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Using an iMac and a much more powerful PC every day, I'd say go make the switch. Windows becomes dead slow in a couple of months anyway, raw hardware doesn't really make much of a difference.
 
Using an iMac and a much more powerful PC every day, I'd say go make the switch. Windows becomes dead slow in a couple of months anyway, raw hardware doesn't really make much of a difference.

No idea how you came to that conclusion. My Windows 7 PC has been running flawlessly and is more than capable for the tasks I give it, this includes running 5 instances of wow on the single physical box with a VM instance of windows server running in the background.
 
Using an iMac and a much more powerful PC every day, I'd say go make the switch. Windows becomes dead slow in a couple of months anyway, raw hardware doesn't really make much of a difference.

This only happens if you install poorly designed software which runs service-type processes all the time (but especially during system boot-up). There is nothing special in Windows that makes it run slow. It's all in third party software (not that a big of a problem with Macs for there is not much to install).
 
I own Windows 7 Ultimate and run it in Boot Camp on my i7 iMac. I think it is by far the finest iteration of Windows to date. That said, I must take issue with some of these comments:

There is nothing special in Windows that makes it run slow.

The dreaded registry? The need for defragmentation? The wildcard of hardware with varying levels of driver support and hardware-level incompatibilities?

It's all in third party software (not that a big of a problem with Macs for there is not much to install).

The vast majority of software I have installed and use daily in OS X (90%+) is not made by Apple.

Anyway, like I said, my i7 provides the best of both worlds for me. You can install Windows on it and run it in Boot Camp and/or a VM so it doesn't have to be a pissing contest anyway.
 
The dreaded registry? The need for defragmentation? The wildcard of hardware with varying levels of driver support and hardware-level incompatibilities?

There is nothing wrong with registry. Just do not install any junk or use software for registry clean-up.

Schedule automatic defragmentation once a week. Not a big deal which is not the case with OS X. here is what Wikipedia has to say about defragmentation on OS X: " HFS Plus (Mac OS X) In 1998 it introduced a number of optimizations to the allocation algorithms in an attempt to defragment files while they are being accessed without a separate defragmenter. If the filesystem does become fragmented, the only way to defragment it is to purchase a utility such as Coriolis System's iDefrag; or to wipe the hard drive completely and install the system from scratch."

If you buy pre-built PC from any major brand (DELL, HP etc.) you will not have any incompatibilities. You will however encounter a lot of "incompatibilities" between Mac and all kinds of non-Apple hardware.
 
There is nothing wrong with registry. Just do not install any junk or use software for registry clean-up.

Nothing wrong the the registry? LMAO, are you serious?
Don't know about you, but I like to try new applications frequently, and I find unacceptable that even if I uninstall them they always leave some crap and mess up the registry a bit more. And in a couple of month Windows is slow, and has got wierd problems like not correctly displaying icons, all because of the registry issues. And don't tell me to use 3rd party uninstallers, because they tend to remove too much too often.

On Mac OS X I never have such problems, even though I use it much more and install many more apps.

Add to it the security software you'll be needing, that's an additional slowdown.

Here's an interesting article http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/why-windows-slows-down-over-time-30833 from an IT Pro

One reason is the registry. This is the central deposit of all information regarding programs and settings installed in your windows computer. Over time this registry can become fragmented which, like a fragmented hard disk, slows down access to the information programs are searching for. Even though the registry looks like a single file when you open it up through the registry editor it actually consists of several database type files made up of a system part, a user part and a personal part which changes according to which user is logged onto windows. If one of those files becomes damaged your computer is only useful for holding doors open.

Sadly ninety nine percent of windows programs do not uninstall themselves properly and leave junk all over the hard disk and in the registry. This causes the registry to grow and use up more memory, as well as hard disk space which contributes to fragmentation.

These removed programs can also leave library files in the windows system directory, along with their registry entries, which uses up yet more computer resources and slowing down the operating system. The programs can also turn on services when they were installed and not turn them off when they are uninstalled. All these contribute to a slowdown of your computer.

Even if you don't remove these programs, most of them like to add so called, speed enhancements, to your registry to pre-load parts of their programs when you start your computer. This both uses up memory and makes for a longer start up time. If you have a row of five or more icons in your system tray then I can pretty much guarantee that your computer is running like a pig right now.

Of course some programs you just have to have in windows. These are anti virus and spyware detection programs. These open up services which run all the time and by default generally stick their grubby little fingers in every aspect of your computers workings. Not much different from a real virus actually. A fresh install of windows always seems to be so fast. Yet as soon as you install these, unfortunately, mandatory maintenance programs you immediately slow down your windows, before you have installed any other useful programs.

