Phones Anyone jumping ship to a Galaxy Nexus???

[lordofthereef]

it just always seems like everyone thinks the iphone was the first phone like this.

Not everyone. Just the people that think Apple is the be all end all of tech. They are the same people that think they invented the mp3 player, the mouse, and a slew of other things. Their next invention sounds like it's going to be the TV. I cannot wait for that. It's going to be so awesome. Watching movies at home without having to go to the cinema. Sign me up!

 

[silver8ack]

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Haha. Well I'm not sure why you still have an iPad with its antiquated OS.

 

[Rampant.A.I.]

Oh well a marketing source is always believable. Much more so than the bleeding edge users out there.

Clearly, sir; you are truly a bleeding edge technology user. The fact that you've purchased a new Smart Phone makes it obviously so.

Walking down to your local store and buying a box off the shelf is not using "bleeding edge" technology.

 

[lordofthereef]

Walking down to your local store and buying a box off the shelf is not using "bleeding edge" technology.

What would qualify as bleeding edge, in your book? Something not yet released to the public? I am sincerely curious.
Here is the wiki definition:
Bleeding edge technology is a category of technologies incorporating those so new that they could have a high risk of being unreliable and lead adopters to incur greater expense in order to make use of them.[1][2] The term bleeding edge is formed as an allusion to "leading edge" and its synonym cutting edge, but tends to imply even greater advancement, albeit at a greater risk of "metaphorically cutting yourself" because of the unreliability of the software.[3]

 

[ChaoticFury]

This is the perfect thread for me. I recently left my carrier where I had an iPhone 4 and was interested in the Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the GSM version, here in Canada, and gave it a shot. Here is what I found.

Galaxy Nexus:

I found the screen, especially at low brightness to have almost a film grain effect, especially when scrolling slowing in the web browser. The other problem with AMOLED in my opinion is that the colours are less realistic. I found the screen to almost have a blueish hue the entire time, throwing off the whites unless the brightness was turned up significantly.

The battery life is not perfect, leaving the screen at 25% brightness and taking it through a day, by the time I got home around 6 or 7 pm I had 30-40%. Not terrible for using it during the day. It mostly consisted of light web browsing, texting, and watching videos on the train. Had I used it heavily I doubt it would have given me a few days but I never tested that.

To be honest, the weight was a little lighter than I prefer. I am unsure if this was because I was use to the weight of the iPhone 4 or if it was really just to light. I felt a lot that I was going to drop it. I watch videos all the time going to and from work and I felt the device was difficult to hold in the landscape position without shifting your fingers. This causes a problem because the power button is on the side. It's the thing I hate most. I hold my device on the side a lot and all I ever do is hit that while I am watching a movie.

The speaker, well nothing good can be said here. That thing is as quiet as it gets. I had to use headphones almost all of the time to hear anything. It's a tiny speaker and if you plan to watch anything on it without headphones that speaker will not be suffice for anything. Even during general speakerphone calls I could barely hear the person on the other end. It's awful, no way around it.

Speaking about size and the back cover, the size is at first big. Over time you will get use to it and it will be easier to use. Even when I began to like the size, I still could not use one hand to reach the top without feeling like I was going to drop it onto the sidewalk. The back cover does have a nice texture though, but I hate how it peels off. It feels cheap and looks even cheaper. Doesn't at all make you feel like your holding a $700 phone.

The camera is abysmal. Every shot was grainy and didn't look very good. It was just awful. The software bundled with it for instant shots and editing is fantastic and beats IOS by far. I wish they would bring it over to the iPhone.

The app store is pretty good. Android has a large variety of apps, but IMO they are sub par. If you have never experienced the IOS App store I can see how this would look good but coming the other way it was nothing but disappointment. Some of the apps are the same on both marketplaces but androids almost always are ad supported and do not include all of the features that IOS does. Take for example fruit ninja. IOS has had a ton of updates for this game with new blades and the addition of extra levels and so on. Fruit Ninja on android is basically how it looked when it originally came out. Angry birds has Ads with no option to buy an non ad version. That is what really bothered me the most. I don't mind apps being available but at least have a version where I can pay to have a clean game. On the plus side google makes it very easy to see what anything costs and one click payment is a breeze.

ICS software is greatly improved from previous versions of android. It is a light year ahead of gingerbread and is going to be great when Google puts more work into it. My biggest problem with it is that while it looks much nicer it feels half finished. Like it's just lacking. It's really hard to put into words why it feels that way but take it home for a week and you can see. I had a few problems with applications crashing, including the internet browser multiple times and a few apps. I can't say this has never happened on my iPhone so it happens to everybody. It is a vast improvement and everyone should try it.

