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janitor1999

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I have gone from the s4 to the 6, as well as the usual bloatware on the s4 and a battery life that wiped the floor with my iPhone 5, I decided to give the 6 a go, and to be honest the day I had to use the s4 it was hell, after 2 months on the iPhone 6. The battery life of the 6 was miles better, I use the phone as a sat nav, after 7 of heavy use the iPhone had gone from 90% to 25%. The day used the s4 needed a charging lead connected in the car to finish the shift.
 

CEmajr

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Went from Note 2 to iPhone 6+. Basically no real difference in adjustments to me, same screen size, iPhone a bit thinner but a bit taller as well. I somewhat miss the S Pen, but nothing to lose sleep over. I do NOT miss Android apps though. Ugly as sin and ALL of them were blown up and didn't fully utilize the potential of a larger screen.

Yes, many 6+ apps are blown up and ugly as well, but there is a fix for that (if you are jailbroken). KakaoTalk which I use religiously was not yet updated for the new resolution, but this fix brings it looking normal. The good news is, the devs will eventually update all the popular apps to support the 6+ and 6 resolutions and look good.

I do like that the 6+ apps that were updated however, made smart use of all that real estate. Alien Blue is done real nice for the larger screen.

My god, I took a huge hit on the resale of the Note 2. It's worth $170-180 right now. iPhone 5 which came out around the same time can still fetch 250 or so, right?

Yes, Androids have terrible resale value relative to iPhones.

On the topic of battery life, the iPhone 6 smokes the GS4 no way around it. The Samsung bloat and other stuff gong on the background kills it quickly.
 

mib1800

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A lot in the apple cocoon world said the 5s has the best battery life in the world and smoked the competitions.

But in the real world we see 5s users bringing along their charger everywhere they go and chances are if you see phones plugin they are iphone. Even ads were made about these wall huggers.
 

UKapple

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I've gone from a iPhone 5 to a galaxy S5 and have to say I wouldn't consider going back to apple for a while, certainly until they bring out a totally new design of the iPhone as I don't consider the iPhone 6 that attractive at all.

I'm not sure where all this talk of android being unstable comes from? I've got exactly the same apps on my S5 as I did on my iPhone 5 and there just isn't an issue, if anything they run quicker and smoother. After many years of iOS I needed a change, it's quite good at what it does but it is just so boring and restrictive. Android just has so much more options, for instance something as simple as being able to save documents in a separate file has made so much of a difference for me.

Each to their own but it will be some time before I will be thinking of switching back.
 

heycal

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I went from an s4 to the iPhone 6. I loved it except I found the screen too small. I upgraded to the 6 plus and I'm much happier now. You can't go wrong with the 6 or 6 plus. I don't think I could ever go back to an android or Samsung phone. I like not having to micro manage everything and the standby time is so much better with an iPhone.

Interesting that the screen size was important between those two phones.

Stand-by time is important to me. There is much of it for me, and I don't want a battery draining away doing nothing.

I switched, and im never going back to Samsung. Been using Android for 2 years before but when Apple announced the 6 I couldn't resist to try it. This is my first iPhone and so far im very satisfied. The S4 is a mediocre crap by Samsung, seriously. Horrible build quality, ugly UI, sluggish OS, and terrible user experience after couple months of usage.


The UI or whatever you call what you're looking at while the phone is on does seem pretty ugly to me. (The LG G2 is gorgeous in comparision).

Sluggish OS and degraded user experience after a couple of months is troubling. How did it get worse?

Texting will be like web surfing if you use white background. In this case AMOLED screen of S4 will do worse than 6 (as in the gsmarena result). If you set to dark background, it may be like video playback.

I would use the white background or whatever the iphone default is for texting. I also check my email from time to time, which is also white background. (My text size if jacked real high so my eyes can see it, if that matters at all.) Given that I never watch video, would this AMOLED screen be wasted on me, and also result in even worse battery life than an iphone 6 for my particular usage patterns?

So usage when the screen is ON is the overriding factor. Since there is no way to get screen-on time in Iphone, so there is no way to really gauge/compare except to refer to those full to empty drain test like in those reviews..

So we should put more stock in the tests performed by those reviews than 'usage' reports from owners when trying to compare these two devices?


