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Tsepz

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I get between 6-8hours SOT on my Note 4. I'm certainly not jealous of any iPhone owner, I own an iPad and would be pulling my hair out if I had to use this OS for more than just games and taking notes with OneNote for iOS, far too limiting 8years on.

SOT in Android and "Usage" in iPhone are not comparable, my iPad often claims high usage, due to apps or GPS working in the background when the screen is off or when listening to music with screen off. It's not actual using.
 
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IFRIT

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Op you are not getting 10 hours of SOT if you want to make a troll thread at least use facts and not make believe.
 

iAstonish

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The iPhone doesn't tell you screen-on time. But no phone gets 11h. The Droid Turbo or the Moto X Play gets about 8h. I would guess around 5h for the Plus and 4h for the normal.

Download an app called moment from the playstore and it will track your screen on time on iPhone separate from usage. My phone gets 11.
 

iAstonish

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Op you are not getting 10 hours of SOT if you want to make a troll thread at least use facts and not make believe.

Good one bro.

I get between 6-8hours SOT on my Note 4. I'm certainly not jealous of any iPhone owner, I own an iPad and would be pulling my hair out if I had to use this OS for more than just games and taking notes with OneNote for iOS, far too limiting 8years on.

SOT in Android and "Usage" in iPhone are not comparable, my iPad often claims high usage, due to apps or GPS working in the background when the screen is off or when listening to music with screen off. It's not actual using.

Yea I'm a fan of android, more so than iOS to be completely honest. I didn't use the 4, but the note 3 was one of my favorite phones of all time. Anyway so if you can get upwards to 8 hours sot on your quad hd display on the note, why does 10 hours on a normal 1080p seem impossible?

And yes, I understand the difference, but there is an app called moment that will track your actual screen on time like in android. And yes, I get over ten hours with the 6s plus. I'm not at full brightness and mostly safari and Reddit browsing. Didn't think it was so far fetched that people would get defensive about it, not sure how my phones battery effects anyone else personally.

(In response to the kind gentelman a post above)
 

mclld

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Download an app called moment from the playstore and it will track your screen on time on iPhone separate from usage. My phone gets 11.
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That is incredible if true
 
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iAstonish

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That is incredible if true

Haha well that's fair, but I've gotten 11 hours at about 25% brightness browsing safari, narwhal (Reddit app), and then a few little apps like yahoo fantasy, text and email, etc. This was over wifi as well. I had background refresh off and wasn't streaming any music or anything. I've posted screenshots on the forum in other threads amongst the arguing about the chipgate crap.

And you don't have to believe me, but I'm a big android enthusiast, I've had nearly every flagship since the g1 and have been anti Apple phones before trying the 6 plus this summer. So I have no reason to lie about the battery, and to be frank, as I've said on xda, android central, Reddit, etc. there are a lot of things that I like better about android as a whole, but the battery life on the 6/6s plus is what made it a daily driver for me.

On a side note, well played gif from one of my favorite movies :3
 
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iAstonish

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Also @mclld heres a screenshot from the other day. I took it at 20 percent before power saver activated. Like I said no background music or anything running my usage was from browsing Reddit and safari over wifi. It ended up at 10 hours 50 something minutes.

And again you can monitor it if you download moment app and open it up before you plug your phone in.

Either way this was just browsing, no gaming or video watching. But yea.
 

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Tulipo

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You can show on screen time. Hit the little clock looking button next to the last 5 days as shown below.
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iAstonish

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You can show on screen time. Hit the little clock looking button next to the last 5 days as shown below.
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Sweet thanks for the tip, I'll do this next time. I just jailbroke and went back to 9.0.2 today and am setting up my phone fresh again so gonna let it level out a bit after its set up
 

Tulipo

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No problem. Doing the math shows I have 6 hours on screen time at 50% battery! iPhone 6s Plus with the Samsung chip.

Edit. Take that back. That's last 24 hours.
 