Who knows, it is quite possible that your now fast and stable windows will never need another format and reload again. Wouldn't that be nice?
 
Nothing wrong the the registry? LMAO, are you serious?
Don't know about you, but I like to try new applications frequently, and I find unacceptable that even if I uninstall them they always leave some crap and mess up the registry a bit more. And in a couple of month Windows is slow, and has got wierd problems like not correctly displaying icons, all because of the registry issues. And don't tell me to use 3rd party uninstallers, because they tend to remove too much too often.

On Mac OS X I never have such problems, even though I use it much more and install many more apps.

Add to it the security software you'll be needing, that's an additional slowdown.

Here's an interesting article http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/why-windows-slows-down-over-time-30833 from an IT Pro

LMAO!! Say hello to increasing the chances of your system being compromised :D

To solve your registry problem, try virtualising your application installs. When you remove a virtualised instance to removes all registry entry made during the install.

My recommendation would be not to install software unless you need it, and only install from a trusted company. Chances are your system might be compromised and is actively being used by someone else.
 
LMAO!! Say hello to increasing the chances of your system being compromised :D

To solve your registry problem, try virtualising your application installs. When you remove a virtualised instance to removes all registry entry made during the install.

My recommendation would be not to install software unless you need it, and only install from a trusted company. Chances are your system might be compromised and is actively being used by someone else.

And that's your answer to the problem? L-u-d-i-c-r-o-u-s.
 
Ive been using Macs for over 10 years and they've been great. But im actually thinking about getting a custom PC. For under £1600 i can get an aluminum case with x4 3.2Ghz quad core i7 processors, better graphics, SSD, same RAM and ports.

Its really giving me no incentive to stay with Apple. Installing Snow Leopard on a PC is easy. So i would have the best of both.

What do you all think?
 
doing all that surgery to an iMac and still having a worse machine? Bad news IMO. If you even got a good iMac, you could end up breaking it and ruining your warranty, getting dust under the glass etc. And this is coming from someone who is quite skilled at doing machine work. I've modified a few mac mini's, but an iMac's a different thing.


"quite skilled at doing machine work"....Yet you are scared of and fear moger about the very simple procedure that is dropping an SSD in an iMac? :confused:

Hello OP and welcome to the fold. As others have said if you have the money and the want/need for the 27" now pull the trigger it won't let you down and is a remarkable machine. It will more than do what your workload seems to consist of and WoW looks and plays amazing on it. Is the hardware already (gpu) outdated vs your uber PC? Probably but then again your uber PC will be outdated in a few months as well.
 
Ive been using Macs for over 10 years and they've been great. But im actually thinking about getting a custom PC. For under £1600 i can get an aluminum case with x4 3.2Ghz quad core i7 processors, better graphics, SSD, same RAM and ports.

Its really giving me no incentive to stay with Apple. Installing Snow Leopard on a PC is easy. So i would have the best of both.

What do you all think?

Gotta link for the "x4 3.2Ghz quad core i7 processors"?
 
Mac OS x library folders > windows registry
I don't even know where to begin on the benefits of standalone library folders with all your settings, easily positioned into each user's folder. The os is completely independent of system and App settings, let alone app installs.

One of the greatest parts of mac os. Makes backup/restore of an os a non issue.
 
There is nothing wrong with registry. Just do not install any junk or use software for registry clean-up.

For me, this is one of the main reasons I love OS-X and one of the things I always mention to people (well those who know what a registry is anyway). I was talking to a neighbor who has a Cisco background and he asked about deleting files on a Mac and was suppressed with the "just put the app in the trash" answer. I for one think the registry may have been a good idea in conception--coming from DOS--but in practice just seems to be a wasteland of things that go wrong and for most people--a place that is totally inaccessible.
 
LMAO!! Say hello to increasing the chances of your system being compromised :D

To solve your registry problem, try virtualising your application installs. When you remove a virtualised instance to removes all registry entry made during the install.

My recommendation would be not to install software unless you need it, and only install from a trusted company. Chances are your system might be compromised and is actively being used by someone else.

Absolutely ridiculous solution. :rolleyes: You just confirmed why many people prefer Mac OS X.
 
For me, this is one of the main reasons I love OS-X and one of the things I always mention to people (well those who know what a registry is anyway). I was talking to a neighbor who has a Cisco background and he asked about deleting files on a Mac and was suppressed with the "just put the app in the trash" answer. I for one think the registry may have been a good idea in conception--coming from DOS--but in practice just seems to be a wasteland of things that go wrong and for most people--a place that is totally inaccessible.

since MS fixed the uninstall routine years ago, i rarely have to use the registry anymore
 
LMAO!! Say hello to increasing the chances of your system being compromised :D

To solve your registry problem, try virtualising your application installs. When you remove a virtualised instance to removes all registry entry made during the install.

