Simple solution, send a video as an attachment in an email? Use the features of a smartphone. MMS is dead easy to use but has been around on mobiles for donkey's years now, I think it's slower than sending an email too.
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Android... get it together!
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But that's not really a viable solution either as most email services also limit file sizes (25MB, give or take?) attached to emails. That's a few seconds of uncompressed video--just checked a video I took on my iPhone and it was 27MB and all of 18 sec long.
As previously mentioned, the problem with sending video via MMS isn't and Android problem--is would suck just as badly if sent from an iPhone to any other device as MMS--but rather the absence of a native, seamless solution along the lines of iMessage. Best method to share video is either via a third party app (BBM, Whatsapp, etc) or upload to the cloud and share using a link.
the problem is no none iOS device can tie into iMessage. That is Apple blocking access. So you want something that is impossible for others to tie into. It is not a fair comparision. It is not android's fault that it can has to use MMS requirements when sending a video to an iPhone or more so over the sms network. If you sent a MMS to an iPhone from an iPhone the same thing would happen. (aka do not use imessage to do it)
Why should he blame the carriers? Google already has servers for Hangouts and it continues to be a crippled and clunky messaging service.
Exactly.
Hangouts as far as I know is Google's Messenger app, it doesn't compress content, it is built-in and its not a PITA to get, I'm reading some uninformed and rather ridiculous statements in this thread I must say.
The point is that hangouts continues to be a separate app rather than integrated into the text messaging app. This integration really does change its functionality as you can have group messages that bridge both services, you can jump from device to device and receive both kinds of messages no matter what device you are using. Using my Windows devices the thing I miss most from Apple is probably this smooth integration that allows me to use one messaging system for ALL of my contacts no matter which device I'm on.
Google is really lagging behind in this department. (As is Microsoft, but they don't really have any messaging service with enough market share to worry about).
When is the last time you used hangouts? It's the only messaging app I use and it has integrated my number and everything smoothly with no issues.
All of my contacts are there along with regular phone numbers and it all work perfectly
I use hangouts literally every single day. Are you using Google Voice to integrate? If not, please tell us how the average person can integrate their text and Google chats into one app accessible across all devices capable of sending either texts or chats (or both simultaneously) from any of those devices, without the end user having to perform any convoluted setup.
You go into settings and enable sms and set as default sms in hangouts settings
The only sms or text app I use is hangouts with no issues
Hangouts ports and marries your sms number now
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I think his point is that using Hangouts doesn't guarantee that a message is not sent as SMS/MMS, even if the other using is on Android. I haven't used Hangouts since SMS integration so I apologize if I'm in error but for example, my mother has a Samsung Galaxy S5 but she uses the Samsung messaging app, never has used Hangouts. If I send a message to her though Hangouts on any other Android device, it can only be sent as SMS/MMS, correct?
Even though Hangouts has the ability to send/received native Hangout messages or SMS/MMS, it's not configured and used by default on Android phones. It has to be configured for use on both ends to avoid messages being sent as SMS/MMS.
Where did anyone fault Android for not being able to integrate with iMessage? The OP clearly expressed his discontent for Android not having an solution that compares to iMessage.
Hangouts will never offer the exact same ease of use unless Google requires it to be used as the default messaging application--we know this isn't going to happen and if it did, a million Android users would cry out in dismay.
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They let you merge and have hangouts handle SMS for a while and was/is the default on nexus. They put up a stand alone SMS app that I switch to. I like having my hang out separate from SMS. Now part of that is because I have 2 hangout accounts I use everyday (work and personal) so the merge made it harder to jump between everything as SMS merged to personal. Found it just easier to separate them.
Yes I believe that is correct. Imo google has to strong arm some kind of integration if it's going to work.
It's really a shame how much of an advantage iMessage still is
Are you saying you can attach and send video through Hangouts where it does not go through MMS? I know that was not true in the past (even when both people were on hangouts) and was a huge limitation of Hangouts as compared to iMessage.
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Yesterday, I needed to send a brief video to someone. It was very easy to do in iMessage. Does Hangouts (or any other Android solution) offer a combined and integrated data/messaging/mms/sms service that is the equivalent to iMessage. I've never found one in all the times I've dipped my toe in Android.
The last time I tried Hangouts, sms/mms and hangouts threads were separate and you could not send video through data. Has that changed?
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Yesterday, I needed to send a brief video to someone. It was very easy to do in iMessage. Does Hangouts (or any other Android solution) offer a combined and integrated data/messaging/mms/sms service that is the equivalent to iMessage. I've never found one in all the times I've dipped my toe in Android.
The last time I tried Hangouts, sms/mms and hangouts threads were separate and you could not send video through data. Has that changed?
You've hit the nail on the head and this is exactly why I don't expect to see it happen anytime soon. I have no doubt Google could pull it off but mandating everyone use one specific app goes against the basic open principles of Android. There are certainly tons of options to achieve the same results as iMessage in Apple's ecosystem. The unfortunate aspect is it just can take a lot more work to set it up (i.e. having your contacts use the same solution).
iMessage only works between iPhones. Would you be happy if Google made a messaging service that was just as good, but only worked between Android devices? Probably not...
I've never understood what the big deal is with iMessage. Just use Whatsapp, email, or any of the other messaging systems out there.
at the same token they could not get away with it like Apple does. Apple completely hijacks your number do not forget that.
I'm going to guess some on here have never used hangout? All I do is go into the camera app and press the share button and I get a list of apps to use like-minded, print etc, and hangouts, select that and it simply opens the app and you just enter the message and tel number or saved contact name etc. It couldn't be any simpler IMO.
IMessanger doesn't have any advantage, they both work pretty much the same. And even then neither are original. Does IMessanger not work to any other device using the set SMS and MMS standards that the industry has used for years and long before the IPhone existed?
IMessanger doesn't have any advantage, they both work pretty much the same. And even then neither are original. Does IMessanger not work to any other device using the set SMS and MMS standards that the industry has used for years and long before the IPhone existed?
Cannot share video through hangouts unless it was opened and captured via the hangouts app. It also seems as though googles servers either can't or do not want larger files filtering through their servers because it is heavily compressed to the end Hangouts user.
Yes, I use Hangouts exclusively for both SMS and instant messaging and have been for over a year now.
What do you mean by share video? Do you mean sending a video attachment? Because I have no problem taking a video and then sending it in a text, plus you use a camera app to capture the video, not the hangouts app.
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