Anybody else switching to iOS until they stop ruining Android

[epicrayban]

I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up here yet, but:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Jony...-hardware-design-in-the-same-capacity_id88076

Jony Ive no longer involved in Apple physical hardware design in the same capacity?

In the latest episode of long-time Apple blogger John Gruber's Talk Show, guesting SixColors founder Jason Snell briefly touched on design chief Jony Ive's current role in the Cupertino company. Mr. Snell has heard that that Jony Ive is currently not as involved in physical hardware design as he used to be. Rather, he's been largely focused on architecture matters, such as Apple's "spaceship" campus and the company's retail stores. He's working closely with Apple retail executive Angela Arhendts on these cases.

If true, this means that Jony Ive won't directly mastermind the rumored all-screen iPhone 8. Scheduled for 2017, the device is said to have an OLED display with an embedded touch-based haptic home button. Meanwhile, some argue that the recently released "Designed by Apple in California" photo book is part of Ive's prolonged retirement. For example, he's been seen very little in Apple advertising in the past few years, mostly being present as a background voice for product design movies shown at keynotes. He's also not attending all Apple events, despite his high-level position of Chief Design Officer.

As with all internal Apple matters, it's hard to be absolutely sure about anything. Still, even if Jony Ive is no longer crafting iPhones by himself, his work for Apple over the past 20 years will leave a lasting legacy for the company's design team to follow.


That'll be huge if true. Not sure how I feel about it. While the iPhone can clearly use fresh new direction, Ive is a staple at Apple.

 

[apolloa]

I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up here yet, but:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Jony...-hardware-design-in-the-same-capacity_id88076

Jony Ive no longer involved in Apple physical hardware design in the same capacity?

In the latest episode of long-time Apple blogger John Gruber's Talk Show, guesting SixColors founder Jason Snell briefly touched on design chief Jony Ive's current role in the Cupertino company. Mr. Snell has heard that that Jony Ive is currently not as involved in physical hardware design as he used to be. Rather, he's been largely focused on architecture matters, such as Apple's "spaceship" campus and the company's retail stores. He's working closely with Apple retail executive Angela Arhendts on these cases.

If true, this means that Jony Ive won't directly mastermind the rumored all-screen iPhone 8. Scheduled for 2017, the device is said to have an OLED display with an embedded touch-based haptic home button. Meanwhile, some argue that the recently released "Designed by Apple in California" photo book is part of Ive's prolonged retirement. For example, he's been seen very little in Apple advertising in the past few years, mostly being present as a background voice for product design movies shown at keynotes. He's also not attending all Apple events, despite his high-level position of Chief Design Officer.

As with all internal Apple matters, it's hard to be absolutely sure about anything. Still, even if Jony Ive is no longer crafting iPhones by himself, his work for Apple over the past 20 years will leave a lasting legacy for the company's design team to follow.


That'll be huge if true. Not sure how I feel about it. While the iPhone can clearly use fresh new direction, Ive is a staple at Apple.

I can well believe this, take a look at the new MacBook Pro, fake speaker grills and the slats in the sides for airflow and the speakers are one long thin slot with sharp edges! Ive would of Brocken those up surely? So maybe he's been so busy pretending to be an architect he's not been doing his job of consumer electronic industry design head?

 

[Wolfpup]

I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up here yet, but:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Jony...-hardware-design-in-the-same-capacity_id88076

Jony Ive no longer involved in Apple physical hardware design in the same capacity?

In the latest episode of long-time Apple blogger John Gruber's Talk Show, guesting SixColors founder Jason Snell briefly touched on design chief Jony Ive's current role in the Cupertino company. Mr. Snell has heard that that Jony Ive is currently not as involved in physical hardware design as he used to be. Rather, he's been largely focused on architecture matters, such as Apple's "spaceship" campus and the company's retail stores. He's working closely with Apple retail executive Angela Arhendts on these cases.

If true, this means that Jony Ive won't directly mastermind the rumored all-screen iPhone 8. Scheduled for 2017, the device is said to have an OLED display with an embedded touch-based haptic home button. Meanwhile, some argue that the recently released "Designed by Apple in California" photo book is part of Ive's prolonged retirement. For example, he's been seen very little in Apple advertising in the past few years, mostly being present as a background voice for product design movies shown at keynotes. He's also not attending all Apple events, despite his high-level position of Chief Design Officer.