My recommendation would be not to install software unless you need it, and only install from a trusted company. Chances are your system might be compromised and is actively being used by someone else.

This is a very typical PC user answer.

MOAR USELESS WORK THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

It is like those morons saying "well, my PC works great. I just need to have norton antivirus firewall turbo 2030, reboot once a week, and run system mechanic 3201 every couple of days".

I surely am grateful that Macs do exist.

To the OP, get a Mac immediately. Like, NOW!
 
Absolutely ridiculous solution. :rolleyes: You just confirmed why many people prefer Mac OS X.

Not really. If you over eat then be prepared to work off that extra energy. Otherwise, enjoy having no energy, being overweight and being bloated.

I find it ludicrous that people would install any and whatever software on their system without a second thought on what it may be doing to their system. Think people think!

Mac does have this problem to a certain extent, it's just that mac doesn't have an many software options as windows does. Those who think that mac doesn't are in denial.
 
Not really. If you over eat then be prepared to work off that extra energy. Otherwise, enjoy having no energy, being overweight and being bloated.

I find it ludicrous that people would install any and whatever software on their system without a second thought on what it may be doing to their system. Think people think!

Mac does have this problem to a certain extent, it's just that mac doesn't have an many software options as windows does. Those who think that mac doesn't are in denial.

I find it ludicrous that you have to check up on every single new app you want to try when you're using Windows. Funny how people are afraid of Mac OS X becoming like the iPhone OS with its App Store, when Windows basically does the same. It doesn't force you to directly, but indirectly you're forced to look for new apps on trusted websites like Download.com etc.

I find it ludicrous that I have to run the new apps in a virtual enviroment, risking to lose my work in case of a power failure, a crash (Windows' expertise) or simply a forgettance.

I'm sorry, but yours is not a solution, it's a big, ugly and uncomfortable patch on a serious issue. You can put up with it, fine, but don't call it a solution because it isn't.
 
I find it ludicrous that you have to check up on every single new app you want to try when you're using Windows. Funny how people are afraid of Mac OS X becoming like the iPhone OS with its App Store, when Windows basically does the same. It doesn't force you to directly, but indirectly you're forced to look for new apps on trusted websites like Download.com etc.

I find it ludicrous that I have to run the new apps in a virtual enviroment, risking to lose my work in case of a power failure, a crash (Windows' expertise) or simply a forgettance.

I'm sorry, but yours is not a solution, it's a big, ugly and uncomfortable patch on a serious issue. You can put up with it, fine, but don't call it a solution because it isn't.

What's your point? That you can trust all apps on OS X? There is absolutely no difference between the two (or any other OS to that matter) in this regard.
 
What's your point? That you can trust all apps on OS X? There is absolutely no difference between the two (or any other OS to that matter) in this regard.

There is, as I can try new OS X apps without having to look it up first. The possibilities of being infected are negligible , and the only active malware is detected by the built-in anti malware.

On Windows the chance of geting infected are very high, so you have to do a manual check of every app you want to try. Which is very annoying.
 
There is, as I can try new OS X apps without having to look it up first. The possibilities of being infected are negligible , and the only active malware is detected by the built-in anti malware.

On Windows the chance of geting infected are very high, so you have to do a manual check of every app you want to try.

OK, then I have one very nice free OS X application for you. Do you wanna try it? :)
 
Not really. If you over eat then be prepared to work off that extra energy. Otherwise, enjoy having no energy, being overweight and being bloated.

I find it ludicrous that people would install any and whatever software on their system without a second thought on what it may be doing to their system. Think people think!

Mac does have this problem to a certain extent, it's just that mac doesn't have an many software options as windows does. Those who think that mac doesn't are in denial.


You're in denial. Not as many software options? There are thousands of apps for the Mac. Thats not enough. The problem shouldn't arise regardless of how many software options there are. Period.

Mac's don't have this problem. You're saying if you install too many bad third party apps you will have problems? Really?

Why is it that a Mac can down load as many third party apps and not have any of these problems? It's because of the way the OS file system is set up. I don't have to worry about which third party app might hurt my system.

Most on here have used Windows 7 and the rest of them. So your speaking to the people who know what Window's is does not do and do. You're no expert, so stop pretending to be. We all know Windows shortcomings and it strengths.
 
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