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fertilized-egg

macrumors 68020
Dec 18, 2009
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Maybe you should open the door to that bubble you live in and take a peek at the real world.

I don't think that's "the real world." You're basically asking to peek at your own bubble with your own bias. For example, as a current Android user I also found the button arrangement, along with many other UI elements, of Ice Cream Sandwich rather confusing and not very intuitive. Yet you're trying to pass that off as someone's fiction.

It's not that Apple users aren't biased, it's that Android users here (who spend so much time in an Apple-centric forum arguing how wonderful Android is) far too often claim that their opinions are completely objective and non-biased, when in fact they are just as biased, if not more so.
 

Shockwave78

macrumors 65816
Jul 10, 2010
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I had iphones since day 1 and hated Android since it came out, with ICS though thats all changed. They have come a long way and no one will be able to doubt that now.

Just like anything else it will get old after awhile, iOS hasn't changed graphically at all in 4yrs
 

jackrv

macrumors 6502
Jul 14, 2011
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I did, and I love it. I am still a Mac as far as my desktops and I doubt that will change anytime soon. However, the phone arena has a lot of great competition right now. iPhone just waited too long for some spec upgrades, and I've had the 3GS for 2 years. My work bought us our choice of Verizon phones, and my coworker and I went with the Nexus.
 

PNutts

macrumors 601
Jul 24, 2008
4,874
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Pacific Northwest, US
Which devices won't see ICS for six months? What is basis for the %65 number you mention? Sources?

I don't see a 65% number on this chart that shows phones and their OS versions: Android fragmentation chart shows most phones abandoned. Other than this chart I'm not familiar with this site so I don't know if they're biased either way.

From the article:
"Looking at at models released 2010 and earlier, Michael DeGusta showed that most were abandoned by their makers quickly. Of the group of 18, 15 don't run Android 2.3, 12 were current for weeks at best, and seven ran obsolete versions even when they launched.

It's considered likely that "at least" 16, though more likely all of them, will go without Android 4.0. Google just recently ruled out the Nexus One."

The lack of consistent home, back, search buttons on the Nexus is horrible.
Er, that's the iPhone your talking about, not the Nexus.

Because my iPhone has a physical home button I find it's pretty consistent. :p
 

Stealthipad

macrumors 68040
Apr 30, 2010
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Haha, not really, cuz that's all Android fanboys talk about.

What is really sad is you do not even need to get the Nexus to have more features than the 4S, the SG2 beats it with ease. I sit here and move complicated satellite maps on but my wifes 4S and my SG2 and the poor little 4S can not even keep up with scrolling the map like the SG2. And the screen on the 4S is so tiny you would think it would be easy.
 

lique831

macrumors regular
Dec 22, 2011
115
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I've spent the past couple of years with Apple hardware at home (Macbook Pro, now a Macbook Air and an iPad) and an Android phone. I used to really enjoy customizing my phone, rooting, and installing a million different ROMs. But after a while, I really just wanted my phone to be stable and just work. It seemed like I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get my phones "just right". I used to put down the iPhone, but after switching, it's a much better experience than what I had with Android.

As far as the Galaxy Nexus...no, I won't be switching. My CFO bought one and I thought the screen was gorgeous, but it was even bigger than my old Evo 3D and that was pretty big. Unfortunately, the lightness of it made it feel really cheap too. I am more interested in Ice Cream sandwich and may pick up a tablet with ICS in the future, but I think I'm done with the Android phone platform.
 

daihard

macrumors 6502a
Feb 19, 2008
973
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Seattle, WA
I've spent the past couple of years with Apple hardware at home (Macbook Pro, now a Macbook Air and an iPad) and an Android phone. I used to really enjoy customizing my phone, rooting, and installing a million different ROMs. But after a while, I really just wanted my phone to be stable and just work. It seemed like I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get my phones "just right". I used to put down the iPhone, but after switching, it's a much better experience than what I had with Android.