If you are not doing a lot of work on your phone and you don't care about customization then go ahead and grab the 6. It ill do it's job well.

It's funny, because I care both very little about customization -- and also care very much about it. There are just a few things I want to change, a few things missing on iphone, that drive me nuts.

I have gone from the s4 to the 6, as well as the usual bloatware on the s4 and a battery life that wiped the floor with my iPhone 5, I decided to give the 6 a go, and to be honest the day I had to use the s4 it was hell, after 2 months on the iPhone 6. The battery life of the 6 was miles better, I use the phone as a sat nav, after 7 of heavy use the iPhone had gone from 90% to 25%. The day used the s4 needed a charging lead connected in the car to finish the shift.

Thanks. Good to know.

On the topic of battery life, the iPhone 6 smokes the GS4 no way around it. The Samsung bloat and other stuff gong on the background kills it quickly.

Some of the phone tests posted don't support this belief.

A lot in the apple cocoon world said the 5s has the best battery life in the world and smoked the competitions.

But in the real world we see 5s users bringing along their charger everywhere they go and chances are if you see phones plugin they are iphone. Even ads were made about these wall huggers.

Right. 5s people are always charging. So will we say the same thing with the 6 when the novelty and hype wears off?

I've gone from a iPhone 5 to a galaxy S5 and have to say I wouldn't consider going back to apple for a while, certainly until they bring out a totally new design of the iPhone as I don't consider the iPhone 6 that attractive at all.

I'm not sure where all this talk of android being unstable comes from? I've got exactly the same apps on my S5 as I did on my iPhone 5 and there just isn't an issue, if anything they run quicker and smoother. k.

The S5 is overall faster? How does the battery compare to your old phone?

For what it's worth, my own experiences and opinions of android v. iphone can be summed up thusly: Android does things so much more efficiently and with fewer steps -- just a much smarter system for real world use -- but is trouble-prone in one way or another. Iphone is pretty to look at and use, and does the limited things it does do reliably and consistently. No "tinkering under the hood" required.
 

Bahroo

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Jul 21, 2012
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Iphone 6 in every single way is better then the Galaxy S4

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Interesting that the screen size was important between those two phones.

Stand-by time is important to me. There is much of it for me, and I don't want a battery draining away doing nothing.



The UI or whatever you call what you're looking at while the phone is on does seem pretty ugly to me. (The LG G2 is gorgeous in comparision).

Sluggish OS and degraded user experience after a couple of months is troubling. How did it get worse?



I would use the white background or whatever the iphone default is for texting. I also check my email from time to time, which is also white background. (My text size if jacked real high so my eyes can see it, if that matters at all.) Given that I never watch video, would this AMOLED screen be wasted on me, and also result in even worse battery life than an iphone 6 for my particular usage patterns?



So we should put more stock in the tests performed by those reviews than 'usage' reports from owners when trying to compare these two devices?




It's funny, because I care both very little about customization -- and also care very much about it. There are just a few things I want to change, a few things missing on iphone, that drive me nuts.



Thanks. Good to know.



Some of the phone tests posted don't support this belief.



Right. 5s people are always charging. So will we say the same thing with the 6 when the novelty and hype wears off?



The S5 is overall faster? How does the battery compare to your old phone?

For what it's worth, my own experiences and opinions of android v. iphone can be summed up thusly: Android does things so much more efficiently and with fewer steps -- just a much smarter system for real world use -- but is trouble-prone in one way or another. Iphone is pretty to look at and use, and does the limited things it does do reliably and consistently. No "tinkering under the hood" required.

Of course the i6 is faster then the S5, its actually quite a bit faster, look at Phonedog's phone speed test between the M8, i6 and S5, the i6 smokes both of them and even some apps had to reload on the Android devices completly and it didnt have to reload at all on the i6
 

UKapple

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Nov 9, 2012
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Interesting that the screen size was important between those two phones.

Stand-by time is important to me. There is much of it for me, and I don't want a battery draining away doing nothing.



The UI or whatever you call what you're looking at while the phone is on does seem pretty ugly to me. (The LG G2 is gorgeous in comparision).

Sluggish OS and degraded user experience after a couple of months is troubling. How did it get worse?