As with all internal Apple matters, it's hard to be absolutely sure about anything. Still, even if Jony Ive is no longer crafting iPhones by himself, his work for Apple over the past 20 years will leave a lasting legacy for the company's design team to follow.


That'll be huge if true. Not sure how I feel about it. While the iPhone can clearly use fresh new direction, Ive is a staple at Apple.

The iPhone 7 ALREADY has a touch based haptic home button, and I hope they don't switch to OLED...

I'm pretty doubtful about these claims considering we've SEEN him talking about this stuff directly, but it's not like he's the only person who can design stuff. (And while his designs are aesthetically appealing they're not that great for housing computers...)

 

[Tsepz]

Samsung's a complete non-starter as their devices don't get updates. The only real Android choice is Nexus/Pixel...and Google's dumping support for the Nexus 6 just 2 years after launch, which is pathetic.

Hopefully Apple's committed to doing 5 years of support. That's actually not great either, but in a world where Google dumps support after 2 years, and other devices are never up to date, it's great. (Hopefully Microsoft will support the ARM version of Windows 10 the same way they support regular Windows 10, but guess it remains to be seen.)

Wow!

I must be imagining the monthly security updates my over 2yrld Samsung Galaxy Note 4 still gets.

 

[epicrayban]

I can well believe this, take a look at the new MacBook Pro, fake speaker grills and the slats in the sides for airflow and the speakers are one long thin slot with sharp edges! Ive would of Brocken those up surely? So maybe he's been so busy pretending to be an architect he's not been doing his job of consumer electronic industry design head?

It might explain this:

But in all seriousness, if it's true, it'll be really interesting to see how Apple's design and aesthetics take shape in the coming years. Plenty of areas it can use work in, especially in the iPhone.

 

[Michael Scrip]

It might explain this:

While I agree that Apple's hump looks odd... I'd actually prefer it to normal battery cases that are big all over:

Plus its ability to use a Lightning cable is a great bonus too.

 

[C DM]

While I agree that Apple's hump looks odd... I'd actually prefer it to normal battery cases that are big all over:

Plus its ability to use a Lightning cable is a great bonus too.

Quite a few people also like how it feels as far as grip and how it works in general. Mostly it comes down to one of those judging a book by its cover type of things.

 

[jamezr]

It might explain this:

But in all seriousness, if it's true, it'll be really interesting to see how Apple's design and aesthetics take shape in the coming years. Plenty of areas it can use work in, especially in the iPhone.

That case is horrendously ugly. I would never have that on my 7+. Then it would rock like a rocking chair when on it's back. Who puts their phones face down anyway? That would potentially scratch the screen or screen protector.

 

[Lloydbm41]

It might explain this:

But in all seriousness, if it's true, it'll be really interesting to see how Apple's design and aesthetics take shape in the coming years. Plenty of areas it can use work in, especially in the iPhone.

It started back with the 5c case. Everything seemed to start changing little by little, as if there were no one in charge to say, "Alright! Who's the moron that puts holes in the back of this case and doesn't put it on an iPhone to see that the iPhone logo on the phone is partially covered? Start over!" <-- Steve Jobs would have. He also would have thrown that battery case in the trash!

And fake speaker grills, plus soldered ram and hard drives on the new MacBook Pro 's. Ugghg

 

[jamezr]

It started back with the 5c case. Everything seemed to start changing little by little, as if there were no one in charge to say, "Alright! Who's the moron that puts holes in the back of this case and doesn't put it on an iPhone to see that the iPhone logo on the phone is partially covered? Start over!" <-- Steve Jobs would have. He also would have thrown that battery case in the trash!

And fake speaker grills, plus soldered ram and hard drives on the new MacBook Pro 's. Ugghg

Guess what laptop this guy is testing?

https://twitter.com/Jon4Lakers/status/801229095832993792
https://twitter.com/austinnotduncan/status/801231645982347264

 

[Michael Scrip]

Guess what laptop this guy is testing?

https://twitter.com/Jon4Lakers/status/801229095832993792
https://twitter.com/austinnotduncan/status/801231645982347264

LOL... true.

But let's be honest... he's trying to plug NINE wires into a laptop. (including a SuperDrive?!?!)

Even a 2015 Macbook Pro would still be a mess of various wires and/or hubs with that many things plugged into it.