That's a good point, though a lot of that is IMO personal preferences. I bought an iPhone back in 2008 because that was the only smartphone that did what I wanted a smartphone to do back then. It was an easy decision. On the other hand, I love customizing things to my liking. I use Linux/KDE mainly because of its customizability. Now that Android has caught up, I am seriously considering switching to it for the same reason.
 

smallnshort247

macrumors 6502a
Oct 23, 2010
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I recently just switched from my blackberry curve to the iPhone 4s and I love it. I will say that the OS feels a tad bit stale at times since I'm so used to it, yet infant deny that it's very stable and quick. The GN looks like a cool phone. I'd probably say that
If I were to switch the android, that would be the phone that I'd get. I just hate how it seems as if a new android phOne comes out every two weeks. But yeah, I think both platforms are good for what they are. I'm an android noob and I'd like to know how to use the OS just for the heck of it. Hopefully apple takes a few things from their OS like the cool backgrounds.

I must say that windows phone 7 isnt that bad either, I'm just not that interested in it compared to other operating systems on phones.
 

gniss39

macrumors regular
Mar 11, 2007
107
1
Eugene, OR
I just recently got a 4S in November but just bought a Verizon Nexus full retail to play with until Jan 15. If I like it more than the 4S (first iPhone), it will stay and the iPhone will go on eBay.
I feel the Nexus will only get better especially for those who root and use custom ROMs, I loved doing that on my OG droid and kind of miss it. We will see what I decide!
 

toondw

macrumors 6502
Jun 28, 2009
335
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Northumberland, UK
im going to use both for a couple of weeks and decide then. I have been a iphone user since the start but an getting a bit tired of the layout so am interested in ICS.

I will spend a day with iphone then a day with nexus for a whole 2 weeks swapping every day then make my decision.

:D :confused:

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These are just 'opinions' from an typical Apple fanboy. I take it with a grain of salt. Google's Galaxy Nexus is so much better than iPhone 4s. Here's Why...

1) Android has the ability to customize your user-experience.
2) Apple's iPhone is ridiculously expensive.
3) Android let's you choose your hardware and install custom roms.
4) Angry Birds is free.

I rest my case.

you had me at angry birds is free! ;) (shame you did'nt put it first this would have worked better)
 

jsf8x

macrumors 6502
Feb 28, 2010
424
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I had the original first generation and lived through entire Android saga the last 3 years before my plan ran out. I just got an iPhone 4S and fulfilling my dreams ever since the iPhone 4 came out. The Galaxy Nexus is a fascinating phone but I'm nearly sure it will succumb to the same issues that plague many Android phones with fragmentation being chief among them.
 

iHateMacs

macrumors 6502a
Aug 13, 2008
654
24
Coventry, UK
Anyone jumping ship to a Galaxy Nexus???. I did and love it. My only winge is the ringer volume but "Volume +" fixed that, so all in all I am very happy with the switch................what about the rest of you??

No because I have used and loved the iPhone from day one and everyone I know and care about also uses iPhone.

It would be silly for me to change to something else.
 

Eager Beaver

macrumors 6502a
Sep 28, 2011
599
0
Chicago, IL
I've spent the past couple of years with Apple hardware at home (Macbook Pro, now a Macbook Air and an iPad) and an Android phone.


Coulple of years?
In particular, WHICH android phone? :confused:
While the iphone4/4s has been basically the same exact phone for 3 years, the new android and windows phones have made HUGE leaps during that time period -
 

Gix1k

macrumors 68040
Jun 16, 2008
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Nope..keeping the 4S until a new iPhone appears. Battery life on those phones are horrible..plus nowhere near as fluid.
 

jjamesv

macrumors regular
Aug 17, 2007
119
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I got a Nexus on launch day. I had the original iPhone and I've spent plenty of time with other iOS devices since then. I've previously owned an original Droid and an Incredible.

1)The Nexus screen is vibrant but in looking at 4 different displays they all seemed to have some color aberrations in one place or another. For example, mine has a greenish tint in the upper right corner and slight reddish tint along the left edge. It's very minor, but it's there, and it's there in different places on all the Nexii I looked at. The 4s screen is much more consistent.

The screen is a fail. Most reviews were probably not done with a careful eye to detail, and if you take a cursory look at the display it is a "wow factor". Dig a little deeper and it's sub-par.