I would use the white background or whatever the iphone default is for texting. I also check my email from time to time, which is also white background. (My text size if jacked real high so my eyes can see it, if that matters at all.) Given that I never watch video, would this AMOLED screen be wasted on me, and also result in even worse battery life than an iphone 6 for my particular usage patterns?



So we should put more stock in the tests performed by those reviews than 'usage' reports from owners when trying to compare these two devices?




It's funny, because I care both very little about customization -- and also care very much about it. There are just a few things I want to change, a few things missing on iphone, that drive me nuts.



Thanks. Good to know.



Some of the phone tests posted don't support this belief.



Right. 5s people are always charging. So will we say the same thing with the 6 when the novelty and hype wears off?



The S5 is overall faster? How does the battery compare to your old phone?

For what it's worth, my own experiences and opinions of android v. iphone can be summed up thusly: Android does things so much more efficiently and with fewer steps -- just a much smarter system for real world use -- but is trouble-prone in one way or another. Iphone is pretty to look at and use, and does the limited things it does do reliably and consistently. No "tinkering under the hood" required.


The battery life compared to my iPhone 5 is massive. Towards the end of my time with my iPhone I was having to charge it 2-3 times a day which is just crazy. This was one of the reasons for making the jump to android, the charging issue was such a pain that I even paid to get out of my phone contract 3 months early. In reality the battery on the S5 will degrade over time but at least I can easily buy a new one and quickly swap it over.

I wouldn't say I would never go back to iOS but I just needed a change as the overall feel and layout has changed very little since 2007 and it's just stale and boring. I'm am very much liking the overall flexibility of android, you can just do so much with it.
 

themyst

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A lot in the apple cocoon world said the 5s has the best battery life in the world and smoked the competitions.

But in the real world we see 5s users bringing along their charger everywhere they go and chances are if you see phones plugin they are iphone. Even ads were made about these wall huggers.

iOS devices have AMAZING standby power management, and that is where Android does not fare as well.

However, when it comes to on-screen time with heavy use, the older iPhones sucked and that's not an understatement. The 6+ is very good though, as it should be with that battery capacity.

So this is why there may be differing opinions; light users would actually say the iPhone battery life is fantastic, and they aren't wrong. However heavy users of their phones would say it sucks, and they are also not lying. The difference is in the details.
 

UKapple

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Obviously The speed of my S5 compared to my iPhone 5 is greater as it a newer phone. Is it quicker than a iphone 6, I really don't know as I haven't used one but I think you have to base your opinions on your own experiences of the devices as opposed to these online tests which more often than not can be biased towards one brand more than the other. I would say that you have to take into account that the S5 has a lot of tech crammed into it as well.
 

CEmajr

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A lot in the apple cocoon world said the 5s has the best battery life in the world and smoked the competitions.

But in the real world we see 5s users bringing along their charger everywhere they go and chances are if you see phones plugin they are iphone. Even ads were made about these wall huggers.

You're basing your comments off a Samsung propaganda ad? Who's living in the cocoon world again? Next thing I know you'll be calling iPhone owners "Sheep" because Samsung said so.

I don't know what cocoon world you live in but most people bring their phone chargers everywhere regardless of device. They have one in their car, usually one at work/school, and several at home. It's not unique to any platform. You're probably seeing more with iPhones because there are more iPhone owners than Galaxy owners period. Plus don't Galaxy users usually brag about being able to swap batteries easily because it dies so quickly? You can't have it both ways. If the battery were so long lasting then they wouldn't be carrying extra ones around to power them throughout the day.

The GS4 and GS5 are both atrocious when it comes to standby battery. So much bloat in the background kills them quickly and that's pretty much the way it is. I'd give the GS5 better overall battery life than the 5S, but the 6 tops them both. Get outside of your "cocoon world" for a change and notice the difference.
 

heycal

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Iphone 6 in every single way is better then the Galaxy S4


Except in several areas of great importance to me: a notification light, no annoying and pointless sound on outgoing texts, and a good swiftkey keyboard, not to mention the ability to use an app called blacklist which kills off unwanted calls.

iOS devices have AMAZING standby power management, and that is where Android does not fare as well.

Where does texting every 10 or 15 minutes fall on the standby versus heavy use scale? A little of both perhaps?


The GS4 and GS5 are both atrocious when it comes to standby battery. So much bloat in the background kills them quickly and that's pretty much the way it is. I'd give the GS5 better overall battery life than the 5S, but the 6 tops them both.

