Anyone else think the Microsoft bashing at WWDC went too far?

[TBi]

The heat problems were not caused by the PPC architecture but by the way the G5 was built. Same thing happened with the P4. That was one thirsty chip.

With enough R&D all these problems could have been fixed and we would be sitting here with ultra fast G5 machines. However i thank god they didn't because the benefits of X86 far out weigh any issues hard core users have with intel.

I dont think the blame all lyes on IBM. PPC arch was flawed from the begining. G5 was a thermo nightmare to put up with. PPC could not get the speed that AMD and intel where both getting on x86 with out heat being coming a huge factor.people keep saying it IBM fault but I bet it was a engineering nightmare to keep increasing the speeds and not having heat issues. The huge sign that there where heat problems was the fact that apple had to go to liquid cooling. To me that was a huge sign that something was wrong with PPC. They arch was producing way to much heat to keep increasing the speeds.

It may be more effeince but it hit the max speeds a lot sooner than x86 did. Also x86 has hit the speed barrier as well. There a reason everyone is going to the multicore. They are maxing out the single core.

That all being said apple is a very hypicritcal company. They will bash one thing and then the next day be worshiping it acting like it is the greating thing ever. (ingtergrating graphic, x86 and so on).

Like some else said earily the product should sell itself. It should not require the mudslinging that apple is currently doing. That is the first sign that something is wrong. That or Steve Jobs is starting to go back to stuff that got him fired in the first place and may need to be fired again. Apple losing my respect as a company and the keynots are no long worth watching because they spend more time bashing comppetors than showing why they are good. there a reason I quite paying attention to politics. Maybe it is time I do the same to apple and do my own reasearch on them from better sourse. Apple is already one of the worse places to get infomation on there stuff.

 

[Evangelion]

Paul Thurrot's opinion on the matter. And before you just label him as "Windows-fanboy", read his article. He does have a point.

I haven't seen the keynote yet, but judging from what I have heard, they did go a bit too far. I'm a firm believer of letting your products do the talking, instead of explicitly whining about your competitors. If Vista is crap and Leopard is great, why not let the product do the talking, instead of embarrassing yourself by screaing "our competitors product is crap!"? To me, that kind of behavior smells of desperation.

 

[yellow]

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. There's some high-road for ya.

 

[DJMastaWes]

I think they were kind of harsh, however I loved every minute of it, and it was REALLY funny!

But I think this may create some argguments with M$ and Apple.

 

[brepublican]

Truth be told

All this trash talking is one-sided. MS doesnt even mention OS X, it's just an insignificant fly buzzing around; a minor annoyance.

And yes, it went too far. Don't think people don't notice. There was nothing revolutionary at the keynote. It sucked. Cover it up with a 'Hasta la vista, Vista' smokescreen if you wish. But people notice. I, for one, was not impressed.

 

[dsnort]

And yes, it went too far. Don't think people don't notice. There was nothing revolutionary at the keynote. It sucked. Cover it up with a 'Hasta la vista, Vista' smokescreen if you wish. But people notice. I, for one, was not impressed.

I must admit, the more I look at what was previewed in Leopard on monday, the more I think I can get along just fine with Tiger, and save my money for something else. Unless the "Top Secret" features are better than this, no sell.

 

[weev]

It's like a high school kid picking on an elementary school kid who's trying to dress like him; the high school kid should be mature enough to know better.

Except in this case the elementary school kid owns 95% of the school.

 

[weev]

I must admit, the more I look at what was previewed in Leopard on monday, the more I think I can get along just fine with Tiger, and save my money for something else. Unless the "Top Secret" features are better than this, no sell.

With Vista scrambling for ideas do you think Apple would lay down a blue print.

The whole mock MS bit was, in my opinion, a tactic, a way of outing Microsoft before they steal. They are now on notice.

Though many mac users might think it excessive most windows users don't know where the ideas in their new OS came from.

It's like when people just love that cover song without ever having heard the original version.

 

[maxrobertson]

I don't think they went too far at that point, but I hope they don't keep it up. It was funny then, but any more would start to look tasteless and lame.