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I will keep my iPad Air on 10.3.3 at least until Christmas. Reasons: possible optimization for older devices in later .X releases and observation of the destiny of several 32 bit apps I have and like.
 
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iOS 11 on the iPad of course. Stick with 10.3.3 on iPhone until their is a reason to upgrade. Most of the key features advertised (iMessage Apple Pay for example) and missing from release....so no real reason to update as the feature set for the phone is weak.
 
It is always wise to wait for at least a .1 or even .2 update. Let's be honest, there are millions of iDevices out there. Apple cannot just create a bug-free OS from day 1.

Sorry, this is funny to me. Apple control the hardware and the OS software, and they prevent any other developer or application from making changes outside of their very strictly defined criteria. The number of devices out there is irrelevant, as they're all the same. It's not like Microsoft making Windows and literally having to take into account every possible hardware combination.

There's no real reason why iOS can't be pretty damn solid on day 1, because there are next to no variables. Of course, it's still a lot of work, but Apple make their own schedules. They could push things back if they really wanted to.
 
Sorry, this is funny to me. Apple control the hardware and the OS software, and they prevent any other developer or application from making changes outside of their very strictly defined criteria. The number of devices out there is irrelevant, as they're all the same. It's not like Microsoft making Windows and literally having to take into account every possible hardware combination.

There's no real reason why iOS can't be pretty damn solid on day 1, because there are next to no variables. Of course, it's still a lot of work, but Apple make their own schedules. They could push things back if they really wanted to.
Look at game consoles. Those are even more restrictive platforms, yet bugs still exist on their firmware. To err is human. Unlike you, I like to keep things simple. To avoid being disappointed with .0 bugs, I'll just wait for .1 I don't see the point in rushing to install a GM release and then whine and moan if there's a bug or two. Save myself the trouble.
 
I don't find 10.3.3 all that great. It's not buttery smooth and the battery life isn't blowing me away. I'll give 11 a shot on all the devices and if it's unbearable, I'll just downgrade. No need to avoid iOS 11 without trying it.
 
Look at game consoles. Those are even more restrictive platforms, yet bugs still exist on their firmware. To err is human. Unlike you, I like to keep things simple. To avoid being disappointed with .0 bugs, I'll just wait for .1 I don't see the point in rushing to install a GM release and then whine and moan if there's a bug or two. Save myself the trouble.

They're equally restrictive, and it's true bugs get through, but it's mainly because they CAN. The Internet allows manufacturers to be lazy. The NES, SNES, Master System, MegaDrive, GameBoy, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, etc. etc. didn't get bug fixes. The manufacturers worked hard to ensure there were no major bugs left before they went to public release.

Obviously there might be minor bugs (all software has them), but definitely nothing major. They simply couldn't afford it.

Apple used to stand alone by keeping the same high quality ethic even when they didn't have to. They would withhold features they didn't think were perfect, instead of giving users features that were unfinished. It was only really because they controlled the hardware and the software that they could do this. As soon as Jobs died, however, we got Apple Maps, the biggest unfinished feature in iOS history. Although they've not made such a huge mistake since, the quality and thought just doesn't seem to be as deep as it once was.

They could make iOS buttery smooth again if they really wanted to. Even from day one.
 
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If you have an iPhone 7 and like the current feel of your home button response time and overall speed stay on 10.3.3.

If you want your phone to get a little bit slower overall and introduce a new time delay to your iPhone 7 home button "upgrade" to iOS 11.

It's a no brainer for me.
 
Updated my 7+ to iOS 11 the other day I'm keeping my Air 2 on iOS 10 to keep my jailbreak.
 
Me. There's no benefit of iOS 11 on my 6S Plus.

I don't get the new video/photo formats. All the apps will still work and look the same. And iOS 10.x performs great.

But I'm sure this is what Apple wants people to do. Install the OS on an older phone and hope you get fed up with the lousy performance that you just buy a new phone. Not me buddy.
 
I'm sticking with iOS 10 on an iPhone cuz it's a 5...and I have no choice (OK, admittedly an older, semi broken phone).

But I will upgrade my 7+ for the photography benefits and somewhat better file management. It would be a no-brainer on an iPad Pro, since some of the work on iOS 11 was especially geared to that.

And if you've got 32bit apps you need, you'd better hold off.

And any release can have issues. Some get fixed, some appear. I find it easier to manage with steady upgrading, rather than trying to guess what'll work. And I want the security fixes as soon as I can get 'em.
 
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At least initially? I'll probably hold off until 11.0.1 drops in a couple weeks or so. Mainly because I'm concerned about my battery draining quickly, which seems to always be the issue for me after a major iOS update.
It's an issue everybody experiences after an iOS update. The OS has to re-index and cache everything. Once that completes battery life returns to normal. iOS 11 is very stable and after the first 24 hours my battery barely moves. I end the day with a little above 50% remaining. I have an iPhone 7+ so base your comparisons off that.
 
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They're equally restrictive, and it's true bugs get through, but it's mainly because they CAN. The Internet allows manufacturers to be lazy. The NES, SNES, Master System, MegaDrive, GameBoy, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, etc. etc. didn't get bug fixes. The manufacturers worked hard to ensure there were no major bugs left before they went to public release.

Obviously there might be minor bugs (all software has them), but definitely nothing major. They simply couldn't afford it.

