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Michael Goff

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I think Google may have to go the Windows' route to minimize fragmentation since Microsoft controls the bios and the manufacturer then puts their junk on top of the OS.

I hope they do, and I also hope it doesn’t cost them literally billions of dollars in EU fines. You know they’ll fine people just for laughs, after all.
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Not if the best other choice is Samsung. Would rather go back to a 3310.

As an iPhone user, I can say that Samsung makes damn good phones. If you get one with 6gb of RAM, the experience is even really good. I should know, I had a Note8.
 

Michael Goff

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Hated it, too tall, curved screen, dog of an OS. imo.

Ah, it was a phone that didn’t mesh well with your hands. I can dig it. I don’t know what you mean by dog of an OS, though. The launcher sucked, but I used Nova and that cut down on my issues.
 

GigabitEthernet

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All Google apps work much more seamlessly with better integration on android.

Most 3rd party apps work better with background processing in android. E.g. on iPhone you have to waste time to wait for data sync to finish before closing app.

Never experienced this.

Most 3rd party plug-in like keyboard apps are much better on android. Apps in iPhone run in silo. On android apps can interact with each other in real time in true multitasking fashion.

They can on iOS.

In terms of usability you have the ridiculous iphone workflow where you have to close the app to access app settings in the global Setting.

Only on some apps.

Due to the power of Android multitasking, apps can run in popup window which isn't available in iPhone. Plus app can continue to run in minimised window so you can temporarily attend to some other tasks.

Yes it is, on certain apps.

It sounds like you last used an iPhone a very long time ago...
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This is the point of Treble, no? We're already seeing it with phones like the OP6 already running the P Beta.
 
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Michael Goff

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Never experienced this.



They can on iOS.



Only on some apps.



Yes it is, on certain apps.

It sounds like you last used an iPhone a very long time ago...
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This is the point of Treble, no? We're already seeing it with phones like the OP6 already running the P Beta.

The point of Treble was to make it easier to update by making it less of a giant blob update. Imagine if you’re an OEM and you had to wait for Qualcomm to get back to you to update the driver. That’s going to slow everything down. That was one example.
 

GigabitEthernet

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The point of Treble was to make it easier to update by making it less of a giant blob update. Imagine if you’re an OEM and you had to wait for Qualcomm to get back to you to update the driver. That’s going to slow everything down. That was one example.

Got you, shame Qualcomm abandon their chipsets after I think 2-3 years? This is one area where iOS is massively ahead.
 
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Michael Goff

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Got you, shame Qualcomm abandon their chipsets after I think 2-3 years? This is one area where iOS is massively ahead.

Yeah, that’s where Treble is going to help. Let me give a real life example. The Galaxy Nexus used a chip from a company that went out of the business before the two year mark of the phone existing. And that killed the idea of updating easily.
 
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nviz22

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Got you, shame Qualcomm abandon their chipsets after I think 2-3 years? This is one area where iOS is massively ahead.

I think Google is going to develop its own SoCs using HTC's resources. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the first generation this fall. If not, they may have an acquisition in mind to develop their chipset.
 

borgranta

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Hated it, too tall, curved screen, dog of an OS. imo.
The only good thing about the OS is the ability to sort email alphabetically by sender or subject. That being said if deleting dozens of emails it is extremely slow.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Sure did, flipped it for $200, you want the sale invoice?
Well...that is your fault, and only hurts your credibility, doesn't it? The phone is worth way more than $200. I would advertise that.

I truly dislike Samsung as a copy, due to the hell they put me through returning a Note 8 I purchased from them. It took 4 months, and hours upon hours of infuriating interactions with customer service. Once I got the attorney general's office involved, they eventually refunded me my money.

But, I would be a liar if I said that phone wasn't a great phone. It just didn't work, unlocked, very well with my carrier, and I am not willing to buy a phone from a carrier store. But the phone itself was a splendid phone. Great screen, great feel in the hand, the camera was fantastic, the spen useful, and the mutlitasking is better than my current iPhone X (which is probably my favorite phone ever).

I think the Pixel phone is the best android experience, and I really hope Google ups their game this next round, and doesn't let us down in one particular area, like the screen on the XL2. The screen isn't a deal breaker, my wife loves it, but it is behind the competition.

I love my iPhone X. It's super reliable, its productive thanks to 3rd party apps like fantastical, it's a beautiful phone, the screen and camera are gorgeous...but most of all it works with my Apple watch. The Apple watch is what has ingrained me in the Apple eco-system, for now. I have other ios products, but the Apple watch is what keeps me. So, until there is a good level alternative (I have tried the gears 3 in the past, owned it for a few months, but didn't like it nearly as much), I am likely to stay with iOS.

But if google releases a good watch, I am likely to give the Pixel a try again, if the hardware is up to par. I heavily use google services, and Android just does that a little bit better. But, if I never leave iOS, I will still be happy with it. My phone has become a productivity device, and extension of my professional life. I used to have time to customize, root, etc. Now, my phone is essential to my work life, home life, and fitness. That is why the Apple watch ties me in, because otherwise, a Pixel running android is a bit more productive, in some ways.
 

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Holy crap why is there no option to turn off the edge screen!?!?!?

My partner, who is 5 foot nothing, and hence has small hands and is a woman, therefore needs the worlds largest phone for some unknown reason, constantly bitches about the phone spazzing out as she tries to click something in the middle of the screen, as her palm activates the edge part of the phone.

Why is there no option to turn off touching the edge if you bump it?
 
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BlueGoldAce

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$200 profit ;)

Ahh. I apologize then, sorry for making that assumption.

$200 profit, nice job. Samsung phones drop in value pretty quickly, so awesome score there.

It will be a long time before I buy another Samsung product (mobile or other). I honestly didn’t know customer service could be that bad or incompetent.

If I ever leave iOS again, it will be for the Pixel.
 
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