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MatthewStorm

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Oct 19, 2003
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Plus with the 4s you will be able to use iOS 6.0 and iOS 7.0.

With any android handset now you have a 65% chance of never seeing an authorized upgrade. Besides the inferior os the upgrade path is insane. Some devices won't see ICS until six months after it is released. I don't want to play in that world. I have a iPhone, a 3G and a 4. They are all still in use and the older ones got multiple os upgrades on time making them much more useful over time.

When google starts feeding motorola new updates right away the other manufacturers will jump ship. Apples integration is a massive advantage as they can get upgrades out much faster than google and their partners

You really made me laugh as you're completely clueless about which you speak. Which devices won't see ICS for six months? What is basis for the %65 number you mention? Sources? Seriously dude, get some facts before sitting at the adult table.


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MatthewStorm

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Oct 19, 2003
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ICS to me is just a themed version of Gingerbread. Android Market is still too unstable for me. Apps crashing left and right. I still can't find an alarm app in Android that is trust worthy.

Obviously you never used either. In what way is Android Market unstable? Which Apps are crashing on you? Works fine for me and millions of other folks. What's wrong with the built in Clock App for alarms? Wakes me up every day. Maybe you should move from generalities to a specific complaint with some merit.


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Roessnakhan

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Sep 16, 2007
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ICS to me is just a themed version of Gingerbread. Android Market is still too unstable for me. Apps crashing left and right. I still can't find an alarm app in Android that is trust worthy.

What's wrong with the native alarm clock? I've never had an issue with it.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
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Boston, MA
Obviously you never used either. In what way is Android Market unstable? Which Apps are crashing on you? Works fine for me and millions of other folks. What's wrong with the built in Clock App for alarms? Wakes me up every day. Maybe you should move from generalities to a specific complaint with some merit.

More importantly, there are apps that crash on iPhone all the time. My eBay app crashes 2/3 of the time when deleting multiple messages at once. How does that have anything to do with the market it's on?
 

lordofthereef

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Nov 29, 2011
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You really made me laugh as you're completely clueless about which you speak. Which devices won't see ICS for six months? What is basis for the %65 number you mention? Sources? Seriously dude, get some facts before sitting at the adult table.

There is one thing that is GREAT about Android which is also equally terrible (in terms of its reputation); it is available on basically any spec of device the manufacturer wants to use it on. To further the issue, even older versions of android are still available. If I were so inclined, I could produce a phone with eclair, or even earlier (not that it would sell well, but I am just saying). So what this does is has people complaining when they buy a device with outdated hardware, with an already outdated version of Android. They are upset that they aren't getting updates. We are not comparing Apples to Apples here. It is a fallacy to compare iOS to Android in terms of updates. We need to be comparing the Nexus line to the iPhone line in terms of updates. That is a much more fair and, when you look at it, equal comparison.
 

nraudigy2

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Oct 17, 2011
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Stock Android doesn't even have a timer or stopwatch. Isn't that kinda crazy?

A built-in dictionary, emotions and no reminder app? Google Nexus One came out last year and won't get official ICS.
 
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vikingjunior

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This is partially true. Gingerbread has many bugs that were never fixed by Google. Carriers can't update what they don't have. It's true, the skinning of any android OS brings many bugs and glitches that need to be addressed by the manufacturer then approved by the carrier. It's a horrible system and makes perfecting phones very difficult.

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Yes it's there. Not as smooth. Kind of like the right swipe from home on IOS. It stutters a bit going to the spotlight search.

What I find smoother then any is that there Windows Phone. That is one smooth OS.
 

Peterg2

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Jan 28, 2008
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What I find smoother then any is that there Windows Phone. That is one smooth OS.

I can agree with that. With WP8 and a Nokia (a company who definitely knows about industrial design if you look at some of their previous flagships) this could be a compelling reason for me to jump ship. I am OS agnostic and come Q2/Q3, and if for some reason the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 don't do it for me, I will shift.
 

vikingjunior

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I can agree with that. With WP8 and a Nokia (a company who definitely knows about industrial design if you look at some of their previous flagships) this could be a compelling reason for me to jump ship. I am OS agnostic and come Q2/Q3, and if for some reason the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 don't do it for me, I will shift.


Yep there is an article around explaining how Android wasn't originally designed for touchscreens and hence why they just can't get it as smooth as iphone or Windows. No matter what hardware accelerator they put in there it will never be totally smooth.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
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What I find smoother then any is that there Windows Phone. That is one smooth OS.

This is where MS and Apple shine. MS has very specific specs that handset makers must meet. In this sense, it is very similar to Apple's tactic. They design the mobile OS directly for the specific hardware it will be released on.
 

daihard

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Feb 19, 2008
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I would love to try the new Galaxy Nexus once AT&T has released it. I hear very good things about it. I've been an iPhone user for a few years, but being a Linux guy to begin with, I would like to jump into the Android world when the right time comes...
 

Yumunum

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Apr 24, 2011
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Another thing to keep in mind everyone... The Galaxy Nexus speaker sucks. Try it for yourself. It's quieter than the iPhone 4. And the iPhone 4 is quieter than the 4S. It's pretty lame
 

daihard

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Feb 19, 2008
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Another thing to keep in mind everyone... The Galaxy Nexus speaker sucks. Try it for yourself. It's quieter than the iPhone 4. And the iPhone 4 is quieter than the 4S. It's pretty lame

Thanks for the info. That won't be an issue for me as I hardly ever listen to music using the external speaker. :)
 

ICYBLUE1203

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Jun 14, 2010
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I tried the Google Nexus for a week and it's a pretty awesome phone. Every phone has its pros and cons but the pure Google ICS makes a huge difference. My issue with Android was ugly and buggy it was but I had NO issues. It's the only other phone on Verizon I could see myself using (right now) other than an iPhone 4S. The only thing the future iPhone 5 needs is LTE, a slightly bigger screen, and some small iOS updates to make it the almost perfect phone. Yes, the GN needs a better camera when comparing it to the iPhone, but you can manage your way around it if need be. Summer/fall 2012 should be interesting...
 

bigbadneil

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Jul 18, 2009
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Another thing to keep in mind everyone... The Galaxy Nexus speaker sucks. Try it for yourself. It's quieter than the iPhone 4. And the iPhone 4 is quieter than the 4S. It's pretty lame
Hi you are correct about that.........in fact it has been a pain in the you know where as I have missed numerous calls due to the quietness of the speaker. Anyway after looking for help on the Android forum I was told that there is a app called “Volume+” that will fix that problem…………………..I have downloaded it already but unable to upload it to my phone and try it out as I am on an Oil Rig without a wifi connection so I will have to wait until I get off in 2 weeks time…………..I hope it fix’s the only problem that I have with this phone or I will be looking at a new 4s:(:(:(
 

Shockwave78

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Jul 10, 2010
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I waited for the Nexus to come out for months and got one on launch day, i had horrible battery life and returned it the next day. After reading around on phandroid for awhile everyone was convinced that i had a bad battery. The following day I went back and purchased another one and all has been well since.

I am getting about 4 to 4.5hrs usage time when strictly on LTE, when on WIFI i can get up to about 6 to 6.5hrs usage time. I have not tried disabling LTE yet and running 3g only. But after all the new device excitement wears off i probably will.

LTE is friggin fast on verizon, i am getting speeds of 30mb down and 10mb up consistently. The thing is...you don't need that speed at all unless you are watching video or downloading/uploading pics to somewhere. Its a dream to be able to take pics now at work and upload them in seconds rather than 10 minutes on verizons 3g network.

All in all, its a very good OS and after 4yrs of iphones I am gone...
 
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