.
Ah. My bad then. I didn't realize the 'serial' was repeating itself. Is that for a bare bones basic mobo or something feature laden? I imagine the third parties like Gigabyte or Asus will sink their claws in and add a boatload of features.

Though I'd think better cooling and power delivery would be a huge concern to get consumers the biggest bang for their buck.
 

koyoot

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Ah. My bad then. I didn't realize the 'serial' was repeating itself. Is that for a bare bones basic mobo or something feature laden? I imagine the third parties like Gigabyte or Asus will sink their claws in and add a boatload of features.

Though I'd think better cooling and power delivery would be a huge concern to get consumers the biggest bang for their buck.
WTFTech suggests that Asus B350 Prime-A will cost 69$. If they are correct(IF!), its a killer platform in terms of value. Prime brand from Asus, is not bad at all.
 

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Passmark scores normalized for 3.4 GHz.

Wat? o_O According to this, Ryzen IPC is slightly higher than Kaby Lake o_O
 
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koyoot

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Next generation Zen CCX appears to have 6 cores, rather than only 4.
 

koyoot

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Why? 12 core single CPU, 48 core Naples replacement. 6 core APU.

I have written this before, but I will repeat. There are two versions of Zen+ tested. Either much wider cores, that are going to be fatter than Skylake/Kaby Lake architecture ones, in terms of everything that is required for maximum throughput, or the same design, but with 4T for each core. Currently, much easier implementation is the first one.
To sum it up, expect: beefier cores, 6 core CCX, AVX512 in Zen+. I do not, nor will theorize on core clocks, because its way too early.
 
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