You expect to be taken seriously? I hope not with that nonsense which proves absolutely nada. Stutter during app store downloading and installation is very real. Sorry that offends you so much lol.
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Android Lag - Nonsense or Fact?
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You expect to be taken seriously? I hope not with that nonsense which proves absolutely nada. Stutter during app store downloading and installation is very real. Sorry that offends you so much lol.
Michael
In order for me to get that far I have to pretty much flick from the top of the screen to the bottom as fast as I can.
What offends me is jerk offs here who impose what they believe on everyone else. If it's very real, I should have seen it in all the iPhone's I've been using over the past 4 years. Never seen it, and I've downloaded apps while using apps and never seen it. Not once. So if that offends the pre-teens here, then so be it.
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I too can say I've never experienced lag when updating apps. I think every other day I look at my phone first thing in the morning and there are updates. I select update all and then check emails, facebook, tapatalk, and twitter and the OS has never lagged.
Even if stretching your thumb you can reach the buttons but what irritates me the most is the outstretched thumb keeps blocking the screen. It is like watching a movie and people keep walking in front of you.
This is not sensible design.
the back button takes you back to the previous screens you were looking at. it lets you retrace back your previous activity or work (like following the bread crumbs). it is not about switching application.
Apart from the run around to get to settings app, having a centralized settings also mean you have to take extra effort to look for the settings for the particular app. It becomes really frustrating scrolling thru the long list if you have many apps installed. and the retarded and slow scrolling speed of iphone adds to the frustration.
why you need 4 different procedures (edit/del/button/slide up menu) just to activate a command is beyond me. Since the dawn of modern os we have been using menu to activate a command. android is following time tested methodology. the iOS way is illogical and confusing especially for first users.
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Interesting that it is mainly iOS zealots who never notice any lag--or anything negative for that matter. It's all pink unicorns and daisies in that bizarro world. Hmmmmmmmm.....
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Android Lag - Nonsense or Fact?
I could hardly be described as a iOS Zealot, and especially by a complete stranger. I give an honest account of my experience and you choose to undermine my post. That's your problem not mine. Perhaps a more mature approach?
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And when Facebook just released an update to help cure lag on all iOS would you blame iOS or the app?
The app obviously.
But when you use a pos app on Android (like the Comcast app) its Androids fault?
A few weeks ago when Facebook was laggy as hell on iOS and the iPhone 5 (there were threads on this forum) it was smooth on Android. So I could have just as easily said iOS is much laggier then Android. However I wouldn't sink to the level of blaming a poorly optimized app on the OS.
If I were to write an app and intentionally make it lag iOS nor the iPhone 5 would solve it. So don't expect all apps to be buttery smooth on any OS regardless of how powerful the device is.
I also think its fair to compare all idevices to all Android devices IF they are running the latest OS version. If Apple pushes iOS 6 out on a device that can't handle it how is that the users fault? So I should be able to compare my iPhone 4S to a Nexus 4. I didn't have lag in iOS 5 but I had to upgrade so all my apps would work. I think the opposite too, a galaxy nexus should be able to be compared to an iPhone 5.
What I don't understand is the need to call people jerk offs and be intentionally insulting to someone on an Internet forum just because they say there is lag on a gadget. Oh to get bent out of shape and drop a bunch of F bombs because someone disagrees with you.
Guys, these are electronic devices.. Yes we like them. No device is perfect or flawless. So what if a phone lags or not.
At launch, only 3 android phones had a lag-less UI in my experience.
1: Global Galaxy SIII
2: Galaxy SII
3: Nexus S
What they all have common is very powerful Samsung GPU's. Every other android device I've touched laaaagggssss.
And bitching about lag on a phone that is 3 years old, when running a much more demanding version of the OS is pretty stupid.
How about working a few extra hours and getting a newer phone...
1: Global Galaxy SIII
2: Galaxy SII
3: Nexus S
What they all have common is very powerful Samsung GPU's. Every other android device I've touched laaaagggssss.
And bitching about lag on a phone that is 3 years old, when running a much more demanding version of the OS is pretty stupid.
How about working a few extra hours and getting a newer phone...
Let's categorize "Lag". This assumes that we are comparing same generation phones on both platform
1. Launcher/Home
Comparing Android App drawer with Iphone springboard icon pages, there is little difference and no lag on both. There is no equivalent for Android home screen on iphone so there's no comparison possible here. IFans pls come back later when iOS provides something like widgets and scrolling wallpaper/live wallpaper on homescreen.
2. Starting App
On first start, apps usually take longer to start on Android. Once apps are in cache, starting up is usually similar or a bit faster than iphone. iOS also use a "trick" to make it seems that apps start faster than actual by first displaying a static image of the app before the app UI has finished loading. That's why you see UI elements like buttons/labels show up slightly later than the image.
3. Running App
Here it depends on the differences betw apps. e.g Opening Log is slower on Android due to picture thumbnails (none on iOS) and up to 1000 log entries compared to something like 150 on iOS. Other factors that may come into play include design of the apps or differences caused by using different UI elements or whether app can run in background.
