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ght56

macrumors 6502a
Aug 31, 2020
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My 2020 13" mbp "feels" snappier. But VMWare is broken (windows XP virtual machines are abysmally slow), streaming HomeKit secure video now makes the fans scream (on Catalina the fans were silent), mail no longer automatically imports calendar invites from gmail, and the super-rounded window corners waste a lot of screen space. I should have waited a couple months.

The new version of Fusion that was just released works great on Catalina (including XP VMs, even after upgrading the hardware to the latest version). You may want to try 12.1 to see if it works better on Big Sur...I can't say as I am still using Catalina as my host.
 

uller6

macrumors 65816
May 14, 2010
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The new version of Fusion that was just released works great on Catalina (including XP VMs, even after upgrading the hardware to the latest version). You may want to try 12.1 to see if it works better on Big Sur...I can't say as I am still using Catalina as my host.
I never had issues with VMware on Catalina. I upgraded to Fusion 12 while still on Catalina without problems. The problems (lag, stutter, incredibly slow operation) started as soon as I upgraded to Big Sur.
 

ght56

macrumors 6502a
Aug 31, 2020
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I never had issues with VMware on Catalina. I upgraded to Fusion 12 while still on Catalina without problems. The problems (lag, stutter, incredibly slow operation) started as soon as I upgraded to Big Sur.

Might be time to 'upgrade' to Catalina?
 

Loyola

macrumors regular
Sep 9, 2004
247
85
I regret it, an app I absolutely need for work is Bluebeam Revu and the developer discontinued Mac support earlier this year but issued a patch for Catalina. It's broken again (with the upgrade) and the developer has said don't expect an update.
Have you considered using VirtualBox or something similar to run Catalina?

I used VirtualBox to run a Linix OS so I could test using Citrix Workspace. It actually worked pretty well on my 2010 iMac.
 

DWHH1

macrumors member
May 13, 2010
35
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Any of you regret updating from Catalina?
YES. Below the cosmetic front there are a lot of bugs.
Since 'upgrading' to Big Sur 11.0.1 from Catalina (on an iMac 27 inch, late 2017, 64GB RAM) if I try to open a large txt file (~5.5GB) with TextEdit it hangs every time I try to drag the slider, on the right hand side, down to the bottom of the window to read the end of the file. This NEVER happened under Catalina. I have tried opening the same file as a plain text file in Microsoft Word for Mac (ver 16.43) and the Beach Ball also appears then.
 

decypher44

macrumors 68000
Feb 24, 2007
1,812
2,987
Orange County, CA
Are you using a Lexmark, as is the poster on the Apple forum? Just curious.

I installed BS on my old late-2013 MBP to test things out before putting it on my new 2020 iMac. The very first thing I tested was printing and scanning. It’s been critical for me lately. Fortunately, it worked perfectly. I have an HP Envy 5000 series.

I’ve owned a couple of Lexmarks in the past, and they usually had a few issues. Since then, I’ve gone strictly HP.

I hope you’re able to get yours sorted!


They may introduce new "features" but they are never useful. Each OS gets worse and worse. I am happy on Mojave except I already lost Reminders and at some point will lose security features and other things with iOS. I tried Big Sur and printing fails. See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252038432?answerId=253939811022&login=true and it is not just me but many people with many printers...
 

nategold

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2018
16
5
Are you using a Lexmark, as is the poster on the Apple forum? Just curious.

I installed BS on my old late-2013 MBP to test things out before putting it on my new 2020 iMac. The very first thing I tested was printing and scanning. It’s been critical for me lately. Fortunately, it worked perfectly. I have an HP Envy 5000 series.

I’ve owned a couple of Lexmarks in the past, and they usually had a few issues. Since then, I’ve gone strictly HP.

I hope you’re able to get yours sorted!
Yes mine is a Lexmark but at that thread there are many different kinds of printers.
 

Ursadorable

macrumors 6502a
Jul 9, 2013
673
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The Frozen North
Updated a 2018 Mini and a 2015 MPB 13". No issues on either, haven't encountered any bugs with the OS so far. Kinda disappointed that several of the programs I use don't work under Big Sur, and some won't be updated until mid next year. One of which never worked under Catalina either, so...
 

Sowelu

macrumors 6502a
Aug 15, 2008
813
1,012
New York City
I am coming very close to going back to Catalina. Big Sur has been the buggiest OS release I've every experienced from Apple. Clearly not ready, but it had to be released for the new M1 hardware. The 11.1 update needs to be huge and fix some of these issues and lack of options for the features they introduced.

The Music app is also a hot mess, not designed for large libraries. They kept the iTunes bloat, but got rid of all the logical features that it had - and crippled the app.

And on top of the iOS style icons that you cannot change (who wants their Mac to look like an iPad?), the notification system is just awful. They just hang there until you hit that tiny x. Why?

It all feels very cold and unpolished. The only thing I like about Big Sur is the new Finder style. If I can add that to Catalina, I'd be happy.
 

Eric Idle

macrumors 6502a
Jan 4, 2020
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I regret it, an app I absolutely need for work is Bluebeam Revu and the developer discontinued Mac support earlier this year but issued a patch for Catalina. It's broken again (with the upgrade) and the developer has said don't expect an update.

Well, you should have checked on that before. That's all on you, not Apple.
 

flyguy5

macrumors member
Jul 12, 2018
31
74
I cannot drag photos to the top of an album by scrolling up while clicking on a photo? Is this a bug?
 

vanveengames

macrumors newbie
Nov 14, 2020
10
6
Not a damn clue.
TextEdit is unusable, to add to the list of bugs: on larger txt files (100kb+), CMD+Down Arrow no longer takes you to the bottom of the document, just to the point where it has loaded thus far.

In Music, right clicking a song has "add to playlist" as the first option. I have 40 playlists or so, so right clicking a song to access "play next" freezes the whole app for a second or two. On a six core iMac. Inexcusably slow.

Opening two pages documents side by side reduces the framerate to 5 fps after a few hours, only fix is to close both documents, then restart the app, then reopen each.

Spotlight is so much worse in every way :(

New redesign, big improvement in some areas, big step backwards in others. Facetime, messages, mail, app store, numbers and quicktime are notably very ugly I think. I like the new notes, maps, calender, contacts, font book and pages icons. Overall design is a bit cleaner, and some redesigns look simpler but have good power user features.

Big Sur doesn't help me in any way, it just killed spotlight and textedit, things I used a lot, so I regret updating.
 

diggy33

macrumors 65816
Aug 13, 2011
1,324
2,110
Northern Virginia
I ran the developer beta on my 2018 MBP since release, and then wiped and installed once the final version was released. Havent regretted updating at all, and the apps that I use perform without issue. I never ran into any problems with the beta. This weekend I might finally go ahead and update my 16" MBP
 
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