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jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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It has the same ppi as the 4 inch iPhone 5/5S and is only 720p.

How predictable....

I bet you think the Note 4 is amazing and has the best display out there because of its high PPI and resolution.

Am I right?

Except, if you take into account the technologies behind each display you get a different story.

But hey, I don't want to make you think too hard. Stick with the "bigger numbers = better" theory. Seems to work for many Android fans.
 

Shanghaichica

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Apr 8, 2013
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How predictable....

I bet you think the Note 4 is amazing and has the best display out there because of its high PPI and resolution.

Am I right?

Except, if you take into account the technologies behind each display you get a different story.

But hey, I don't want to make you think too hard. Stick with the "bigger numbers = better" theory. Seems to work for many Android fans.

I Haven't seen the note 4 yet so I'm willing to hold off judgement between it and the 6 plus until I see them both.

The 6 is just disappointing by any means.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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I Haven't seen the note 4 yet so I'm willing to hold off judgement between it and the 6 plus until I see them both.

The 6 is just disappointing by any means.

"By any means" - really just one "mean"....the resolution.

Which, to be honest, is only one part of the display. Take the Note - it uses a Pentile matrix so that 516 ppi you think you're getting isn't quite that.

Smarter folks than I have done the math and the 6+ actually comes out ahead.

As for the 6 - have you seen it in person? What's so disappointing, aside from some number on a spec sheet? Are the colors washed out? Is it blurry? Poor viewing angles?

The answer to all of those is of course, no. In fact, iPhones have traditionally had some of the most color accurate displays in the industry. Take into account that reviewers are also saying that the 6 and 6+ do very well (better than competitors) in direct sunlight, and I'm still waiting for you to define "disappointing by any means".
 
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Markyboy81

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"By any means" - really just one "mean"....the resolution.

Which, to be honest, is only one part of the display. Take the Note - it uses a Pentile matrix so that 516 ppi you think you're getting isn't quite that.

Smarter folks than I have done the math and the 6+ actually comes out ahead.

As for the 6 - have you seen it in person? What's so disappointing, aside from some number on a spec sheet? Are the colors washed out? Is it blurry? Poor viewing angles?

The answer to all of those is of course, no. In fact, iPhones have traditionally had some of the most color accurate displays in the industry. Take into account that reviewers are also saying that the 6 and 6+ do very well (better than competitors) in direct sunlight, and I'm still waiting for you to define "disappointing by any means".
Have you read this thread? I imagine the note 4 display will come out on top compared to the 6 plus..
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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Personally I think the iPhone 6 is compelling. Phablets aren't my thing. No new phone for me this year, but if there was the 6 would certainly be in the running.

My biggest complaint has nothing to do with the phone itself, but lack of cross platform continuity.
 

Shanghaichica

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Apr 8, 2013
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"By any means" - really just one "mean"....the resolution.

Which, to be honest, is only one part of the display. Take the Note - it uses a Pentile matrix so that 516 ppi you think you're getting isn't quite that.

Smarter folks than I have done the math and the 6+ actually comes out ahead.

As for the 6 - have you seen it in person? What's so disappointing, aside from some number on a spec sheet? Are the colors washed out? Is it blurry? Poor viewing angles?

The answer to all of those is of course, no. In fact, iPhones have traditionally had some of the most color accurate displays in the industry. Take into account that reviewers are also saying that the 6 and 6+ do very well (better than competitors) in direct sunlight, and I'm still waiting for you to define "disappointing by any means".

Well I've only read the tech radar review if the 6 plus so far. Which states that the screen is nice but not as good as the S5 or G3.
 

bobenhaus

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Yep, I am.

I've been on Android since the original Moto Droid, but I'll be giving the i6+ a test run when my upgrade comes through in November. If I like it, I'll keep it...if not, I'll return it and pick up the new Moto X.

You will find the app store is nothing compared to the Android store. Apps are very restrictive and a lot of apps that mature people want to use are not allowed.

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slow? iphone is everything but slow

theres a common misconception here about cpus in our mobile devices...

iphones 5s is twice as fast as the fastest android phone. ask me how do i know that

You wish. Android is a lot faster but you wouldn't understand unless you've used the phone for about 6 months or so. There is a big difference between the two OS's. Both have their plus and minus's.
 

jrswizzle

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You will find the app store is nothing compared to the Android store. Apps are very restrictive and a lot of apps that mature people want to use are not allowed.

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You wish. Android is a lot faster but you wouldn't understand unless you've used the phone for about 6 months or so. There is a big difference between the two OS's. Both have their plus and minus's.

I've used Android for 2 years - as my daily driver.

Android is not "a lot faster". iOS is more fluid.

There isn't really any difference in the app stores - except that Apple's has a ton of iPad specific apps.

You are correct that both have their pros and cons - and ultimately it just comes down to what works best for a particular user.