Apple used to stand alone by keeping the same high quality ethic even when they didn't have to. They would withhold features they didn't think were perfect, instead of giving users features that were unfinished. It was only really because they controlled the hardware and the software that they could do this. As soon as Jobs died, however, we got Apple Maps, the biggest unfinished feature in iOS history. Although they've not made such a huge mistake since, the quality and thought just doesn't seem to be as deep as it once was.

They could make iOS buttery smooth again if they really wanted to. Even from day one.
Actually all the systems you mentioned did get bug fixes. However they weren't able to get those fixes to customers. You would have to repurchase the games or consoles to receive the updates. Bugs happen in software.
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Jailbreak > security updates
Except for that Bluetooth security hole, what is called BlueBorne. Yeah you might want to check into that.
 
This is an easy choice, I use 3D Touch Multitasking all day because of the way I hold the phone it makes it a lot easier, and peeking at the previous app is useful sometimes. I also use the wish list in the App Store a lot, which is also gone, and the new version of iTunes on the Mac also removed it. And my choice is... I’m upgrading because I want to use watchOS 4. Ugh.
 
I will stick with iOS 10 until someone confirms it's possible to do this in 11:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-do-i-backup-my-apps.1986712/

Using iTunes 12.6.2.20.
Your backups from iTunes do the same as iCloud. Your phone redownloads them anyway and have been doing so since iOS 9.

"With iOS 9 or later, apps will not sync or transfer to iTunes via Transfer Purchases. If you would like to download your apps to your iTunes library, make sure to turn on Automatic Downloads for your iTunes purchases. You can also download past purchases."

https://www.macworld.com/article/3125509/iphone-ipad/more-on-backing-up-your-ios-device.html
 
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I'll try on my iPad pro. But my 1Gb memory 6+ is certainly never getting the IOS11 update. The way older devices slow down with each new IOS is really annoying me, and the 1Gb devices are in for a kill from apple this time. Its way way way to slow as it is on IOS 10 - no need to make it worse :)
 
Your backups from iTunes...
Here's the thing:

1) I saved the .IPAs from all my apps. They are not in iTunes. I saved the files elsewhere. With iTunes 12.6.2.20 I can upload them to my device by dragging and dropping the file itself (with the IPA extension) to iTunes. That will add the app to my device without any need to use the internet.

2) When we do a backup from iOS we do not save any app physically. That means we are redownloading all apps and if any of them are removed from the Apple Store, they will not be restored to your device.

Doing what I said in 1) will bypass that. For example, months ago I saved ProTube (now unavailable in Apple-Store) last version. If I buy a new iPAD or iPhone I'll have to do 1) to continue using this app. There's no other way.

The question is: will iOS 11 prevent 1) or not? Consider that Apple already got rid of that possibility with the last iTunes version.
 
My iPad Pro already has 11 from the public beta GM but I'm holding off with my 7+. The only reason I am is for the 3D Touch app switching gesture but I'm getting the 8+ this Friday so I'll be stuck with iOS 11 at that point
 
I just reverted back to iOS 10 from iOS 11 because of the laggy animations. I've had the GM installed since it was announced and the lag never went away. I figure I will wait until .1 comes out and might address the laggy animations.

This happens every year. The betas are laggy, people complain, then other people say "it's just a beta, it will be worked out before release" but it never is and we get a release build that is slower than the previous iOS. Then, people complain about the release build "why didn't they work out the bugs?" And people respond with "it's version x.0, you have to wait until version x.1 for stability"

Frankly, I'm sick of always waiting for my device to work the way it should've from the beginning.

I'm gonna hold off on iOS 11 and stay on 10.3.3 because as far as I can tell, this is a perfectly stable and fast iOS with little to know issues (for me).
 
They're equally restrictive, and it's true bugs get through, but it's mainly because they CAN. The Internet allows manufacturers to be lazy. The NES, SNES, Master System, MegaDrive, GameBoy, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, etc. etc. didn't get bug fixes. The manufacturers worked hard to ensure there were no major bugs left before they went to public release.

Obviously there might be minor bugs (all software has them), but definitely nothing major. They simply couldn't afford it.

Apple used to stand alone by keeping the same high quality ethic even when they didn't have to. They would withhold features they didn't think were perfect, instead of giving users features that were unfinished. It was only really because they controlled the hardware and the software that they could do this. As soon as Jobs died, however, we got Apple Maps, the biggest unfinished feature in iOS history. Although they've not made such a huge mistake since, the quality and thought just doesn't seem to be as deep as it once was.

They could make iOS buttery smooth again if they really wanted to. Even from day one.
You know who waited and made sure to release things when they thought things were perfect? The Japanese companies. And guess how successful they are today. Sony? Canon? Panasonic? They are bleeding money as they cannot keep up with the intense cycle of technology. As a company, there's only so much you can do. You cannot just wait and wait. In the highly competitive market like smartphone, you have to be brave enough to release things quickly and prepare to fix things when it breaks.

At least Apple kept a good balance between quality and feature releases.

And stop bringing Jobs into every argument. We got MobileMe under him, so there's that.
 
Just downgraded back 10 because swipe down will no longer remember your preference of which page to be on, making using Hue widgets to control my lights very inconvenient.

On the whole things felt a bit less smooth too, but I never really let the phone finish all the background stuff it's doing after a major update so it could have just been that.

I can't name one must have feature so I'll stick with 10 for now.
 
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