If I was Apple. Maybe.
Rubbing of the salt would be having the performance of a RTX 30-Series GPU and Zen 3-based Threadripper 3900-Series on a Macbook Pro 16" with a 96W charger.
My apologies if my GPU and CPU terminology is mangled.
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Any truth to MB PRO 16 M1 having a soft release next week?
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Rubbing of the salt would be having the performance of a RTX 30-Series GPU and Zen 3-based Threadripper 3900-Series on a Macbook Pro 16" with a 96W charger.
My apologies if my GPU and CPU terminology is mangled.
What's the return period? 30 days? 90 days? If 90 days that's like 1 quarter from November.
I believe that going forward all integrated GPUs will have have the performance of a discreet GPU.
M1 is said to be equivalent to a GeForce 1050 Ti on a less than 15W TDP part.
I have a smoking fast MBA M1 that is replacing a loaded 2020 i7 MBA that I'm taking a huge hit on resale but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I can see the CPU getting close to thread ripper, but claiming the M1x (or whatever it's called) with a likely 30-40 watt Apple dGPU isn't going to come close to 3070/3080 performance anytime soon. Intel's chips were horrible due to x86 shackles forcing significant amounts of die wasted supporting archaic x86 architecture coupled with a hoary 14nm++++ process, but you don't have that in the GPU space which is already highly optimized. In GPU compute Apple could make some serious gains but in gaming not so much.
Yes, as a 16" MBP owner, the graphics would have be much better than the entry level M1.
If the M1 is any indication of it's ability to overtake Intel designed Macs, the next gen will be even more awesome.
I'd just be happy with a 16" glass that does not run so hot that my lap burns and battery life shortened.....
You may be right with a high-end laptop part but high-end iMac part.... I would not be surprised if it happens.
Remember, the M1 with less than 15W TDP has the equivalent GPU of a GeForce 1050 Ti desktop part.
Return period (at least in U.S.) is now extended for the holidays. Buyers here have until 1/8 to return their M1 Macs, so rest assured no new ones will be releasing during that time period.
I am 100% certain that the following Macs will be updated with Apple Silicon chips on a Tuesday between January-April 2021.
- MBP 16"
- MBP 13" with four ports
- Mac mini with four ports
- iMac 21.5" & 27"
The last Mac event was held on a Tuesday, 10 November 2020. A Mac event on March 2021 would make it ~4 months apart.
Macs are historically labeled on what part of the calendar it gets released whether it be "early", "mid" or late".
Example:
- Early 2008 MBP 15"
- Mid-2010 MBP 13"
- Late 2019 MBP 16"
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My best guess is mid to late 2021. They definitely won't release during the holiday return period.
And the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti is a 75 Watt Part (I'm running one on this desktop right now). And it's built on a 14 nm process. I guess my system is real synergy: 14 nm Intel 10700 and 14 nm GPU. I should really get something newer. Unfortunately I don't think that there are newer video cards that are high entry level/low midrange.
Yeah, I think May is probably the earliest we can expect a new 16".. Somewhere between May and September. September seems like a looooooong time to let their flagship notebook sit with comparatively crappy PPW and battery life, though. I think they'll try to be aggressive with the timeline and shoot for May. And that would put the X chip in the middle of the cycle between M1 and M2 (assuming year-long cycles like the A-Series chips).
Or maybe they do a simple M1X internals update in February-March, followed by a redesign in late 2021. Christ, I don't know.
Sadly though Nvidia's Samsung process is quite power hungry even compared to their previous 20XX TSMC predecessors. Not sure if it's Nvidia's new CUDA core design or Samsung's inefficiencies. As long as the top end cards sell out immediately to bots/ebay, low-mid range new gen GPUs aren't coming out soon.
I think we will see a 14" and 16" late next year. With the mini-led display and upgraded M1/M2 SOC.
I was thinking of getting an 8600. It's on 7 nm process and it looks like it would meet my needs (3x4k). It would be overkill (the GTX 1050 Ti is overkill as it is) but the power draw would drop quite a bit. Of course Apple could just release an M1X product and I could just replace this whole workstation.
I wouldn't count on anything - up to and including the Mac Pro - having a fully discrete GPU under Apple Silicon. Maybe the "M1X" will have the GPU on-package (i.e. like the RAM on M1) if it is too big to fit on-die, but the tight GPU/CPU/RAM on the M1 seems to be a large part of its success. My guess (happy to be proved wrong) is that the top-end ASi Macs will have multiple "M1X" chips, each with their own RAM and GPU, rather than Apple trying to make a 28+-core Xeon-W-killer just for the Mac Pro.
...on a more modest scale, I don't see what's not to like about a 16" version of the M1 13" Pro: we're all arguing about whether the M1 it is really up to real-life 8K video editing, but it's certainly going to eat your DTP, web design, spreadsheets and 90% of developer workflows for breakfast - all things for which it would sometimes be nice to have a bigger screen.
Extremely doubtful.
Here's what Mark Gurman wrote a week before the M1 Mac "One More Thing" event...
(the language is key here & I added bold and italics for emphasis)
Mark clearly writes 3 Mac laptops with Apple silicon & singles out one of the 3 as the 16" MBP.
We later learned "further ahead in production" meant "available next Tuesday." The 13s were pretty much ready to go. So then how further behind is the 16" MBP? Seems like it's well on its way if Gurman's reporting on it. He's got a solid track record.
"Beyond the processor switch" reaffirms the next 16" MBP is getting Apple silicon of some kind.
If it was that close to release they would have said it, apple never misses an opportunity to toot their own horn.
Do you even know what the Osborne effect is or how it even works?
Because they need the stability and compatibility. Not every Mac user needs bleeding edge.
Please don't have an aneurism when the transition isn't completed by WWDC 2021. My inner-Jewish mother will worry about you.
I'll be sure to "laugh" react to all of your comments by then.Let us agree to talk this over by late March or WWDC 2021.
I expect Apple to ride this M1 wave for a few months and take all the acclaim they can. They'll release the Mx once things have quietened down and people start expecting the next release, ie next spring at the earliest.
"M1X" for iMac, 16" and 13" Macbook Pro 4 port and 4 port Mac mini on a Tuesday around March