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Any updates on Mac pro 1.1 and mountain lion?
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Pure speculation.
Apple cares about what is best for them, just like all other companies. I seriously doubt they care about what is best for any individual.
Dude, no.
Your thread (which can be found here) is not about EFI64 AT ALL. NOT A SINGLE BIT.
It is about modifying the DP1 install disk through adding drivers and EFI 32-bit package.
"get EFI64 running on older Macs" require FLASHING FIRMWARE on the motherboard - not adding some .kexts on a install disk.
The DP2, afaik, has had the whole 32-bit kernel removed, and your hack won't work.
Not only that. Your guide is shamelessly STOLEN from a guy named Jamie. His guide is here:
http://www.j4mie.co.uk/blog/2012/02/18/how-to-install-mountain-lion-on-macpro11/
You even stole the images.
You can see in the screenshots how you cropped out Jamie's watermark:
Your screenshot:
Jamies screenshot:
Jamie even explicitly stated that "If you are referencing this tutorial Please add a link back to my blog. This has been quite a lot of work to make this is all i ask!"
But you probably wanted some internetz credz. Guess that didn't work out.
I've read that thread. Let me quote one of the participants:
Which is essentially how I feel about it. If you start to go down the bootloader + custom kext path, you are seriously better off selling your MP and get a hackintosh with twice the performance for the money you get. And dedicated forums like insanelymac/tonymac instead of a single thread on netkas.
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That's fair, especially if you've lived through the process of trying to get it working, vaguely working, and now more-or-less working simply. It was brutal at first and you can see the evolution in the thread of how audio, internal ODD SATA ports, USB kernel panics, legacy graphics cards, MBR vs. GPT partitions and finally Mountain Lion developer preview installation issues got solved. And, to your point, if you personally can and enjoy living through and solving such issues, frankly, then you can probably handle a Hackintosh and may be happier and better off with one!
But, now that the issues have been solved, it's simple enough (and it can be done without any custom kexts or modifying Mac OS X in any way) that if someone were to put together some simplified step-by-step directions or were to write a targeted "2006/2007 Mac Pro 64-bit Kernel Enabler"--essentially, a MacPro1,1-configured Chameleon boot loader--then it would be a quick and no-cost life extension to 2006/2007 Mac Pros with no real downside outside of not being an officially supported platform by Apple. No one has done either yet, and that thread remains pretty technical and intimidating if you know nothing about bootloaders since they aren't normally needed by genuine Apple Macs.
My prediction is that after Mac OS X Mountain Lion 10.8 ships, I expect that someone will put together a super simple "idiot-proof" set of directions, followed quickly by an automated installer upgrade path from Lion for 2006/2007 Mac Pros using the techniques in that thread.
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You know at this point i'm pretty happy with my Mac Pro 1,1 as it sits with 10.7.4. I put a 570 GTX in it. I already have windows 7 64 bit bootcamp installed. I would be ok remaining on Lion for the remainder of its life. Unless some of the apps that i use start to require ML than i'll just stay put.
ronodcap think we can put this in the 'slim chance' category.
It is called planned obsolescence and it happened to PowerPC machines with the introduction of Snow Leopard and will happen gain with Mountain Lion to 32bit EFI machines alas. For me it is either continue with Lion on a fast upgraded machine recording a Geekbench score of 9118 our lash out on a 4.1 or 5.1 Mac Pro.
For the money will stick with my Mac Pro 2.1 for some time yet.
It is called planned obsolescence and it happened to PowerPC machines with the introduction of Snow Leopard and will happen gain with Mountain Lion to 32bit EFI machines alas. For me it is either continue with Lion on a fast upgraded machine recording a Geekbench score of 9118 our lash out on a 4.1 or 5.1 Mac Pro.
For the money will stick with my Mac Pro 2.1 for some time yet.
The Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion developer previews run in 64-bit kernel mode on a MacPro1,1/2,1 if you boot using a recent Chameleon boot loader. It's highly likely that means the final release will similarly work in that environment.
My prediction was that someone will take the information in the "Booting the 64-bit kernel on the 2006/2007 Mac Pro" thread on netkas that describe how to set it up into a simple step-by-step and/or installer.
I hope someone comes up with an idiot proof method of installing ML. I have tried but keep backing away, I know my wife will be saying I told you so if it goes wrong...
yeah me too, I'll wait for "1,1 upgrade to ML for Dummies", and generally speaking, chameleons scare me with their staring ugly eyes.
In the meanwhile, can anyone please explain what is going on here?
http://swegen.blogspot.de/2011/07/bo...-lion-and.html
will the patch (x64patch-10.8-dp1.tbz) for ML make 1,1 64it EFI? what is the difference with Chameleon?
thanks in advance.
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If I read it correctly, sounds like someone's done it. Some one has found a way to make the 1,1 and 2,1 Mac Pros be able to support booting under 64-bit kernel. I would try it out for you, but my Mac Pro is a 5,1.
Perhaps, you can be the one to test if this does indeed allow finally 64-bit Kernel booting support. If it does, great!
Perhaps, you can be the one to test if this does indeed allow finally 64-bit Kernel booting support. If it does, great!
Thanks a lot for taking a look at it. I would love to try, but my 1,1 is my bread, if something screws, I am dead.
If indeed someone has come up with a way to make for the 1st time 1,1 and 2,1 Mac Pros true EFI64, then this could revive the 1,1 and 2,1 to be considered as adequate Mac Pros for Mountain Lion.
I think this patch still requires a machine with EFI64 and is instead a patch for efi.boot. It looks to simply enable booting of a 64 bit kernel on the handful of machines that Apple made that had EFI64 but were shipped with graphics cards with no 64 bit drivers available.
I've run it on my 1,1 in SL with no effect.
I've run it on my 1,1 in SL with no effect.
So, this hack does not allow 64-bit EFI on 1,1 or 2,1 Mac Pros. I must have read it wrong then.
There are two ways people are doing it. One way is to use Chameleon to boot the 64bit kernel. Another way is to use a modified boot.efi file that forces the 32bit EFI to boot the 64bit kernel. I was able to install and run ML using the modified boot.efi on my Mac Pro (a 1,1 system upgraded to 2,1 firmware). The only problem I've found is I start to run into issues when I put more than 8GB of RAM in my system (kernel panics or activity monitor reporting less memory than the system detects). Also, although my video card is the one that shipped with the 2008 Mac Pro (Nvidia 8800GT), I get an error saying the video card isn't supported when opening aperture and am noticing occasional video issues. If I reboot into Lion, I can run aperture just fine.
Is there a list anywhere in the net what gpu's have 64bit drivers for 10.8?
(I currently have x1900xt...)
(I currently have x1900xt...)