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Pentium and Celeron do not even have AVX.

Another Ubisoft victims and that's why the 200GE is faster in some applications (also because of AVX2, so I would imagine AMD's Excavator quad cores would win too).
 
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Ahem ;).

Dual EPYC 7601 has 7250 pts. in this test.
 
Ubisoft said they are looking at removing the AVX requirement.

I hope none of their games will need more than SSE3 just for their DRM.
 
This does not mean they have to make the games slower on CPUs that can support the newer ISAs.
 
The Zen+ dies are the same size as the original (increased spacing). This might also apply to Polaris 12nm.
 
I would still like to see a new version of CINEBENCH that tries to use AVX, AVX2, AVX-512.
 
I think it makes no sense to buy the 9900K when you can get the 9800X for about $100 more.
 
I am seeing this again at amazon.de:

#1: Ryzen 7 2700X
#2: FX-8350
#3: Ryzen 3 1200

The 1200 looks very competitive at 80 euro.
 
Does it cost AMD the same as before to make the Zen+ version of a CPU?
 
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cube said:
Does it cost AMD the same as before to make the Zen+ version of a CPU?
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No. Its currently cheaper to make, than 1st gen. Wafers cost I think under 5K whereas before they cost around 6.5k USD.
 
Game Mode was not created for Threadripper. When Ryzen first came out, some gaming benchmarks were disappointing because of inter-CCX latency, so GM was created to normally enjoy better performance when you don't need more than half the cores.

Here they basically tried only one light CPU usage game. It would be more interesting in the case where CPU usage is light but GPU load is high. Note that some graphs don't start at zero:

 
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Crysis (2007) might be better in Legacy mode even on Ryzen 1200. Maybe it would lose there because of the lack of SMT. It might also lose on Ryzen 3 and 5 if the GPU is very powerful.

There are no 2000 series quad cores consisting of 2 CCX (that is why the 2500X has half the L3 as the 1500X).
 
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