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Any 10.5 Pro users staying with iOS 10.3 for now?

Newtons Apple said:
11 has be fine for both of my 10.5 iPads. Why would you not update m
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Because iOS 11 is super beta still, even ignoring the stutters.

I cannnot even sort reviews by date in the App store when I am interested in buying an apps.
 
Sitting pretty with iOS 11.0.2 on my iPad Pros and iPhone 7+. I haven't experienced any of the UI issues others seem to be having, not battery issues. It's difficult to reproduce since no one seems to elaborate on exactly what stutters (although I admit the five finger gesture on iPads does seem janky, but I usually use the home button anyway)

As for the App Store - yes I agree they need to restore the review sorting by date functionality. That is a surprising mis-step by Apple - there's no point looking at a review several years old on an outdated version of an app.
 
Royksöpp said:
I'm just curious if anyone is waiting for Apple to iron out the initial bugs. I'm going to wait til at least 11.1.
I tried iOS 11 and it just didn't seem polished enough for day to day use. A little bit of stuttering and rotation bugs.
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As an iPad Pro 10.5 owner running iOS 11.0.2 I highly recommend you to wait until 11.1 comes out. iOS 11 is a total mess and brings a lot of issues at the moment. I trust Apple will fix those problems, but next time I will wait for iOS 12.1 to update.
 
masotime said:
That's the thing - I'm not seeing this. Can you enumerate on the issues? I'm genuinely curious.
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Let’s begin: I need to press home button to unlock device even when it is set up to unlock just by touch by touchID in accessibility settings; wake/sleep function is significantly affected as sometimes device does not wake when I lift smart keyboard; when device awakes I have to wait 5 or 7 seconds until it responds to my finger inputs; auto-brightness is buggier than ever; stuttering when using 5 finger gestures; severe frame drops by scrolling in certain apps such as Settings and Mail plus slight frame drops on homescreen scrolling. Furthermore, it is a painful process to slide correctly so you get the notification center to show up and when it does screen flickers and system slows down. Every time I try to access notification center it seems to overload the entire OS, really weird! None of those are due to hardware defect as I did not have any of those issues on iOS 10 on the very same device, except for the frame drops which will never be corrected apparently.

AH, and the App Store is a clusterf**k at the moment! But I guess that is not a bug, but a “feature” I suppose...
 
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Enumerated a little better, that was hard to read

Leo90 said:
Let’s begin:

  1. I need to press home button to unlock device even when it is set up to unlock just by touch by touchID in accessibility settings;
  2. wake/sleep function is significantly affected as sometimes device does not wake when I lift smart keyboard;
  3. when device awakes I have to wait 5 or 7 seconds until it responds to my finger inputs;
  4. auto-brightness is buggier than ever;
  5. stuttering when using 5 finger gestures;
  6. severe frame drops by scrolling in certain apps such as Settings and Mail plus slight frame drops on homescreen scrolling.
  7. Furthermore, it is a painful process to slide correctly so you get the notification center to show up and when it does screen flickers and system slows down.
  8. Every time I try to access notification center it seems to overload the entire OS, really weird!

AH, and the App Store is a clusterf**k at the moment! But I guess that is not a bug, but a “feature” I suppose...
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  1. I don't have this enabled, so can't comment, I just push the button.
  2. Hmmm... "lift" the smart keyboard? I haven't had this issue
  3. Haven't had this issue
  4. No issue with brightness
  5. Yes this is there, but I don't use 5-finger gestures.
  6. Haven't noticed this
  7. Haven't noticed this.
  8. Haven't noticed this.
So most issues I haven't noticed. I'll try to pay more attention to see if I notice them now. As for the App Store... yeah that is definitely a mixed bag.
 
masotime said:
Enumerated a little better, that was hard to read


  1. I don't have this enabled, so can't comment, I just push the button.
  2. Hmmm... "lift" the smart keyboard? I haven't had this issue
  3. Haven't had this issue
  4. No issue with brightness
  5. Yes this is there, but I don't use 5-finger gestures.
  6. Haven't noticed this
  7. Haven't noticed this.
  8. Haven't noticed this.
So most issues I haven't noticed. I'll try to pay more attention to see if I notice them now. As for the App Store... yeah that is definitely a mixed bag.
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Sorry, I meant “open” and not “lift”.
 
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As a quick theory, it's possible that an app that's not been optimized for iOS 11 is misbehaving. Do you use any widgets on the notification screen? Try removal all widgets and see if it improves notification center performance.
 
Procreate also had some crashing problems. When zooming in it would freeze and crash the entire iPad. A hard reset fixed the issue although it happened several times so I don't know what's to blame.
 
masotime said:
Sitting pretty with iOS 11.0.2 on my iPad Pros and iPhone 7+. I haven't experienced any of the UI issues others seem to be having, not battery issues. It's difficult to reproduce since no one seems to elaborate on exactly what stutters (although I admit the five finger gesture on iPads does seem janky, but I usually use the home button anyway)

As for the App Store - yes I agree they need to restore the review sorting by date functionality. That is a surprising mis-step by Apple - there's no point looking at a review several years old on an outdated version of an app.
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Elaboration on stutters: 11.1 Beta on my Air 2 - the stutters occur on screen transitions, e.g. opening or closing an app, populating the screen when opening from a lock screen, etc. It's not every time and only qualifies as a distracting annoyance. Definitely takes away from the previous smooth, polished UI experience.
 
I'll be staying on 10.3.3 until I'm comfortable with performance of 11.x on my 8+ and when I read more positive feedback about 11 in general. It's too early for me.
 