4. Scrolling Speed
Iphone lags a lot here compared to Android. The scroll kinetic of iphone has a lot of inertia. no matter how fast/long you flip, the scroll speed and distance scrolled is limited.
5. Multi-tasking
Because very few apps can run in background on iOS, it is difficult to compare lag here. Because there can be many background apps in Android, you do get occasional lag when the background apps are actively using cpu/data/disk. Some have reported that iOS also lag when background apps are active (e.g. installing app) or safari loading webpages in multiple tabs.
1. Launcher/Home
Comparing Android App drawer with Iphone springboard icon pages, there is little difference and no lag on both. There is no equivalent for Android home screen on iphone so there's no comparison possible here. IFans pls come back later when iOS provides something like widgets and scrolling wallpaper/live wallpaper on homescreen.
2. Starting App
On first start, apps usually take longer to start on Android. Once apps are in cache, starting up is usually similar or a bit faster than iphone. iOS also use a "trick" to make it seems that apps start faster than actual by first displaying a static image of the app before the app UI has finished loading. That's why you see UI elements like buttons/labels show up slightly later than the image.
3. Running App
Here it depends on the differences betw apps. e.g Opening Log is slower on Android due to picture thumbnails (none on iOS) and up to 1000 log entries compared to something like 150 on iOS. Other factors that may come into play include design of the apps or differences caused by using different UI elements or whether app can run in background.
4. Scrolling Speed
Iphone lags a lot here compared to Android. The scroll kinetic of iphone has a lot of inertia. no matter how fast/long you flip, the scroll speed and distance scrolled is limited.
5. Multi-tasking
Because very few apps can run in background on iOS, it is difficult to compare lag here. Because there can be many background apps in Android, you do get occasional lag when the background apps are actively using cpu/data/disk. Some have reported that iOS also lag when background apps are active (e.g. installing app) or safari loading webpages in multiple tabs.
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I'm beginning to think my 4S has faulty hardware or something. It just likes on iOS 6 quite a bit quite often. I just did a restore from new and it still does it.
I took this earlier. Scrolling to search.
Keyboard popped then lagged for a good 5+ seconds before scrolling over.
I took this earlier. Scrolling to search.
Keyboard popped then lagged for a good 5+ seconds before scrolling over.
Do you mean spoltight?
Spotlight searches in fairness have been the only area for me iOS ever stuttered, which was rectified via turning off some of the areas spotlight searches for. Once turning off a few / restricting where spotlight indexes It never stutters swiping back to there for me on iOS.
But I am confused by your screenshot...
However if your scrolling to search how is the keyboard displayed on top of your app drawer?
I can't put the keyboard ontop of my app drawer, unless I am just renaming a folder, but you aren't doing that....
So are you jailbroken or something???
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I didn't mean you as the zealot. I have seen enough of your posts to know you are not. Prolly shouldn't have included you in the quotes but suffice to say it was mostly directed at the one who couldn't contain the profanity and other absurdity.
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From a different thread, but I think it applies:
Even using Google Chrome was smoother on my iPhone than Nexus 4. Am I the only one who thinks that is backwards?
Having said that, I haven't really touched my iPhone 4S since November. And even though my Nexus 4 shows more signs of lag than my old iPhone, it is not worth giving up the customization Android offers. Does that make me an iOS zealot?
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I just switched from an iPhone 5 a Verizon Galaxy S4. To answer your question: The lag is there, but it's not because of the OS, it's because of the manufacturer skins.
I've come to this conclusion quite simply. I've had my GS4 since last Thursday when it was released on Verizon. It was a very fast phone. Sometimes. It would randomly lag, animations would slow down and then rapidly catch up, or they'd freeze for a second or two. The screen would become unresponsive. The keyboard would take a second to show up and the animation of the keyboard appearing would lag so much that it was if there was no animation. These were little lags, as in, you could tell the phone was fast as it caught up with the lag rather quickly. This led me to create a theory. My theory was that the GS4 is not lagging because of Android, it's lagging because of TouchWiz and the all of the **** that gets loaded onto it. I knew how to test this, but custom ROM's for the GS4 had to be released, so I waited for a few days.
Today, an unofficial build of AOKP (a variant of stock Android or AOSP) was released. This is only build 1, but I figured it'd be good enough to test my theory with. I then backed up all of my apps, messages, contacts, etc. from TouchWiz and proceeded in wiping my GS4 and flashing build 1 of AOKP for the Verizon GS4. Upon the first boot and setup I noticed that the keyboard lag I spoke of earlier, was gone. It was very smooth, I'd even say as smooth as iOS. I then began to restore all of my backed up information to see if maybe all the crap that I had installed in the few days I've had the phone had been the cause of the lag. I let it all restore and began using the phone until I went to bed.
Guess what I found out? The PHONE DIDN'T LAG AT ALL. Not. One. Bit. And on top of that, the battery life was significantly better. Honestly, when I first got my GS4, I began to miss the smoothness of iOS, but after flashing a stock ROM, I have no complaints. I do not understand why manufacturers WILLINGLY apply these skins to their devices only to cause them to lag so horribly that their flagship devices seemed "low-end". This truly does puzzle me. So, in the end Android doesn't lag. TouchWiz does.