After about a week I very much missed the simplicity of IOS and left android and purchased a 4S instead. There is just something about IOS that without words makes it better than Android IMO. I think that the main selling point of Android is that you can customize it, and after I set it up the first day to the way I wanted I never changed it for the next six days and never felt the need to. I used the app drawer for getting to my apps, and my home screen just had a weather widget and my calendar. I think subconsciously I was looking for that IOS app interface and that is why I used the app drawer. I find things in IOS easier to get to, in some areas and harder in others. As far as the Galaxy line, I think whatever Google puts out next could really be something but they need to control the overflow of Android devices.

I have another opinion about Android and the "war" with IOS. Samsung has made the last two iterations of the Nexus line. I don't think they have put their full hearts into it. I think they put out a nice phone but reserve the best for their own lines of phones, Galaxy S lines. I think this is a major stumbling point for Google because their heart isn't really into it. Apple on the other hand has Samsung make specific parts and then makes sure what they put out is perfect in their eyes. I think Samsung really wants to beat IOS but wants to do so with their own line of products and not something that people associate with Google more so than Samsung. Most people say the Google Nexus or Galaxy Nexus but rarely is it referred to as Samsung Galaxy Nexus in common practice. Just my opinion but just wanted to see if anyone else agreed.

If you want to go Android definitely stay with the Nexus line but as far as 4S vs Nexus I would throw it to the 4S. I will stick with mine for the future and into whatever Apple brings out next.

P.S- Sorry for the wall of text.

 

[lilo777]

This is the perfect thread for me. I recently left my carrier where I had an iPhone 4 and was interested in the Galaxy Nexus. I purchased the GSM version, here in Canada, and gave it a shot. Here is what I found.

Galaxy Nexus:

I found the screen, especially at low brightness to have almost a film grain effect, especially when scrolling slowing in the web browser. The other problem with AMOLED in my opinion is that the colours are less realistic. I found the screen to almost have a blueish hue the entire time, throwing off the whites unless the brightness was turned up significantly.

The battery life is not perfect, leaving the screen at 25% brightness and taking it through a day, by the time I got home around 6 or 7 pm I had 30-40%. Not terrible for using it during the day. It mostly consisted of light web browsing, texting, and watching videos on the train. Had I used it heavily I doubt it would have given me a few days but I never tested that.

To be honest, the weight was a little lighter than I prefer. I am unsure if this was because I was use to the weight of the iPhone 4 or if it was really just to light. I felt a lot that I was going to drop it. I watch videos all the time going to and from work and I felt the device was difficult to hold in the landscape position without shifting your fingers. This causes a problem because the power button is on the side. It's the thing I hate most. I hold my device on the side a lot and all I ever do is hit that while I am watching a movie.

The speaker, well nothing good can be said here. That thing is as quiet as it gets. I had to use headphones almost all of the time to hear anything. It's a tiny speaker and if you plan to watch anything on it without headphones that speaker will not be suffice for anything. Even during general speakerphone calls I could barely hear the person on the other end. It's awful, no way around it.

Speaking about size and the back cover, the size is at first big. Over time you will get use to it and it will be easier to use. Even when I began to like the size, I still could not use one hand to reach the top without feeling like I was going to drop it onto the sidewalk. The back cover does have a nice texture though, but I hate how it peels off. It feels cheap and looks even cheaper. Doesn't at all make you feel like your holding a $700 phone.

The camera is abysmal. Every shot was grainy and didn't look very good. It was just awful. The software bundled with it for instant shots and editing is fantastic and beats IOS by far. I wish they would bring it over to the iPhone.

The app store is pretty good. Android has a large variety of apps, but IMO they are sub par. If you have never experienced the IOS App store I can see how this would look good but coming the other way it was nothing but disappointment. Some of the apps are the same on both marketplaces but androids almost always are ad supported and do not include all of the features that IOS does. Take for example fruit ninja. IOS has had a ton of updates for this game with new blades and the addition of extra levels and so on. Fruit Ninja on android is basically how it looked when it originally came out. Angry birds has Ads with no option to buy an non ad version. That is what really bothered me the most. I don't mind apps being available but at least have a version where I can pay to have a clean game. On the plus side google makes it very easy to see what anything costs and one click payment is a breeze.

