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Android in Decline?
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well, if that's the case, then that's good! iPhone's are the best. Best software, and great hardware.
I actually think it is now part of Greater London - not Surrey. So no mistake by you.My mistake
Not from what I've seen, have a couple of friends who are die hard samsung fans who finally had enough of the over heating, camera lag, battery issues, phone rebooting for no reason and the list goes on, one got a iPhone 11 and the other a iPhone 11 Pro Max, asked them what they thought of iOS a few month later, told me they're never going back.
They can't believe how polished and headache free iPhone is compared to their previous Samsung phones, they were also blown away by Face ID and apple customer support.
I didn't say I did, I stated the post follows a familier pattern.
Thread like these with the same old arguments, usually started by an Apple fan are forever in declining quality.
Sadly, theres 3 of them at the top of the alternative to iOS thread. I guess those guys got tired of bitching about the iPad blooming and WWDC and came here to have this same old discussion.
I hear you get hunted down and burned alive if your preference is for Android and start a negative thread about iOS/iPhone in their dedicated sections.
Basically the same tired argument about android being more innovative than Apple. When I will admit both google and apple have their moments to shine.
But being bored you thought you would start a ridiculously old and meme type argument?
Dude I think I’m triggered lol. I think it’s the entire opposite. The single most important feature of the iPhone is and has always been iOS. Remember PALM? Remember you had to scroll using a tiny scroll bar (and yes, with a stylus. Yuck!). Remember when touchscreens weren’t multitouch? When touch devices were awful to use (you had to either press very hard and/or wait 1-2 seconds just to get a response from the UI? When text-based mobile browsers (pre iPhone) were a joke? No pinch to zoom? When downloading and installing mobile software (aka apps) and media was very hard? SMS? Android (and the entire smartphone industry) was shaped after the iPhone and its buttery smooth, super snappy, innovative and intuitive OS.
I agree that iOS was innovative and revolutionary when it first appeared. But I also agree with the poster now that it feels dated. Sure it’s had cool enhancements but the core still is essentially the same. It may also be getting a tad bloated. I won’t use an android device, not because of the software but I try to avoid anything Google related.
Like I’ve said before. I find stock vanilla Android the best smartphone OS, super smooth, no lag, very fast, gets security updates monthly like clockwork, but Google builds crappy phones.
And the complete opposite for iPhone. I think iOS blows and feels like something stuck in 2010 and is super outdated and overall a crappy OS. But Apple does build the best smartphone the design and hardware are top notch.
The perfect smartphone does not exist. To me the perfect phone today would be the iPhone 12 Pro Max running stock Android 12. The great hardware from Apple running the best OS by Google.
And the complete opposite for iPhone. I think iOS blows and feels like something stuck in 2010 and is super outdated and overall a crappy OS. But Apple does build the best smartphone the design and hardware are top notch.
The perfect smartphone does not exist. To me the perfect phone today would be the iPhone 12 Pro Max running stock Android 12. The great hardware from Apple running the best OS by Google.
Meme argument? You moved the goalposts at every single retort and the best you came up with is Apples latest innovation being something they implemented 5 years ago. You made an entirely weak argument and kept changing your definition of innovative.
In my opinion, Android is more innovative. They're the first to bring new features to market and have been for years. Apple routinely adds features they taught as new when in reality Android has had a version of it for years. I'm sure the iPhone 13 will slap a fancy name on their high refresh screen and try to pass it off as innovation. Same thing will happen when Apple eventually releases a foldable device years after Samsung. However, I think Apple does a good job of bringing more polished features to market and integrating them in their overall ecosystem.
But none of that matters because in the end this is just another iOS vs Android thread that pops up here every week and really just comes down to personal preference.
Your post contained nothing that was substantiated by such as bold claim, "android is more innovated", which is so general as to be meaningless. At least post some examples to have a cogent discussion.
And you are certainly entitled to that opinion, which I don't agree.
Android repurposes much tech. They have brought some features, that have already existed, before Apple. But when Apple brings a feature to ios and the iphone, there is usually a wow factor, which I demonstrated with my previous examples.
High refresh displays have been available before android brought them to market. Did android have the ability to capture images from two sensors simultaneously as the iphone 11 does?
Yup, couldn't agree more...especially about the personal preference part.