What are you basing these statements on?
 

UKapple

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You're basing your comments off a Samsung propaganda ad? Who's living in the cocoon world again? Next thing I know you'll be calling iPhone owners "Sheep" because Samsung said so.

I don't know what cocoon world you live in but most people bring their phone chargers everywhere regardless of device. They have one in their car, usually one at work/school, and several at home. It's not unique to any platform. You're probably seeing more with iPhones because there are more iPhone owners than Galaxy owners period. Plus don't Galaxy users usually brag about being able to swap batteries easily because it dies so quickly? You can't have it both ways. If the battery were so long lasting then they wouldn't be carrying extra ones around to power them throughout the day.

The GS4 and GS5 are both atrocious when it comes to standby battery. So much bloat in the background kills them quickly and that's pretty much the way it is. I'd give the GS5 better overall battery life than the 5S, but the 6 tops them both. Get outside of your "cocoon world" for a change and notice the difference.


Have you actually owned a GS5? From my actual real life experience the stand by time is far from atrocious and I don't need to carry around a charger or spare battery.

I really don't understand why people get so uptight when there is criticism or negativity aimed at there phone! And that goes for both Apple and android fans ! It comes across as quite childish to be honest and reminds me of the old playground banter between kids, 'my dads bigger than your dad'

There are pro's and cons to all phones but some people take things way too personally, they can't have much happening in their life I guess!
 

CEmajr

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Have you actually owned a GS5? From my actual real life experience the stand by time is far from atrocious and I don't need to carry around a charger or spare battery.

I really don't understand why people get so uptight when there is criticism or negativity aimed at there phone! And that goes for both Apple and android fans ! It comes across as quite childish to be honest and reminds me of the old playground banter between kids, 'my dads bigger than your dad'

There are pro's and cons to all phones but some people take things way too personally, they can't have much happening in their life I guess!

Yes I have a second line that I use various phones throughout the year with though for my main line I always use an iPhone. Had the Tmobile S5 for about a month over the summer. Atrocious may have been a harsh word to describe it, but the device seems to use considerably more battery power while in standby than iPhones. It would drop a lot more overnight than my 5S or 6.

I usually try to refrain from commenting on heavily biased posts from Android users because it usually does end up as an all out Android vs iOS discussion, but blatant, unobjective, misinformation like the post I quoted earlier irks me at times.

Carry on
 

warnerve

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Sluggish OS and degraded user experience after a couple of months is troubling. How did it get worse?



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The system started becoming slow, I dont know exactly why. Maybe because I had so much pictures and music in it. I tried factory reset, it solved for a couple weeks, but then same behaviour again. After that I decided to flash a newer firmware (samsung original), went to sammobile got the newest one and flashed it. Brand new GS4 feel? Not so fast... This damn ORIGINAL firmware was more buggy than my previous one! (Yes I did flash it correctly) Sometimes I experienced totally random reboots, and another rebooting whenever I tried to open the camera app (it froze then the system rebooted) pretty frustrating for me... And then something happened with my micro sd card, i dont know wth why, but my sd card got a bug so that I cant delete any file no matter what, I've tried formatting from the phone, on my PC, on other peoples phones, but no matter how many times I tried to delete something the data was still there, again pretty ****ing frustrating. Thank you samsung!
 

perezr10

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A lot in the apple cocoon world said the 5s has the best battery life in the world and smoked the competitions.

But in the real world we see 5s users bringing along their charger everywhere they go and chances are if you see phones plugin they are iphone. Even ads were made about these wall huggers.

Oh please. Don't sound so sanctimonious. Anandtech reported that the 5S had worse battery life than the iPhone 5 in the light web usage graph that I showed. So I guess he was right on the money there? Warts and all.

Your web history seems to show that your sole purpose in life is coming to Apple forums and complaining. what's your deal anyway? Do you even like Apple products?
 

HenryDJP

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Only thing keeping me with Apple is 1.resale value 2.how great the Touch ID works for unlocking.