ICS software is greatly improved from previous versions of android. It is a light year ahead of gingerbread and is going to be great when Google puts more work into it. My biggest problem with it is that while it looks much nicer it feels half finished. Like it's just lacking. It's really hard to put into words why it feels that way but take it home for a week and you can see. I had a few problems with applications crashing, including the internet browser multiple times and a few apps. I can't say this has never happened on my iPhone so it happens to everybody. It is a vast improvement and everyone should try it.

After about a week I very much missed the simplicity of IOS and left android and purchased a 4S instead. There is just something about IOS that without words makes it better than Android IMO. I think that the main selling point of Android is that you can customize it, and after I set it up the first day to the way I wanted I never changed it for the next six days and never felt the need to. I used the app drawer for getting to my apps, and my home screen just had a weather widget and my calendar. I think subconsciously I was looking for that IOS app interface and that is why I used the app drawer. I find things in IOS easier to get to, in some areas and harder in others. As far as the Galaxy line, I think whatever Google puts out next could really be something but they need to control the overflow of Android devices.

I have another opinion about Android and the "war" with IOS. Samsung has made the last two iterations of the Nexus line. I don't think they have put their full hearts into it. I think they put out a nice phone but reserve the best for their own lines of phones, Galaxy S lines. I think this is a major stumbling point for Google because their heart isn't really into it. Apple on the other hand has Samsung make specific parts and then makes sure what they put out is perfect in their eyes. I think Samsung really wants to beat IOS but wants to do so with their own line of products and not something that people associate with Google more so than Samsung. Most people say the Google Nexus or Galaxy Nexus but rarely is it referred to as Samsung Galaxy Nexus in common practice. Just my opinion but just wanted to see if anyone else agreed.

If you want to go Android definitely stay with the Nexus line but as far as 4S vs Nexus I would throw it to the 4S. I will stick with mine for the future and into whatever Apple brings out next.

P.S- Sorry for the wall of text.

As you admitted, your opinion of SGN was heavily influenced by your prior experiences (with iPhone). That's expected. We all function this way. For example, for me after getting used to Samsung Galaxy SII phone iPhone feels heavy as a brick. I do not think that Samsung phones are too light. They are light but not that light. It'd not like they weigh like a match box or something.

Also, after using Samsung phones (SGS1, SGS2 and SGN), the shape of iPhone feels just atrocious. It's totally anti-ergonomic - sharp edges everywhere. It's good only in a sense that because of sharp edges you are constantly aware of the position of the phone in the hand.

Having realistic colors on the phone is hardly a benefit. What for? For playing Angry Birds? Most of the time phone screen displays pictures with synthetics colors. Should we care about natural skin tones on the phone? What for? The screens are just too small for viewing the pictures. Yeah, one can show a picture to a friend once in a while but that's usually because there is something funny on the pic. OLED panel contrast (being several orders of magnitude better than that of LCD) has much more significant impact on the picture than natural colors.

And as far as "web browsing, texting, and watching videos on the train" is concerned, screen size (and resolution) is the single most important feature and SGN excels in this department.

 

[ChaoticFury]

As you admitted, your opinion of SGN was heavily influenced by your prior experiences (with iPhone). That's expected. We all function this way. For example, for me after getting used to Samsung Galaxy SII phone iPhone feels heavy as a brick. I do not think that Samsung phones are too light. They are light but not that light. It'd not like they weigh like a match box or something.

Also, after using Samsung phones (SGS1, SGS2 and SGN), the shape of iPhone feels just atrocious. It's totally anti-ergonomic - sharp edges everywhere. It's good only in a sense that because of sharp edges you are constantly aware of the position of the phone in the hand.

Having realistic colors on the phone is hardly a benefit. What for? For playing Angry Birds? Most of the time phone screen displays pictures with synthetics colors. Should we care about natural skin tones on the phone? What for? The screens are just too small for viewing the pictures. Yeah, one can show a picture to a friend once in a while but that's usually because there is something funny on the pic. OLED panel contrast (being several orders of magnitude better than that of LCD) has much more significant impact on the picture than natural colors.

And as far as "web browsing, texting, and watching videos on the train" is concerned, screen size (and resolution) is the single most important feature and SGN excels in this department.

Your absolutely right, my opinion of the G Nexus was influenced heavily by the Apple products I have used in the past. I actually had not owned that many Apple products prior to this, it was an HTC Desire that stopped being supported just a few months after I had bought it. That was a huge turn off to me and I remedied it by buying a phone I knew Google would support.