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Well I've only read the tech radar review if the 6 plus so far. Which states that the screen is nice but not as good as the S5 or G3.

Interesting. I'm waiting on DisplayMate's review and Anandtech's. DisplayMate throws around a ton of crazy industry jargon and it seems like they really hone in on the underlying details of what makes a truly great display.

And anandtech's reviews are ALWAYS incredibly thorough.

But at the end of the day, it's all about how the display looks. Not numbers, not technology - but what you see when you look at it.

People have differing opinions regarding what they see. I've used a ton of smartphones - some Android devices that supposedly have a "far superior" display to the iPhone.

I have yet to notice any worthwhile difference.
 

Oohara

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Interesting. I'm waiting on DisplayMate's review and Anandtech's. DisplayMate throws around a ton of crazy industry jargon and it seems like they really hone in on the underlying details of what makes a truly great display.

And anandtech's reviews are ALWAYS incredibly thorough.

But at the end of the day, it's all about how the display looks. Not numbers, not technology - but what you see when you look at it.

People have differing opinions regarding what they see. I've used a ton of smartphones - some Android devices that supposedly have a "far superior" display to the iPhone.

I have yet to notice any worthwhile difference.
It will be extra interesting to see how the iP6 displays are, as honestly it's easier to see the finer nuances of a display when it gets bigger. For the 4" format I find that I don't care so much as long as the resolution is high enough. On a 5.5"+ display though, any deficiencies become that much more visible IMO. It will be especially interesting to compare the 6 Plus and the N4 of course. I'm guessing they will both be excellent, just with different character. :)
 

PFKMan23

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Jan 12, 2012
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I owned the 4S and the 5 for about 2 weeks each, but that was before I really got into smartphones. The 6 Plus is making me think again as I feel the recent Android phones are just as uninspiring, but I'm still displeased with what i have now.
 

rtomyj

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Sep 3, 2012
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When Apple can match 2014 specs, technology, and components, and when they open up iOS, I will be a customer. But the iPhone is way too slow, the display is among the worst in its class, and iOS is not usable.

Where are the cameras? Hate to be that guy, but is Samsung paying you? I mean, they have been known for doing that and it's pure blasphemy what you said.

Apple has never been about specs. Live it, learn it, good?

iOS does not to be as open as android to be successful. Android is JUST barely catching up to all quality that iOS had for years. I say this as someone who had an android as his first smartphone, as and android app developer and as a current owner of a Nexus 5 AND 7.

My iPhone 5 is faster and more responsive than my Nexus 5. Let me rephrase that, a dual core,1 gig of ram, 2 year old phone is faster than a higher speced newer phone.

The display is actually pretty good. Samsung has horribly saturated AMOLED screens. LG is great, HTC is decent. How the new iPhones will fair is yet to be seen, but I'm guessing it'll knock out HTC and Samsung out of the water.
 

firoban

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Sep 10, 2014
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The iPhone 6 and Plus interest me ZERO. Just more of the same again on a larger low res screen.

The Note 4 is a far superior phone to the 6 Plus, and not just hardware wise, but with the Stylus and multi window, etc... The Note 4 was just awarded the top display ever in a smartphone.

I also think for smaller phones, the HTC One M8 'GPE' version is the best phone out in 2014.

And with Material Design coming to Android 5.0 L release, I think the Android OS will look better and cooler than ever.
Samsung smartphones always sounds tempting during announcement but when we use it there is slwats something missing. I had note 3 for almost an year, i liked using it but it never became perfect as I wanted. I wanted to get rid of touchwiz so i installed custom rom but that made me loose all S Pen functions.

There are lots of options with Note 3 but honestly it gets tiresome to customise everything in order to make it simpler for yourself. I had note 3 as well as 5s and I used 5s more frequently.

After selling both 5s and Note 3 I have G3 now and absolutely love it. I am going to use both 6plus/G3 for this year.

From my experience so far android with LG is better option than Android with samsung.
 

Stuntman06

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Sep 19, 2011
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If any Android users are thinking of switching to the iPhone because they now have third party keyboards, I recommend that they hold off. I just tried SwiftKey for iOS on my iPad Mini and I am extremely disappointed. It is a shadow of what it is on Android.

It may be that the version of SwiftKey is so stripped down because they wanted to make it available on day 1 of iOS 8. Perhaps, later versions will have the features I have been accustomed to on Android. For now, I'm just not impressed with SwiftKey for iOS and am just going to continue using the standard iOS keyboard on my iPad Mini.
 

verpeiler

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May 11, 2013
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I'm interested in the iPhone 6; the Plus is too big for my taste, I'd rather use a small tablet (Nexus 7 or iPad Mini) for that use scenario. And I'm curious about the first weeks of real use and how it performs... no need to rush for me.