The Touch I.D. I definitely understand. It far outshines Samsung's stupid method of a fingerprint scanner, but this thing about "Resale Value" is just ridiculous to me. Buy the product for YOUR enjoyment, not someone else's in the future because that's what you're doing when you're buying something for the resale value. It's just as bad as buying a case, screen protector and other nonsense to fully coverup your product so it doesn't get scratched so it has higher "resale" value. It's basically saying I will give up my enjoyment so the person I sell it to in the future can have nice product.

Look, just realize that Apple's phones have now reached to the point that what they are putting out is not very future proof and most people will want the latest version or Apple will make certain that their latest OS works best on their latest phones.
 

penfan82

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Raises hand had the s4 loved the screen size was nice having the removable battery and liked the freedom of not having to play with iTunes for ringtones music etc can't really say anything bad about it except the battery life 6 is much better I was always plugged into a charger with the Galaxy
 

ezekiel97

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You're digging too much into it. For me these phones are like Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla..same thing basically..so I'll take the one that sells better. I am really considering selling my 6 plus and getting a note 4 and pay for almost the whole galaxy gear watch
 

heycal

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The system started becoming slow, I dont know exactly why. Maybe because I had so much pictures and music in it. I tried factory reset, it solved for a couple weeks, but then same behaviour again. After that I decided to flash a newer firmware (samsung original), went to sammobile got the newest one and flashed it. Brand new GS4 feel? Not so fast... This damn ORIGINAL firmware was more buggy than my previous one! (Yes I did flash it correctly) Sometimes I experienced totally random reboots, and another rebooting whenever I tried to open the camera app (it froze then the system rebooted) pretty frustrating for me... And then something happened with my micro sd card, i dont know wth why, but my sd card got a bug so that I cant delete any file no matter what, I've tried formatting from the phone, on my PC, on other peoples phones, but no matter how many times I tried to delete something the data was still there, again pretty ****ing frustrating. Thank you samsung!

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These are the kinds of stories that scare me….

Raises hand had the s4 loved the screen size was nice having the removable battery and liked the freedom of not having to play with iTunes for ringtones music etc can't really say anything bad about it except the battery life 6 is much better I was always plugged into a charger with the Galaxy

How about performance and reliability? How do they compare?
 

heycal

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Anyone else?

I thought I was leaning toward iphone 6 after this thread, but an acquaintance had a Galaxy the other night and I was liking the looks of it...
 

janitor1999

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Of course the other thing is is updates, with Google lollipop just released, it will be a while before Samsung will let you have it. Took over six months before they released kitkat for the s4, and although they say lollipop will be on the s4, or wouldn't be the first time they have changed their minds. Wouldn't have another Samsung, next android will be a nexus. As well as the 6 which I wouldn't be without I have s nexus 4 brilliant phone, the s4 hardly ever gets used.
 

the caveman

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Of course the other thing is is updates, with Google lollipop just released, it will be a while before Samsung will let you have it. Took over six months before they released kitkat for the s4, and although they say lollipop will be on the s4, or wouldn't be the first time they have changed their minds. Wouldn't have another Samsung, next android will be a nexus. As well as the 6 which I wouldn't be without I have s nexus 4 brilliant phone, the s4 hardly ever gets used.


Hit nail on the head. It boggles my mind that the galaxy s4, last years flag ship, never got the new Touch Wiz UI, even thought they updated the S4 to 4.4 but it will never get the new TW. Samsung wants you to buy galaxy S5 to get the new TW.

That is my biggest gripe with samsung. With apple at least, you'll get the updates,
 

heycal

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Hit nail on the head. It boggles my mind that the galaxy s4, last years flag ship, never got the new Touch Wiz UI, even thought they updated the S4 to 4.4 but it will never get the new TW. Samsung wants you to buy galaxy S5 to get the new TW.

That is my biggest gripe with samsung. With apple at least, you'll get the updates,

It what ways might this matter? Would I even notice I was not using the latest version of something? Or does it causes problems of some kind?

Same here.

How did the s3 and 6 compare? How was battery life? And speed? And glitch/headache factor, if any?
 

AppleFanatic10

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It what ways might this matter? Would I even notice I was not using the latest version of something? Or does it causes problems of some kind?



How did the s3 and 6 compare? How was battery life? And speed? And glitch/headache factor, if any?


Battery life was so bad I had to buy an Anker battery for my S3. It wouldn't last the whole day while I was in class. I say about 11am I was at 50%. Too many glitches, apps were horrible.
 
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