As far as the weight goes, it's really a person preference thing. I have bigger hands and I prefer things with a bit more weight to them. It's just a personal preference thing. My major concern with the Nexus was that I was going to drop it.

As far as the shape goes, I can't say I disagree. I was never in love with the 4 or 4S shape. I much preferred the 3GS shape with that curved design and curved edges. It's the same with the macbook pros. I hate how the edges are just cut aluminium, I have hurt my writs on numerous occasions like this.

The colours is going to be from person to person. I prefer realistic colours for a few reasons. They look the way they were intended to look and it's a bit easier on my eyes. For instance I just came back from Japan and my girlfriend took all of our photos and enhanced them in Photoshop and put them up for people. Then everyone freaked out and thought how amazing Japan looked. Were the colours really that bright or vibrant? Not really but people like that enhanced look. I prefer the ways my eyes normally see colours. I am just not a huge fan of OLED and some people are. It's an opinion thing.

The Nexus definitely has a great size screen, it's a bit big for me but if the iPhone was maybe 4 or 4.2 I would be pretty happy.

It's not that the Nexus doesn't excel, it just doesn't excel enough for me to really make it my daily driver. I just wanted to throw my opinion in so people could see exactly why I came back to the iPhone to help them in their decision.

I noticed you missed a few other of my points so I will assume you agreed with them.

 

[PacificBeach]

30 to 45 Mbps on the Nexus on a regular basis nuff said.
Apple get you sheet and catch Lol.

*now i am awaiting all the apple fanboys that will justify non 4G on the iphone and say they really don't need such fast speeds* Lol

 

[ChaoticFury]

30 to 45 Mbps on the Nexus on a regular basis nuff said.
Apple get you sheet and catch Lol.

*now i am awaiting all thr fanboys that will justify non 4G on the iphone and say they really don't need such fast speeds* Lol

Wouldn't it depend on what you use your phone for?

 

[PacificBeach]

Wouldn't it depend on what you use your phone for?

no! speed is speed! faster = better

 

[ChaoticFury]

no! speed is speed! faster = better

Couldn't the argument be made that battery life is better than speed? We know that LTE does not go well with battery life unless you pack a massive battery in there. This year we should see both in one package though.

 

[Dwalls90]

I WAS seriously considering this phone, until I read that the battery life was as piss poor as the other LTE phones wavering around maybe 4 hours tops of usage.

 

[PacificBeach]

Couldn't the argument be made that battery life is better than speed? We know that LTE does not go well with battery life unless you pack a massive battery in there. This year we should see both in one package though.

No! Because the extended battery is only 24 dollars and give you more battery life than what u get on the iphone. So nice try!

 

[ChaoticFury]

No! Because the extended battery is only 24 dollars and give you more battery life than what u get on the iphone. So nice try!

Why do I need to pay more to get the phone to function the way it should to begin with? Why not get an efficient Qualcomm chipset that reduces that power consumption that LTE has on phones and not have to make customers shell out more money, or put the extended battery in there to begin with. I get android is all about choices but how about the choice to have my phone last all day and be efficient when I take it out of the box.

 

[Tarzanman]

The irony of that statement is despite all this talk about Android providing more choices, there's an inconspicuous lack of such choice for high end phone with a midsize screen. Either you have to buy a large phone with a 4.3"+ screen or buy some shoddy mid range or low end phones.

Personally I'd like to have something "mid size" like the iPhone with a high density display as well as the best fit&finish possible in hardware. There no such product offered by any carrier near me.

I don't see any irony.
1. The iPhone's 3.5" screen is not mid-size. It is small unless you are comparing it to dumb-phones or keyboard-laden portrait phones

2. Only the iphone 4 and 4S have that small screen size and resolution. This isn't a limitation caused Android's many hardware manufacturers, this is Apple deliberately getting exclusivity from the iphone 4 screen manufacturers.

All of Android's screen resolutions are currently available on screens of more than one size (except for the 720p of the Galaxy Nexus). 4.3" is not 4.65" and 4.65" is not 5". Simply waving your hand and saying that anything above 4" is 'big' and therefore not a different choice is being disingenuous.

3. You should clarify what you mean by fit and finish. No other phone manufacturer so far has made the mistake of sandwiching the device between two pieces of glass.

There are android phones with & without unibody construction and/or irreplaceable batteries, keyboards, different processors, expandable memory and even OS variant.

