Anyone else think the iMac looks, for lack of a better word, “feminine”?

[DSTOFEL]

He also said they were designed for women. Which is sexist.

Is pink a male or female color? Please answer this question specifically.

In your opinion...saying the mac’s were designed for women is sexist. Another way to look at it is that...it’s just his opinion. Big deal! If you think differently, then have your opinion and go on with life.

The question is not what I think about the imac‘s design or colors. The focus instead is on why people feel the need to attack the OP for expressing his opinion and for using a word, that’s in the English dictionary, to describe the colors of the new mac’s (ie feminine). Fine...if that’s the way he sees it, then that’s the way he sees it. I guess he won’t be buying one. 🤷. He could have just as easily said the colors appeared to him playful, or childish or whimsical. Would those word choices have been offensive to you too? Or is it just the word Feminine? Is he only allowed to say “the colors appear to me to be truly utilitarian”?

 

[TiggrToo]

If you think differently, then have your opinion and go on with life.

Odd you don't practice what you preach.

Thanks for not answering my question.

 

[DSTOFEL]

You are conveniently forgetting that the OP called everybody that disagrees with him a liar. Not a great way to win friends and influence people in my experience.

And that’s really beside the point. You and others might not think his style of communication is the best. Just the the sake of argument, I’ll give you that point. That still doesn’t give you and others the green light to attribute to the OP the motives that you’ve outlined in your posts (ie that he’s ridiculing to women and thinks them inferior). Someone is fighting a war between the sexes here and I’m not sure it’s the OP.

 

[DSTOFEL]

Odd you don't practice what you preach.

Thanks for not answering my question.

Practice what I preach? And...what is it that I preach? Since you’re so good at attributing motives to people...enlighten me on mine!

 

[TiggrToo]

Practice what I preach? And...what is it that I preach? Since you’re so good at attributing motives to people...enlighten me on mine!

If you think differently, then have your opinion and go on with life.

 

[DSTOFEL]

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[DSTOFEL]

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[DSTOFEL]

Odd you don't practice what you preach.

Thanks for not answering my question.

I see you can’t quite answer mine either😉

 

[SuperMatt]

And that’s really beside the point. You and others might not think his style of communication is the best. Just the the sake of argument, I’ll give you that point. That still doesn’t give you and others the green light to attribute to the OP the motives that you’ve outlined in your posts (ie that he’s ridiculing to women and thinks them inferior). Someone is fighting a war between the sexes here and I’m not sure it’s the OP.

If one wants to put forward outdated, sexist, unpopular opinions, and then call anybody who disagrees with them a liar, one should expect some backlash. If one then feels ”attacked” then one should have avoided making such comments in the first place. I believe the saying is “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

Freedom of speech is NOT freedom from criticism.

One thing we should be able to agree on: The Rock, The Hulkster, or Randy Savage wouldn‘t have somebody else fight for them; they’d stand behind their words instead of behind somebody else doing the fighting for them. That, plus their taste in colorful clothing, seems to me to be far more “macho” behavior than that of some self-described “macho” men equating certain colors with certain genders.

 

[TiggrToo]

I see you can’t quite answer mine either😉

I did. I posted your reply asking why we don't move on. Sonething you are apparently unable to do yet expect others to do.

 

[DSTOFEL]

If one wants to put forward outdated, sexist, unpopular opinions, and then call anybody who disagrees with them a liar, one should expect some backlash. If one then feels ”attacked” then one should have avoided making such comments in the first place. I believe the saying is “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

Freedom of speech is NOT freedom from criticism.

One thing we should be able to agree on: The Rock, The Hulkster, or Randy Savage wouldn‘t have somebody else fight for them; they’d stand behind their words instead of behind somebody else doing the fighting for them. That, plus their taste in colorful clothing, seems to me to be far more “macho” behavior than that of some self-described “macho” men equating certain colors with certain genders.

Quote: “One thing we should be able to agree on: The Rock, The Hulkster, or Randy Savage wouldn‘t have somebody else fight for them; they’d stand behind their words instead of behind somebody else doing the fighting for them. That, plus their taste in colorful clothing, seems to me to be far more “macho” behavior than that of some self-described “macho” men equating certain colors with certain genders.” 👏. Agree!

Here is the crux of it though: When you say “If one wants to put forward outdated, sexist, unpopular opinions” that‘s a big leap to take from what the OP stated. Let’s break it down. The guy thinks the iMac colors are feminine. To you and others, that might be considered an ”unpopular and outdated opinion”. That’s okay...that’s what free speech is all about...the freedom to express unpopular opinions. But sexist? That’s a huge leap! That gets into a persons motive. Totally Agree that freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. Criticism is one thing. Ascribing deleterious motives to someone just because you disagree with their opinion is, I think, taking things a bit too far. The non-freedom from criticism thing works the other way too...on the accuser

 

[panjandrum]

In honor of this thread I will be wearing my absolutely fabulous purple leopard print covid face mask every possible day in public, rather than circulating it in randomly with my other ones like I usually do.