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azhurvadal

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Haha well that's fair, but I've gotten 11 hours at about 25% brightness browsing safari, narwhal (Reddit app), and then a few little apps like yahoo fantasy, text and email, etc. This was over wifi as well. I had background refresh off and wasn't streaming any music or anything. I've posted screenshots on the forum in other threads amongst the arguing about the chipgate crap.

And you don't have to believe me, but I'm a big android enthusiast, I've had nearly every flagship since the g1 and have been anti Apple phones before trying the 6 plus this summer. So I have no reason to lie about the battery, and to be frank, as I've said on xda, android central, Reddit, etc. there are a lot of things that I like better about android as a whole, but the battery life on the 6/6s plus is what made it a daily driver for me.

On a side note, well played gif from one of my favorite movies :3
This result is not surprising cause it's identical with anandtech battery test. You can see the latest test in note 5 review in wifi browsing test.
However it's not a spectacular result as some android phones also have similar results.

Keep in mind that most android phones which have 6+ hours screen on time are considered to have great battery because they use it normally with background refresh , for multimedia etc.
If you use your android phone only for wifi browsing straight for 15 hours until the battery drop, I think the result will be similar anandtech test.
 
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iAstonish

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No problem. Doing the math shows I have 6 hours on screen time at 50% battery! iPhone 6s Plus with the Samsung chip.

Exactly my point. 10 hours isn't an unreal sot mark for the iPhone plus models, if it's not intensive usage with the brightness up. There are a lot of variables like I said, but I pretty much always have my phone on wifi so I'm sure that helps a lot as well.

And I have the Samsung chip too :p seems pretty good to me
 

iAstonish

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This result is not surprising cause it's identical with anandtech battery test. You can see the latest test in note 5 review in wifi browsing test.
However it's not a spectacular result as some android phones also have similar results.

Keep in mind that most android phones which have 6+ hours screen on time are considered to have great battery because they use it normally with background refresh , for multimedia etc.
If you use your android phone only for wifi browsing straight for 15 hours until the battery drop, I think the result will be similar anandtech test.

I'm sure the not line can come close. The point of this thread wasn't to bash android it was just a joke to take some heat off everyone freaking out over the chipgate thing. I was just saying they don't know the struggle lol especially for early android adapters. Galaxy nexus anyone?
 

TechGod

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Android isn't efficient like Windoze since the chip that they use are power hungy and android's API itself isn't as tightly integrated to hardware as iOS. A9 is just a dual core ARM which means it uses less than half of watts as the Qualcomm or Exynos chip at full load. A9 still beats those chips in browsing and CPU performance since iOS apps and iOS (despite becoming more and more like android in complexity) are still much more efficient in getting the best out of the CPU. Samsung A9 is more dense than the TSMC which means less surface area to dissipate heat and as such it's prone to efficiency losses since higher temps results to less efficiency in electricity terms. Run both TSMC and Samsung A9 in a freezer environment and you'll see Samsung slightly beating the TSMC due to the denser transistor manufacturing process. Once hot however, TSMC will throttle slightly less than Samsung while dissipating heat more (more surface area) which results to more battery life.
This was painful to read.
 
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roeiz

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11 hours of screen on time on the 6 plus??? If that is true then that is incredible

i don't believe i actually ever read about a legit number of 11 hours SCREEN time... seems far fetched.

* well only if indeed brightness low, total wi fi etc.. then maybe.
 

iAstonish

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i don't believe i actually ever read about a legit number of 11 hours SCREEN time... seems far fetched.

Give me a few days, just jailbroke and am respringing and setting stuff up how I like it and I will post back with the results from the moment app to verify!

For now all I have is this, but I assure you background refresh was off and as you can see no music or anything streaming it was legit just Reddit and safari between this site and rotoworld pretty much.
 

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iAstonish

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"Android's Apis aren't as tightly integrated into the hardware itself" WTF does that even mean????

Haha idk man. I'm not even trying to poke fun, but when I initially read it I thought windoze was like another benchmarking program or something. I had no idea what was going on.
 
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roeiz

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Give me a few days, just jailbroke and am respringing and setting stuff up how I like it and I will post back with the results from the moment app to verify!