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masotime said:
As a quick theory, it's possible that an app that's not been optimized for iOS 11 is misbehaving. Do you use any widgets on the notification screen? Try removal all widgets and see if it improves notification center performance.
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No widgets over here (I personally hate them on iOS) and I am using mostly stock apps such as Safari, Video and Mail.
 
sparksd said:
Elaboration on stutters: 11.1 Beta on my Air 2 - the stutters occur on screen transitions, e.g. opening or closing an app, populating the screen when opening from a lock screen, etc. It's not every time and only qualifies as a distracting annoyance. Definitely takes away from the previous smooth, polished UI experience.
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Installed 11.1 Beta 2 last night and so far it appears that the stuttering problem from previous 11.x builds I have been seeing on my Air 2 is improving.
 
iOS11 is in alpha state from my point of view. On both 10.5 and 12.9, purchased two weeks ago, I have constant app crashes, os glitches, and the famous iOS smoothness is nowhere to be seen.
 
tambur123 said:
iOS11 is in alpha state from my point of view. On both 10.5 and 12.9, purchased two weeks ago, I have constant app crashes, os glitches, and the famous iOS smoothness is nowhere to be seen.
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11.1 beta seems better so far for me on 12.9 over 11.0

I dont have app crashes tho but only use a few, def some occasional glitches and stutter
but its not bad for a x.0 release imo
 
iOS 11 on my iPad Pro is a piece of sh*t. Just updated from 10.3.3 which was iOS 6 levels of smooth in comparison. Now though: Frame drops everywhere, heavy stutter when exiting apps, stutter when swiping through app windows in multitask view, an App Store which is also a stuttery mess. The latest beta isn’t any smoother either. What’s the point of having ProMotion if you’re just gonna release sh*tty unoptomised software which makes it lag? It is truly abysmal and Apple should be ashamed of themselves for releasing such beta Android-circa-2010-like software. It is that bad. I don’t want to hear anyone say how harsh I’m being either. It is well deserved. Apple used to release top quality software but sadly they just don’t anymore.
 
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Superhappytree said:
iOS 11 on my iPad Pro is a piece of sh*t. Just updated from 10.3.3 which was iOS 6 levels of smooth in comparison. Now though: Frame drops everywhere, heavy stutter when exiting apps, stutter when swiping through app windows in multitask view, an App Store which is also a stuttery mess. The latest beta isn’t any smoother either. What’s the point of having ProMotion if you’re just gonna release sh*tty unoptomised software which makes it lag? It is truly abysmal and Apple should be ashamed of themselves for releasing such beta Android-circa-2010-like software. It is that bad. I don’t want to hear anyone say how harsh I’m being either. It is well deserved. Apple used to release top quality software but sadly they just don’t anymore.
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Yes.
iOS 11 has rendered ProMotion useless in many circumstances. I wish they fix it soon.
 
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Superhappytree said:
iOS 11 on my iPad Pro is a piece of sh*t. Just updated from 10.3.3 which was iOS 6 levels of smooth in comparison. Now though: Frame drops everywhere, heavy stutter when exiting apps, stutter when swiping through app windows in multitask view, an App Store which is also a stuttery mess. The latest beta isn’t any smoother either. What’s the point of having ProMotion if you’re just gonna release sh*tty unoptomised software which makes it lag? It is truly abysmal and Apple should be ashamed of themselves for releasing such beta Android-circa-2010-like software. It is that bad. I don’t want to hear anyone say how harsh I’m being either. It is well deserved. Apple used to release top quality software but sadly they just don’t anymore.
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The latest iOS 11 releases are pretty much perfect. The idea that iOS 11 renders ProMotion pointless is diabolical in the extreme.

iOS 11 is incredible to use on all the iPad Pro models. This latest release is pretty much built for iPad, unlike all the earlier releases that were designed primarily around iPhone.

If you love iPad, you must love iOS 11.
 
dumastudetto said:
The latest iOS 11 releases are pretty much perfect. The idea that iOS 11 renders ProMotion pointless is diabolical in the extreme.

iOS 11 is incredible to use on all the iPad Pro models. This latest release is pretty much built for iPad, unlike all the earlier releases that were designed primarily around iPhone.

If you love iPad, you must love iOS 11.
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Perfect? I certainly wouldn't say that about 11.1 Beta 2, the latest. While this Beta is better than the latest official 11 release, I'm having issues, as are others -

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-11-1-beta-2-bug-fixes-changes-and-improvements.2076492/
 
vista980622 said:
Yes.
iOS 11 has rendered ProMotion useless in many circumstances. I wish they fix it soon.
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God I’m hoping so. It honestly feels like I’ve downgraded the performance is that bad. I am amazed how anyone can say that this atrocity is ‘smooth’. If anything, ProMotion only further highlights how awful iOS 11 currently is in terms of lag.

dumastudetto said:
The latest iOS 11 releases are pretty much perfect. The idea that iOS 11 renders ProMotion pointless is diabolical in the extreme.

iOS 11 is incredible to use on all the iPad Pro models. This latest release is pretty much built for iPad, unlike all the earlier releases that were designed primarily around iPhone.

If you love iPad, you must love iOS 11.
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I really hate to sound rude but you can’t be serious? What you said sounds like what an Apple employer would say in an iOS 11 ad. I’m not the only one saying this but it isn’t perfect at all, it is on the complete opposite of the spectrum. It honestly feels like I have downgraded to an android tablet from 2011. That’s how bad it feels to me. So no, I don’t love iOS 11, as it is right now I hate it and regret updating. And I actually prefer how multitasking worked in iOS 10 with the quick and easy slide from the side to go into split screen rather than swipe up from dock, drag, and place to the side which is 2 more steps.

Below is a video of what I’m seeing and it’s actually laggier in person (low quality due to screen record). It is a complete lagfest and I have no idea how anyone here can say it is smooth.

 
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