Complaining that you can't buy an Android phone that looks and feels like an iPhone 4/4S and chalking it up to 'lack-of-choice' is a fairly ridiculous statement to make.

"Hey, I can't find a burger away from McDonald's that tastes like a big Mac! Hardees, Wendy's, Burger King, Carl Jr, Sonic and Fuddruckers don't offer me enough choices!"

....see how silly that is?

 

[lordofthereef]

Why do I need to pay more to get the phone to function the way it should to begin with?

He is saying that for only $25 you get longer than the competitor battery life. If you don't want longer than the competitor, you can certainly stick with the way it comes. A buddy of mine has this phone and uses it heavily for work, and also for pleasure. He is able to get through a day of use no problem, and he does get 4G data at his work. We all know that mileage varies, even with the iPhone. The statements I see here that these phones get 4 hours AT BEST are pretty gross overstatements, IMO.

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30 to 45 Mbps on the Nexus on a regular basis nuff said.
Apple get you sheet and catch Lol.

*now i am awaiting all the apple fanboys that will justify non 4G on the iphone and say they really don't need such fast speeds* Lol

I'll bite. I certainly don't need those speeds. They would be nice, but 3G is more than adequate. I use both platforms (but no windows phone yet for whatever reason) and 4G has never been on my radar as must have functionality. Will I toss a 4G phone aside BECAUSE it's 4G? Certainly not. But I am also not going to toss a phone aside that DOESN'T have 4G simply for that fact alone. I think it's inevitable that high end smartphones are essentially all going to have LTE radios in them here within a year or so.

 

[ChaoticFury]

"He is saying that for only $25 you get longer than the competitor battery life. If you don't want longer than the competitor, you can certainly stick with the way it comes. A buddy of mine has this phone and uses it heavily for work, and also for pleasure. He is able to get through a day of use no problem, and he does get 4G data at his work. We all know that mileage varies, even with the iPhone. The statements I see here that these phones get 4 hours AT BEST are pretty gross overstatements, IMO."

I get what he means but I guess where I am coming from is that sometimes tech moves to fast. Speeds, spec upgrades etc. I hate it when companies use something as a selling point, and then it's either half there or not ready for daily use. Apple does it, Google does it, everyone does it. When they did testing if nobody could get through a day with 4G data usage they should have waited until it was ready.

Mileage absolutely does vary with the iPhone. I have had days where it just runs dry, my only qualm with the galaxy nexus was that it drained significantly faster than my IOS device. It certainly gets over 4 hours with moderate use, BUT if you keep the screen on continuously over that four hours along with surfing the web or otherwise the G Nexus will run it's battery out after that amount of time. I saw it and even when you look at the battery use for screen time I got roughly an on time of 3 to 4.5 hours of screen time, depending on brightness.

The real thing here is if the phone works for you use it, if it doesn't don't. Everyone has an opinion and one phone will not make everyone happy.

 

[iceterminal]

Well you can jump as far as you possiblyl can, but since Google is dropping developer support for all CDMA devices (aka Galaxy Nexus) I'm sure the future will be changing for Verizon and Android devices.

 

[sk1wbw]

Not everyone. Just the people that think Apple is the be all end all of tech. They are the same people that think they invented the mp3 player, the mouse, and a slew of other things. Their next invention sounds like it's going to be the TV. I cannot wait for that. It's going to be so awesome. Watching movies at home without having to go to the cinema. Sign me up!

Only people younger than 10 believe this. Not every Apple user believes this. Some of us are old to remember computers before Apple and Dell and Microsoft.

Some of used Wangs and Osbourne and Kaypro. So not every Apple user believes that Apple invented everything.

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And back on subject, the only phone that I've ever seen today that would even stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting me from the iPhone would be the Galaxy Note. And I'd have to be paid to use it, but that does look a nice ass phone.

 

[lordofthereef]

Only people younger than 10 believe this. Not every Apple user believes this. Some of us are old to remember computers before Apple and Dell and Microsoft.

Some of used Wangs and Osbourne and Kaypro. So not every Apple user believes that Apple invented everything.

Either you misread my post, or I am simply unsure what you are going on about. I never claimed every Apple user thought this.

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Well you can jump as far as you possiblyl can, but since Google is dropping developer support for all CDMA devices (aka Galaxy Nexus) I'm sure the future will be changing for Verizon and Android devices.