As an iPhone user I find it very hard to disagree with that. I prefer the iPhone experience but am well aware Apple are behind when it comes to new software features. I do think they do it better though when they finally get their act together which is why I stick with the iPhone.
Just making a single device good doesn't cut it anymore. All of the user's devices should work well together. The laptop, the phone, the tablet, the smartwatch, the headphones, the TV should all play well with one another. Buying an Android phone, pairing it with a Windows laptop, then getting a Samsung tablet, just doesn't work well. In ecosystems, Apple is pretty much the only game in town.
I think Samsung and other OEMs have caught onto the ecosystem now and are trying but Apple is so far advanced in this area. Android OEMs are still working out how to get your messsges and calls show up on your computer whilst Apple are allowing you to control your Mac, iMac and iPad with a single mouse and keyboard.
That is why I stay with Apple, because of the ecosystem. I’m well aware that android phones are advanced in terms of hardware and features but they don’t have anywhere near the same level of integration between devices. When I switched back to the iPhone in 2014. It was a different time. It was easy to switch back then because it was simply about one phone versus another. Now it’s not. Ironically one of the reasons I switched back was because of the lack of integration between android devices. I had a Samsung phone and a Samsung tablet and back in 2014 notes between the two devices wouldn’t even sync. Something that apple was doing even back then.
I doubt there will be a seamless integration between PCs and Android phones. The closest thing is Windows PCs with Samsung phones, because Microsoft is working closely with Samsung. Google would never play nice with Microsoft, so the best they can do is some integration between Android phone and a web browser. So we can see the complication, as there are already three companies, involved. Google, Microsoft, and the OEM. And worse, each of them has their own self interest in what's going on in their cloud servers.
Meanwhile, Apple enjoys the integration of its ecosystem because Apple made all the hardware, software, and cloud services.
This is why there were high hopes for Microsoft's own phone, or Google's own smart watch. In the end, the devices need to come from one company to reach the seamless integration that Apple did. Huawei almost did it, having a clone of Airdrop between Huawei devices and laptops.
While apples ecosystem is the best Samsung ecosystem has really developed well and you can get messages, notifications and move things over from the phone to tablet to computer in similar ways now. It's even improved since last year in a big way
I think people still have the same mindset as years ago when Samsung had no ecosystem
You can even use the galaxy Buds on your Samsung phone and they automatically connect to the Samsung tablet like with air pods and apple ipads
Some time ago, I did install and run a virtual Android environment under Windows. Pretty clunky at the time but could have been fettled a lot.
Have always found it annoying that we, in general, can't run phone apps on desktop/laptop computers. Obviously this isn't feasible when the apps use cameras, sensors, etc., not present on the other machine. (Though, even then, there might be some linking possibilities like the app being able to use the GPS in the phone over Bluetooth.)
Microsoft did an excellent job for a platform that is not theirs (and a platform coming from a company that is hostile towards them, Google). The Your Phone app works pretty neat. You can even mirror your phone's screen on your Windows desktop. The problem is the connectivity, and the moment you have to step away/let the PC sleep, I tend to have connectivity issues. But as nice as it is, the implementation is still kinda rough. Frame rate is low. Will see how Apple's universal control works.
Windows Phone was supposed to be that ideal phone environment for Windows, with both the phone and PC running UWP apps. But it's history.
Whereas my experience started with a Samsung Galaxy S2 on Android 2.3 "Gingerbread", and Android 4.1.2 "Jelly Bean".
The experiences of lack of any meaningful security, and very poor availability of updates, made me wish I had spent on an iPhone. Though the hardware of the phone was pretty impressive for the time.
Yes, I am well aware that Android isn't as bad as it used to be in these directions. But my iPhone 6S lasted until a few months ago with update after update available. (Adding: Was still working fine when I upgraded.)
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This is nonsense. iOS still doesn't even let you place app icons where you want them. Ridiculous.
Android is better if you have Pixel or Samsung Galaxy. Google promised 3 years of OS upgrades, Samsung as well. The rest of the OEMs, they're no different than the olden days. Motorola actually just released a $400 phone and proudly stated that they will give it 1 year's worth of updates. Only 1 year, and they were proud of it.
This is why I'm now a Samsung fan. At least Samsung stepped up the software side of things. The rest of the OEMs are still racing to the bottom.