But my HTC One M7 still runs great and there's no need to buy an iPhone instead.. the iPhone is not faster (in the real world), nor brings anything new to the table that the One doesn't have (maybe except for touch ID).
 
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dayloon

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I've had several iphones and android phones over the years. There is one main reason i keep going back to the iphone and that is Apple.

Their customer service is unlike anything i've ever experienced.

My wife accidentally dropped her iphone 5 in the bath just over 11 months after we purchased it. It would switch on but the display was a bit screwed and the wifi stopped working. I booked a genius appointment & took it to the apple store who told me "Lets just pretend the wifi stopped working before it was dropped in the bath and do a warranty exchange". We walked out with a brand new iphone and didn't pay a single penny.

How many other phone manufacturers would do that ? Nevermind 11 months after you purchased it ? None.

I've used Apple support several times and they are always like this. They bend over backwards to help you instead of just looking for ways to get money out of you.
 
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Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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I got iOS 8 installed on my iPhone 5. There's a lot to like in there, but the widget and extensions support is lacking all to hell for now.

The other issue is limited iCloud drive support, so anyone hoping for a file system will be disappointed.

This will probably take a couple of months to sort out but I can see the potential. Still if you are coming from a flagship android phone expect a hit to experience flexibility you might be accustomed to.

Performance was blistering though with appreciable smoothness over my S5 even on a 2-year old phone. Safari didn't seem too reload happy either, like iOS 7.

Voice messages in imessage is pretty awesome. The new keyboard is gold. It's incredibly fast compared to the original one.

All in all iOS 8 is impressive but familiar, more refinement than mind blowing until devs catch up.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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If any Android users are thinking of switching to the iPhone because they now have third party keyboards, I recommend that they hold off. I just tried SwiftKey for iOS on my iPad Mini and I am extremely disappointed. It is a shadow of what it is on Android.

It may be that the version of SwiftKey is so stripped down because they wanted to make it available on day 1 of iOS 8. Perhaps, later versions will have the features I have been accustomed to on Android. For now, I'm just not impressed with SwiftKey for iOS and am just going to continue using the standard iOS keyboard on my iPad Mini.

Yeah, the word is that the iPad versions aren't ready for prime time, so to speak. Swiftkey is my keyboard of choice on Android so I installed it on my 5s and think it's pretty good--has same great prediction and IMO, looks great, even better than how I remember it. The swipe functionality also worked well.
 

Dontazemebro

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Jul 23, 2010
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I got iOS 8 installed on my iPhone 5. There's a lot to like in there, but the widget and extensions support is lacking all to hell for now.



The other issue is limited iCloud drive support, so anyone hoping for a file system will be disappointed.



This will probably take a couple of months to sort out but I can see the potential. Still if you are coming from a flagship android phone expect a hit to experience flexibility you might be accustomed to.



Performance was blistering though with appreciable smoothness over my S5 even on a 2-year old phone. Safari didn't seem too reload happy either, like iOS 7.



Voice messages in imessage is pretty awesome. The new keyboard is gold. It's incredibly fast compared to the original one.



All in all iOS 8 is impressive but familiar, more refinement than mind blowing until devs catch up.


Hmmm interesting. I wouldn't mind getting a copy of iOS 8 to run on my 5s. How would the average Joe go about doing this?
 

Oohara

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I've had several iphones and android phones over the years. There is one main reason i keep going back to the iphone and that is Apple.

Their customer service is unlike anything i've ever experienced.

My wife accidentally dropped her iphone 5 in the bath just over 11 months after we purchased it. It would switch on but the display was a bit screwed and the wifi stopped working. I booked a genius appointment & took it to the apple store who told me "Lets just pretend the wifi stopped working before it was dropped in the bath and do a warranty exchange". We walked out with a brand new iphone and didn't pay a single penny.

How many other phone manufacturers would do that ? Nevermind 11 months after you purchased it ? None.

I've used Apple support several times and they are always like this. They bend over backwards to help you instead of just looking for ways to get money out of you.

I don't dispute that Apple's customer service is the best there is, but you have to realise that what you experienced is far from the norm. If this is indeed *always* how it is for you, then you must be truly blessed. I had the exact same situation with dunking my new 4S just days after buying it. No such luck with the Genius that helped me, it was pay up the replacement fee or no iPhone. Of all my friends who have iPhones (many), I've only heard of one guy who had your luck, once.

So, of course Apple's customer service is awesome - and I was indeed very happy to get a refurbished replacement unit for just 150 bucks! - but these cases of generosity extending above and beyond the call of duty is firstly a case of that particular person being very kind. And such people can appear in any circumstance or at any customer service.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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Hmmm interesting. I wouldn't mind getting a copy of iOS 8 to run on my 5s. How would the average Joe go about doing this?

Can't tell if you're joking, but in the event that you're serious, look under Settings > General > Software Update on your 5S.
 
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