You do realize that the GNex was actually out on GSM networks in Europe before Verizon got the CDMA version, right? VZW simply has exclusivity rights on the GNex, for a short time. Also, Verizon is going LTE, which is very much a GSM technology. If they can get the coverage they want in the time frame they are speaking they don't have much to worry about. Also, this could just be some political BS with Google trying to put pressure where they feel it's needed.

 

[ChazUK]

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Well you can jump as far as you possiblyl can, but since Google is dropping developer support for all CDMA devices (aka Galaxy Nexus) I'm sure the future will be changing for Verizon and Android devices.

That ended up being a mistake caused by Droid-Life.

http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/02/03/fear-not-google-will-still-support-the-verizon-galaxy-nexus/

Earlier this afternoon Droid-Life noticed something strange: the Android developer devices page had been modified to remove the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, leading the site to question whether Google may have removed support for the device because of its spat with Verizon over Google Wallet. Which would stand to infuriate a lot of new Galaxy Nexus users (including myself), who are looking forward to receiving device updates directly from Google and not having to wait for Verizon to get around to pushing their own releases.

Thankfully, we’ve confirmed this isn’t the case: Google says it will indeed be updating the Verizon Galaxy Nexus in the future

The changes to the development pages were made due to issues with custom CDMA apk binaries and the AOSP.

Google are still supporting the thing thankfully! Lots of baseless panic thanks yo the assumptions from Droid-Life.

 

[Vegastouch]

You and 5 other ppl. Don't act like Apple didn't revolutionize the consumer market for smartphones. They did. I guess I should have said 'revolutionize', but you get my stinking point.

The iPhone also isnt the first touchscreen either so though they made it more popular, revolutionized, whatever you want to call it, they didnt invent anything. Complete fragmentation? Dont think so, ICS fixed a lot of that.
It doesnt matter to me which one you like but your giving all the props to Apple for inventing all of this when they didnt and no props to Android for passing Apple up after Apple had a two year headstart. Id say Apple made it more popular because of the Apps and still at first resisted outsiders making them til Steve realized he could make a ton of money from them.

I like both platforms and both devices and have a PC and a MacBook and had an iPhone for two years but prefer Android for all it does and what i can do beyond stock when it is rooted which is amazing when i have to jailbreak the iPhone and still not able to do what i can with Android stock.

I dont care who has more Apps because Android has 500,000 of them now and i only use about 100 and still dont even know about many good ones yet.

 

[sk1wbw]

Either you misread my post, or I am simply unsure what you are going on about. I never claimed every Apple user thought this.

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I know what you were talking about. I'm just claryfing for others.

 

[lordofthereef]

The iPhone also isnt the first touchscreen either so though they made it more popular, revolutionized, whatever you want to call it, they didnt invent anything. Complete fragmentation? Dont think so, ICS fixed a lot of that.
It doesnt matter to me which one you like but your giving all the props to Apple for inventing all of this when they didnt and no props to Android for passing Apple up after Apple had a two year headstart. Id say Apple made it more popular because of the Apps and still at first resisted outsiders making them til Steve realized he could make a ton of money from them.

I like both platforms and both devices and have a PC and a MacBook and had an iPhone for two years but prefer Android for all it does and what i can do beyond stock when it is rooted which is amazing when i have to jailbreak the iPhone and still not able to do what i can with Android stock.

I dont care who has more Apps because Android has 500,000 of them now and i only use about 100 and still dont even know about many good ones yet.

Here is what you have to understand. To the Apple die-hard, Apple revolutionizes, and everyone else steals. We are slowly beginning to see that things go both ways, at least in the eyes of the law.

 

[Vegastouch]

I have a Vibrant. I am slightly tempted to get a newer phone (maybe the Galaxy Nexus), but when it comes down to it what am I buying?

I already have unlimited data (after 5GB they restrict it to EDGE)
I already have tethering (use it at work every day)
I already have spare batteries and battery chargers
I can already view avi, mkv with subtitles on my phone

What would I be gaining? these:
1. A better functioning GPS
2. A better camera
3. A front facing camera
4. A nicer/bigger screen

The question is, do I want to pay ~$500-$600 for these things?

I too still have the Vibrant and i am going to wait for the Galaxy S3 to come out before i upgrade. The GN is great but the no microcard slot is a deal breaker for me. Considered it but i have all my music on my microcard and though i could just use Google music, id rather play it from my card and not use data.

My Vibrant is running ICS so im still good for a while waiting for GS3 to come out.