The previous MBP had two USB-A ports, two Thunderbolt ports, an HDMI port and one power port. That's only space for six of those wires.

He'd still need another hub to connect this spaghetti of all NINE wires.

Maybe we need an asterisk on these photos with a note saying "results not typical"

I'm still trying to figure out who we should me mad at...

Apple for switching to four USB-C/Thunderbolt ports... or the USB Consortium for changing the shape of the USB port after 20 years.

At least these USB-C/Thunderbolt ports are finally the "one port to rule them all" as they can become anything you want.

The old USB-A ports... on the other hand... only did one thing.

I can actually see where we are heading. Apple just might have gotten there a little too soon.

 

[jamezr]

LOL... true.

But let's be honest... he's trying to plug NINE wires into a laptop. (including a SuperDrive?!?!)

Even a 2015 Macbook Pro would still be a mess of various wires and/or hubs with that many things plugged into it.

The previous MBP had two USB-A ports, two Thunderbolt ports, an HDMI port and one power port. That's only space for six of those wires.

He'd still need another hub to connect this spaghetti of all NINE wires.

Maybe we need an asterisk on these photos with a note saying "results not typical"

I'm still trying to figure out who we should me mad at...

Apple for switching to four USB-C/Thunderbolt ports... or the USB Consortium for changing the shape of the USB port after 20 years.

At least these USB-C/Thunderbolt ports are finally the "one port to rule them all" as they can become anything you want.

The old USB-A ports... on the other hand... only did one thing.

I can actually see where we are heading. Apple just might have gotten there a little too soon.

I think i am the most upset about the MagSafe connectors to be honest.
I have a 2015 rMBP and battery life isn't what it used to be. I was looking at getting a new MBP. But I think I will hang onto mine for a while.

 

[epicrayban]

I have to believe even if the Ive story is true, he's had or will have had a big hand in designing the iPhone 8 for next year. 2017 may finally see an iPhone that takes back the reigns of smartphone designs.

Too bad if the rumors of supply constraints hold true, to get the best out of this new iPhone, you'd have to shell out for the highest tier version.

EDIT: Ive is as involved as ever.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/23/jony-ive-speculation-role/

Following all of this, Gruber yesterday posted a new blog to clear up his original statement. He reiterated on the second and third-hand sources speaking of Ive's status in the company, stating that no one has directly mentioned Ive has stopped overseeing Apple's day-to-day product design, but what he's heard is from sources who "think" he has. After addressing the nuance he meant to convey during his podcast, Gruber admitted that he's in fact heard from "well-placed sources within Apple" that Ive is as devoted and involved as ever.


Front page also has another rumor pointing to iPhone 8 being all glass.

 

[apolloa]

Guess what laptop this guy is testing?

https://twitter.com/Jon4Lakers/status/801229095832993792
https://twitter.com/austinnotduncan/status/801231645982347264

Wow that's one huge ugly mess.. think different, I won't be surprised to see Apple offer an exclusive overpriced dock, that no one is licenced to make.

 

[Mcmeowmers]

I want to like Android but so many apps have wide ranging permissions. Why does Netflix need to view my entire browser history? To look for bookmarks? Come on... that should be asked AFTER installing not during

 

[C DM]

I want to like Android but so many apps have wide ranging permissions. Why does Netflix need to view my entire browser history? To look for bookmarks? Come on... that should be asked AFTER installing not during

It's not even so much that it should be asked after installing but that each permission item should be separate so that only the truly necessary ones could be granted and the rest are up to the user.

 

[mi7chy]

I want to like Android but so many apps have wide ranging permissions. Why does Netflix need to view my entire browser history? To look for bookmarks? Come on... that should be asked AFTER installing not during

Where do you see browser history? Are you confusing with movie search history within the app for smart suggestions based on what you watch?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient

This app has access to:
In-app purchases
Device & app history

• retrieve running apps

Identity

• find accounts on the device

Contacts

• find accounts on the device

Phone

• read phone status and identity

Microphone

• record audio

Wi-Fi connection information

• view Wi-Fi connections

Device ID & call information

• read phone status and identity

Other

• receive data from Internet
• view network connections
• pair with Bluetooth devices
• allow Wi-Fi Multicast reception
• full network access
• change your audio settings
• prevent device from sleeping

 

[Kevin.Richards]

I shifted to iPhone when I completely bricked my Android mobile and Google services and OS kept on crashing.