TL;DR: Android itself doesn't lag, manufacturer skins cause it too. My Galaxy S4 is lag free after flashing a stock AOSP ROM on it and getting rid of all the TouchWiz BS.
I've come to this conclusion quite simply. I've had my GS4 since last Thursday when it was released on Verizon. It was a very fast phone. Sometimes. It would randomly lag, animations would slow down and then rapidly catch up, or they'd freeze for a second or two. The screen would become unresponsive. The keyboard would take a second to show up and the animation of the keyboard appearing would lag so much that it was if there was no animation. These were little lags, as in, you could tell the phone was fast as it caught up with the lag rather quickly. This led me to create a theory. My theory was that the GS4 is not lagging because of Android, it's lagging because of TouchWiz and the all of the **** that gets loaded onto it. I knew how to test this, but custom ROM's for the GS4 had to be released, so I waited for a few days.
Today, an unofficial build of AOKP (a variant of stock Android or AOSP) was released. This is only build 1, but I figured it'd be good enough to test my theory with. I then backed up all of my apps, messages, contacts, etc. from TouchWiz and proceeded in wiping my GS4 and flashing build 1 of AOKP for the Verizon GS4. Upon the first boot and setup I noticed that the keyboard lag I spoke of earlier, was gone. It was very smooth, I'd even say as smooth as iOS. I then began to restore all of my backed up information to see if maybe all the crap that I had installed in the few days I've had the phone had been the cause of the lag. I let it all restore and began using the phone until I went to bed.
Guess what I found out? The PHONE DIDN'T LAG AT ALL. Not. One. Bit. And on top of that, the battery life was significantly better. Honestly, when I first got my GS4, I began to miss the smoothness of iOS, but after flashing a stock ROM, I have no complaints. I do not understand why manufacturers WILLINGLY apply these skins to their devices only to cause them to lag so horribly that their flagship devices seemed "low-end". This truly does puzzle me. So, in the end Android doesn't lag. TouchWiz does.
TL;DR: Android itself doesn't lag, manufacturer skins cause it too. My Galaxy S4 is lag free after flashing a stock AOSP ROM on it and getting rid of all the TouchWiz BS.
I have owned 4 bone stock android devices and one touchwiz device.
Yes, Android can certainly lag and there is no established rhyme or reason for why it happens on some devices and not others (or why it sometimes occurs or doesn't occur on the same device).
I haven't used iStuff enough to tell you whether it happens as often on Apple products
Yes, Android can certainly lag and there is no established rhyme or reason for why it happens on some devices and not others (or why it sometimes occurs or doesn't occur on the same device).
I haven't used iStuff enough to tell you whether it happens as often on Apple products
Everything lags to some extent. Its what level do you consider ok. My Note 2 hardly lags at all, but I wont say it doesnt ever ever lag because its not true but what is true is my ipad and my wifes iphone lags more than my note 2. FACT.
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it depends, all devices lag, my old iphone 3g became unusable after the 3.0 (or was it 4.0???) software update. my ipad 3 lags now (too much imo)
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The Note 2 is noticebly faster than all of those
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it depends, all devices lag, my old iphone 3g became unusable after the 3.0 (or was it 4.0???) software update. my ipad 3 lags now (too much imo)
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The Note 2 is noticebly faster than all of those
Nope just scrolled away spotlight and keyboard didn't go away and the phone hung for a few seconds.
No jailbreak
That certainly isn't the norm....... I've had almost every iPhone and every iPad and never has the keyboard hung after spotlight so that it appears over the home screen / apps.
It's certainly not indicative of a common iOS issue anyway.
Sorry I was a little too stern in my reply. I'm on my first iPhone and couldn't say I've had really bad experiences with the HTC's and Samsung's I've owned in the past. Personally I'm not a slave to a particular brand and with this thread I was honest when I said I'd never experienced lag on my iP5. That doesn't mean I won't suddenly experience it once I've written this of course lol. One thing is clear from this thread and that is people seem to have a different definition of the term 'lag'.
My friends have an htc droid dna, and another has an s4. Both actually admit to having lag on their phones. It seems that they can live with the lag, because they want to keep the customization options. Whereas when they had iphones, they had no lag. But unless jailbroken, could not do much with the OS. Thats what i see from android users. They learn to live with the lag, stutters, etc. To keep the ability to customize the phones the way they can with android.
I have seen the lag they are talking about. Personally, it would bother me having to use a phone that does lag or stutter the way theirs does. But for them, they have learned to live with it. It all comes down to whether you can accept the quirks that android provides, for the ability to have your phone looking exactly the way you want it.
I have seen the lag they are talking about. Personally, it would bother me having to use a phone that does lag or stutter the way theirs does. But for them, they have learned to live with it. It all comes down to whether you can accept the quirks that android provides, for the ability to have your phone looking exactly the way you want it.