For now all I have is this, but I assure you background refresh was off and as you can see no music or anything streaming it was legit just Reddit and safari between this site and rotoworld pretty much.


i believe you, just saying i wonder how many hours it gives with regular use, not with many disabled drainers (you can do the same with a Note 5 and get 11 hours probably.. no?)
 

iAstonish

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i believe you, just saying i wonder how many hours it gives with regular use, not with many disabled drainers (you can do the same with a Note 5 and get 11 hours probably.. no?)

Can't speak for the note 5 personally, never owned it. Had the note 3 and could get like 6 hours screen on time, which was excellent. Then again I had the G3 with the quad hd display and only got like 3 hours. Plus the standby on the iPhone is practically nothing. The battery basically doesn't move unless it's on. With android like you said the background app management is an entirely different beast so that could be a reason why you get less screen on time as well, because the battery is draining from rogue apps even when the screens not in use.
 
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roeiz

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Can't speak for the note 5 personally, never owned it. Had the note 3 and could get like 6 hours screen on time, which was excellent. Then again I had the G3 with the quad hd display and only got like 3 hours. Plus the standby on the iPhone is practically nothing. The battery basically doesn't move unless it's on. With android like you said the background app management is an entirely different beast so that could be a reason why you get less screen on time as well, because the battery is draining from rogue apps even when the screens not in use.

totally agree on Android background app mess...
i had M7 for 3 years now, and you just FEEL something is messy down there with Android use.
all these "worlds of possibilities" didn't really do nothing for me in the long run.
much prefer to make the most of the IOS "cage", lol.

ONLY real advantage for me was watching sport torrent streaming and such.
that will never be possible on a legit IOS :(
(and i'm not into the jailbreaking stuff)
 

iAstonish

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totally agree on Android background app mess...
i had M7 for 3 years now, and you just FEEL something is messy down there with Android use.
all these "worlds of possibilities" didn't really do nothing for me in the long run.
much prefer to make the most of the IOS "cage", lol.

ONLY real advantage for me was watching sport torrent streaming and such.
that will never be possible on a legit IOS :(
(and i'm not into the jailbreaking stuff)

The one m7? Loved that phone, such a game changer at the time. It's a shame they got comfy with it and didn't really improve much in the m8 or m9

Also you can stream with legit iOS. Download puffin browser it has flash built in, I watch football streams on there when I don't feel like sitting at my computer.

And understandable. I jailbreak not for the free apps, but just to tweak little things like transparent dock bar, 5 icons on the dock instead of 4, etc.
 
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roeiz

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The one m7? Loved that phone, such a game changer at the time. It's a shame they got comfy with it and didn't really improve much in the m8 or m9

Also you can stream with legit iOS. Download puffin browser it has flash built in, I watch football streams on there when I don't feel like sitting at my computer.

And understandable. I jailbreak not for the free apps, but just to tweak little things like transparent dock bar, 5 icons on the dock instead of 4, etc.
I was thinking maybe there's a way to stream some stuff through video players like MX or VLC (on IOS)
 

apolloa

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How funny is this chipgate stuff? iPhone users don't know how good they have it when it comes to battery life. You're complaining about an "inferior chip" that "only" gets 11 hours of screen on time in my 6s plus, I could only imagine you guys using a nexus 5 for example and enjoying the 2 hours sot.

I came to this forum to talk about iPhone and read up on it, but honestly almost every thread here is complaining about minuscule things that aren't even really problems. You should set a better example as a community, because God forbid if anyone was to come here to read up on some personal experiences prior to potentially switching to iPhone, they would probably turn and run the other way after seeing all these threads.

Sorry to rant, but chipgate seems more like a high school esque popularity contest on here more than a real issue at this point.

Chipgate is a non starter, because both chips perform to Apple's spec. Plus in the real world the difference is negligible. That's what I think, plus as you have NO idea of knowing which chip is in which phone until after you've bought it, it's pointless anyway, you won't be able to keep exchanging a phone until you get a chip you want.
 
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