At lower brightness the Nexus screen is grainy. Moreover, it it shows a "linen" or "crosshatch" pattern on solid fields of color.

2)Battery life doesn't seem to be any worse that my old Incredible, but that wasn't a phone well known for battery life either.

3)The phone heats up on long calls. It also heats up considerably when charging. Not sure what the issue is here but I don't think I'm alone in having it.

4)The Nexus has a speedier browser than in previous iterations of Android. From a functionality perspective, I'd say it's better than the browser in iOS5. It's not as snappy as the iOS browser and it doesn't render pages consistently. Once the kinks are worked out it'll be better.

5)The camera, whether still or video, is not on par with the 4s. That's a real disappointment given the size and status of the phone. There oughta be room for a DSLR in there somewhere!

My takeaway would be that if you go Android, you have to choose this phone. It's the only one that will be consistently updated. Even ROMing the phone means you have to wait for a developer to adapt those updates. Also, even the most stable ROMs (CM 7, etc.) are not as stable as stock.

To answer the OP's question, if you're not OCD about your display and you don't need the best camera (in a smartphone) the Nexus is really cool. If you use Google apps, especially Google Voice, Nexus can't be beat. I'm left with the question, Why, if you're making a “superphone” don't you make it hands down, across the board, better than anything else? Cost? If a better camera and better fit and finish meant $25 more, people would have paid it. I would have.

I get the impression that this phone/OS combo is a beta, like so many other Google projects. Owners of the Galaxy Nexus were let in on a sort of developer preview as opposed to a release. I've had my share of reboots and crashes. A lot of that may just be apps that will install but haven't been optimized for ICS. Having said that, over the coming months I would imagine it's going to get a whole lot better, and all things considered, it's pretty damn good now.

The ability to customize aspects of the system and access the file system makes the Android device FEEL more like a computer and less like an appliance. That customization doesn't necessarily bring more capability, but in this rivalry, for Android, it often does.
 

fertilized-egg

macrumors 68020
Dec 18, 2009
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While the iphone4/4s has been basically the same exact phone for 3 years, the new android and windows phones have made HUGE leaps during that time period -

That's very easily disputed. In those three years, Apple completely changed the design, including the material used to build the phone, gave the phone a new dual core processor, doubled the linear resolution, changed the display tech from TN to IPS, switched to the fastest GPU in the industry, create a completely new cloud service, and released a host of APIs and OS changes too numerous to mention?

What you're trying to say is that the style of phone UI, along with the display size, haven't changed. That's something very different than "basically the same phone."
 

Eager Beaver

macrumors 6502a
Sep 28, 2011
599
0
Chicago, IL
That's something very different than "basically the same phone."


It IS basically the same phone -
I guess you haven't seen the videos of side by side comparisons?


Look at the non-iphones 3 years ago when the 4s came out -
Look at the non-iphones now, they are completely different while the 4 is basically still the same phone -

3 years ago I woulda never considered a non-iphone, but things have changed dramatically for non iphone, (while for the 4s ........ :rolleyes:)
 

nraudigy2

macrumors member
Oct 17, 2011
62
1
I won't jump back to android anytime soon until Google forces same hardware on manufacturers. Android suffers the same fragmentation from Windows Mobile and Symbian. I guess Microsoft learned their lesson and created WP7. Apps will still crashes on Android more frequently than iOS and WP7 because of fragmentation. Only platform I can see switching to is WP7. You can read more about fragmentation of Android here.

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/93760-how-android-fragmentation-actually-affects-users
 
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DeathChill

macrumors 68000
Jul 15, 2005
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What is really sad is you do not even need to get the Nexus to have more features than the 4S, the SG2 beats it with ease. I sit here and move complicated satellite maps on but my wifes 4S and my SG2 and the poor little 4S can not even keep up with scrolling the map like the SG2. And the screen on the 4S is so tiny you would think it would be easy.

That seems strange as the 4S is much faster in the GPU department and the CPU's are equivalent. As well, Android is known to stutter and lag in regards to scrolling due to design choices used by the OS. But by all means, continue to spout crap.
 
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