AMD Discussion

[cube]

Now we are almost talking, but it seems it does not have SATA Express:

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...ows-off-aorus-am4-motherboard-for-ryzen-cpus/
[doublepost=1487255542][/doublepost]This 370 has one U.2:

https://ocaholic.ch/modules/news/article.php?storyid=16088

 

[Stacc]

Now we are almost talking, but it seems it does not have SATA Express:

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...ows-off-aorus-am4-motherboard-for-ryzen-cpus/
[doublepost=1487255542][/doublepost]This 370 has one U.2:

https://ocaholic.ch/modules/news/article.php?storyid=16088

Why would an Apple system need SATA Express? The only systems Apple sells with SATA drives are the iMac and mac mini. I suspect those will be PCIe SSD only in the next revision.

 

[cube]

Why would an Apple system need SATA Express? The only systems Apple sells with SATA drives are the iMac and mac mini. I suspect those will be PCIe SSD only in the next revision.

What do ATX motherboards have to do with Apple?

 

[Jack Burton]

Well...
https://www.techpowerup.com/230517/no-windows-7-drivers-for-amd-ryzen

Same thing with Kaby Lake (which keeps autocorrecting to Baby Lake, haha). Official Win 10 support only.

 

[cube]

If AMD will keep on selling FX for a while, will they re-release them with the AM4-compatible Wraith?

 

[koyoot]

IPC is dependent on workload. Sometimes it will be on par with Ivy Bridge-E, but in 90% of workloads it will be on Broadwell level, or even, like in this case, higher.

 

[Synchro3]

Same thing with Kaby Lake (which keeps autocorrecting to Baby Lake, haha). Official Win 10 support only.

My new Kaby Lake computer runs fine with Windows 7.

I should add that ASRock has released a VGA driver v.4565 for the Intel Kaby Lake iGPU: http://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITXac/index.de.asp#osW764

 

[koyoot]

There is even 8C/16T 1.8 GHz, mobile 45W TDP CPU in the wild .

 

[cube]

There is even 8C/16T 1.8 GHz, mobile 45W TDP CPU in the wild .

Too low clock.

 

[Jack Burton]

My new Kaby Lake computer runs fine with Windows 7.

I should add that ASRock has released a VGA driver v.4565 for the Intel Kaby Lake iGPU: http://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITXac/index.de.asp#osW764

neat. I've read a bunch of sites saying that MS only "officially" supports win10 on Kaby Lake. I wonder if you'll lose any features in Win 7, like the forth coming Optane support.

I'm not going back to win 7 anyway. 10's been great for me.

 

[koyoot]

If anyone wants to compare that 6 core CPU to the scores from broadwell-E, architecture, here are CPU-Z benchmarks in simple graph:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_6950x_6900k_6850k_and_6800k_processor_review,9.html

So basically the IPC is higher than Broadwell-E.

Second thing: The AMD CPU in question is Ryzen 7 1500, with 65(!)W TDP, and it will cost around 229$.

6850K costs over 600$. That is actually mind boggling.

One more thing to factor:
6850K 6C/12T 3.6/4.0 Single Thread: 1835 pts/Multi - 10872
6900K 8C/16T 3.2/3.7 Single Thread: 1784 pts/Multi - 12980
Ryzen 7 Eng Sample 6C/12T 3.3/3.7 Single: 1888 pts/Multi - 12644

So it appears that SMT in Ryzen is better than actually Intel's implementation.

I do not know about you guys, but... Choo choo!

 

[koyoot]

They say that this is 1800X.
8C/16T 3.6/4.0 GHz - 2185/17750
6950X 10C/20T 3.0/3.7- 1864/15907

As always, take this with GIGANTIC MOUNTAIN of salt.

I am reposting this, just for the record. Its just two more weeks...

 

[AidenShaw]

I am reposting this, just for the record. Its just two more weeks...

Just two more weeks until we can close this thread?

 

[Synchro3]

neat. I've read a bunch of sites saying that MS only "officially" supports win10 on Kaby Lake. I wonder if you'll lose any features in Win 7, like the forth coming Optane support.

I'm not going back to win 7 anyway. 10's been great for me.

Yes, my main system is also Windows 10. But I wanted to keep Windows 7 for legacy software.

 

[AidenShaw]

Yes, my main system is also Windows 10. But I wanted to keep Windows 7 for legacy software.

Just out of curiosity - what Win7 software do you have that doesn't run on Win10?

I have a bunch of WinNT4 and XP stuff that runs just fine on Win10.

 

[Synchro3]

E.g. Command and conquer first decade collection, Adobe CS 6, and others.

 

[koyoot]

The MoBo actually looks better than they were on photos. High quality stuff here.

What is more interesting is that the MoBo actually has SLI connector. Not bad.

 

[cube]

The MoBo actually looks better than they were on photos. High quality stuff here.

What is more interesting is that the MoBo actually has SLI connector. Not bad.

It seems it only has one M.2 slot. Pass.
[doublepost=1487380091][/doublepost]I think there's none so far with 2x 22110.

 

[Joe The Dragon]

It seems it only has one M.2 slot. Pass.
[doublepost=1487380091][/doublepost]I think there's none so far with 2x 22110.

Better then intel where that m.2 slot get's in own x4 from the cpu vs being stacked off the cpu.

 

[koyoot]

Do not get me wrong. I always associated AMD with bad quality Motherboards, I have no idea why .

This one is very high quality. I am wondering what we will see in small-form factor X300 MoBo's.

 

[koyoot]

 

[cube]

Do not get me wrong. I always associated AMD with bad quality Motherboards, I have no idea why .

I accepted buying a cheaper brand last time and some capacitors had to be replaced after one year.

That's not to say I did not have premium ones just burn previously, regardless of CPU vendor.

 

[koyoot]

 

[cube]

Yes, I don't want less than 3x full size PCIe slots.

 

[cube]

I accepted buying a cheaper brand last time and some capacitors had to be replaced after one year.

I also broke the plastic on the only USB 3.0 header arranging cables.