I have a great time with the reactions I get wearing this thing when I'm out (you can get one for yourself at Hallmark of all places). Doesn't matter if I'm with my wife and family (thus fairly obviously cis male) or alone (and thus an unknown quantity), I get double-takes all the time. Women generally think it's great and fun. The only people who seem to ever find it offensive are certain males. (I'll go out on a limb here and suggest these are males with itty bitty teeny tiny.... ....fragile male egos.)

F*ck anyone rigid, conservative, and ignorant enough to think colors or design have any f*cking thing to do with gender. It's all BS social constructs foisted upon the weak-minded: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/

Also, it's time to put some damn pockets in women's clothing.

 

[TiggrToo]

Quote: “One thing we should be able to agree on: The Rock, The Hulkster, or Randy Savage wouldn‘t have somebody else fight for them; they’d stand behind their words instead of behind somebody else doing the fighting for them. That, plus their taste in colorful clothing, seems to me to be far more “macho” behavior than that of some self-described “macho” men equating certain colors with certain genders.” 👏. Agree!

Here is the crux of it though: When you say “If one wants to put forward outdated, sexist, unpopular opinions” that‘s a big leap to take from what the OP stated. Let’s break it down. The guy thinks the iMac colors are feminine. To you and others, that might be considered an ”unpopular and outdated opinion”. That’s okay...that’s what free speech is all about...the freedom to express unpopular opinions. But sexist? That’s a huge leap! That gets into a persons motive. Totally Agree that freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. Criticism is one thing. Ascribing deleterious motives to someone just because you disagree with their opinion is, I think, taking things a bit too far. The non-freedom from criticism thing works the other way too...on the accuser

So much for "say your peace and walk away".

Anyway, I asked you a question about the color pink. Masculine or feminine?

 

[SuperMatt]

Quote: “One thing we should be able to agree on: The Rock, The Hulkster, or Randy Savage wouldn‘t have somebody else fight for them; they’d stand behind their words instead of behind somebody else doing the fighting for them. That, plus their taste in colorful clothing, seems to me to be far more “macho” behavior than that of some self-described “macho” men equating certain colors with certain genders.” 👏. Agree!

Here is the crux of it though: When you say “If one wants to put forward outdated, sexist, unpopular opinions” that‘s a big leap to take from what the OP stated. Let’s break it down. The guy thinks the iMac colors are feminine. To you and others, that might be considered an ”unpopular and outdated opinion”. That’s okay...that’s what free speech is all about...the freedom to express unpopular opinions. But sexist? That’s a huge leap! That gets into a persons motive. Totally Agree that freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. Criticism is one thing. Ascribing deleterious motives to someone just because you disagree with their opinion is, I think, taking things a bit too far. The non-freedom from criticism thing works the other way too...on the accuser

Agreed. But I don’t feel attacked for my opinions. Criticize them all you want. I believe in them, and even offered up evidence that supports my opinions. I’m not going to put you on ignore, don’t worry.

I don’t recall assigning any motive to the OP. I only stated that I believe the opinion itself is sexist. Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on one’s gender. There is no discrimination, but we do have prejudice. Pre-judging that these colors are for ”women specifically” is sexist against women who disllike the colors and also sexist against men who like them.

 

[rumorguy]

Robospungo:Try this. https://sp-penis-mouse-screen-saver.updatestar.com/en
But it only works on a PC--a guy's computer. 😜

 

[keyofnight]

I agree, except I think the new iMac does actually appeal to a minimalist zen dude's aesthetic.

It could, if it didn't have a chin, I guess. I feel like people need to search their feelings and ask themselves, "What is the real reason I don't like this design?"

 

[leman]

Nonsense! In the OPs first post he stated that he thought the colors were heading down a feminine lane. Fine. That’s his opinion. The only ones attributing anything negative or inferior to the use of the word feminine are you and others that attached beginning in the 2nd post.

Maybe you want to look at his subsequent posts then. Like where he blames "reduced levels of testosterone" on men liking pastel colors or ridiculing the idea of "grown men using pink and pastel green computers"...

 

[B S Magnet]

ok, because all of the iPhones and iPads fail because of their soldered on storage chips fail...

iPhones, iPads, and iPod Touches are designed with a different use-case in mind than either desktops or laptops (namely, as handheld devices with mobility and basic resistance to elements as their foremost selling points). As handheld mobility devices, they are neither designed nor used with an expectation of extended longevity, to be pushed technologically as extensively, or to be as versatile or modular as either a desktop or a laptop (both of which tend to be higher-dollar purchases with an end-user expectation to function for several years, increasingly upwards of a decade).

In other words, other components on mobility-based handhelds are expected to fail long before their storage capacity will (and whose storage typically will not be pushed as hard in that use-case). This is also why several mobility devices designed outside of Apple still feature a microSD slot for personal storage as a selling point.

 

[decafjava]

I have to thank the OP - this thread is epic. /s

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
At this point the topic has been beaten to death and the conversation is going in circles.