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robfoll

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Apple News was great, I subscribe to Apple News+ and now that is full of garbage ads too!
 

CooperBox

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Over the years I think I have at least tried every every Mac compatible web browser and ad blocking extension or app. While I admit it is possible to tweak Ghostery or uBlock to a satisfactory result there is no browser that works as well out of the box at blocking ads and trackers as Brave. I should add that you do not need to subscribe to Brave’s BAT (Basic Attention Token) option, you don’t need to subscribe to anything, not even the app itself. It will work on any device and syncs anonymously.

I have an acid test for a browser’s ad blocking capabilities. Simply go to mac-forums (https://www.mac-forums.com/) if you see a Google ad panel near the top above the forum index you are not using Brave. The Amazon one on the right cannot be removed but Brave is the ONLY browser I have tried that blocks that Google box advertising computers and parts/accessories. If your browser does not block that panel it won't be the only example.
I am using Firefox (always have done) on a 2014 MacBook Air and certainly do not have any Google ad on the site you mention. Firefox 115.15.0esr and uBlockOrigin - brilliant! Even YouTube plays without a hiccup with nil ads.
 
Despite being labelled a "Cheer Leader" for Brave browser anyone who reads all 6 pages of this thread will see that some people have gone to considerable lengths to rid themselves of ads and trackers.

And others have not.

The motivation for several to have stepped forward to respond to you, me amongst them, falls along two areas:
  • one, the notion that anyone getting online in 2024 just blithely does so without the most basic of protection (like human beings wearing clothing, or intimate, casual partners using a protective barrier), making a download-and-do-nothing-else approach — a reckless tack, frankly — the only rationale supporting your case argument for Brave; and
  • two, your uncritical promotion of a problematic browser (both under the bonnet and in the political adjacency of its founder) which has a history of being resource-hungry relative to other browsers, including other Chromium forks, and not conducive to user customization.

If a generic user is good with a generic Chromium UX and trusts solely in strangers for their online security, then more power to them.

Most users, however, know there’s just a little bit one needs to set up on their own before going off into the World Wide Sunset — not unlike wearing a coat when it gets cold outside. That you refer to this initial setup as “[going] to considerable lengths to rid themselves of ads and trackers” says more about you than it does of them.


All I have been suggesting is that Brave will block pretty much all ads and trackers on it's default settings. Yes, you can add a good VPN (I have) and up the Privacy & Security settings or Shields in Brave but that can be done if and when you find shortfalls in your expectations.

And in its default settings, it’s also a nice little crypto miner and it loves to phone home, including by default to Google properties, for analytics. Those two privacy holes from the very outset undermine any conjecture that Brave is some open-it-and-forget-everything-else fantasy of a browser.


Apart from that it requires no personal details, even for syncing across devices and is comparatively low on CPU resource demands.

I don’t remember a Mozilla browser — any browser — requiring personal details as a requirement to launch and run. Were that the case, then it is highly unlikely Tor would rely on the Mozilla code base for the Tor browser.

I am not a "fanboy" for brave nor am I in anyway employed by them it's simply that after 30+ years of Mac use it's the best free browser for todays hostile internet I've found.

If you’re doubling-down by making unqualified, advertorial claims like “it’s the best free browser”, then spoiler alert: you’re closer to what your quote alleges you probably are.

If you’re the kind of person who doesn’t want to do the basic internet-equivalent task of putting on clothes appropriate for the weather, then I guess Brave is your browser.

If you’re the kind of person who doesn’t want to think out their own privacy and online hygiene needs, then make a mad dash to Brave.

If you’re the kind of person who doesn’t think about big-picture, consequential impacts arising from decisions one makes at an individual level, then sure, why not: “shut up and take my download, Brave!”


For any and every number of valid reasons, others have expressed they aren’t as keen as you are for a browser which has its share of unaddressed (and possibly unresolvable, intractable) problems.
 

splifingate

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Over the years I think I have at least tried every every Mac compatible web browser and ad blocking extension or app. While I admit it is possible to tweak Ghostery or uBlock to a satisfactory result there is no browser that works as well out of the box at blocking ads and trackers as Brave. I should add that you do not need to subscribe to Brave’s BAT (Basic Attention Token) option, you don’t need to subscribe to anything, not even the app itself. It will work on any device and syncs anonymously.

I have an acid test for a browser’s ad blocking capabilities. Simply go to mac-forums (https://www.mac-forums.com/) if you see a Google ad panel near the top above the forum index you are not using Brave. The Amazon one on the right cannot be removed but Brave is the ONLY browser I have tried that blocks that Google box advertising computers and parts/accessories. If your browser does not block that panel it won't be the only example.
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