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CourtneyA1

macrumors newbie
Jun 28, 2007
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Orange County, CA
Got the email.

Got my iPhone yesterday. In the store, I got my "push" from an already set up mm account.

Yesterday, I entered a bunch more contacts and appts on my ical, and JUST GOT the data on the iPhone. A full 24 hrs later. I"m just glad it worked! It definitely required some patience.

FYI: setting up Yahoo plus account: "pushed" in a couple of hours, and now fine.
 

KiwiLee

macrumors member
Jul 16, 2008
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Wellington, NZ
Well its nice to finally hear from Apple for sure, and i cant scoff at the 30days extra, although i still have had no emails about it myself?

But does any of this matter when MobileMe still doesn't work proper ?
 

rtdunham

macrumors 6502a
Jun 21, 2003
991
81
St. Petersburg, FL, Northern KY
There's already a 'hack' when you change your prefs file. you can set it to 1 minute if you desire. Long talked about on here already.

but that's not the same, it's not as efficient as syncing/pushing ONLY when a change has been made. you might not make a change for an hour; do you want 60 unnecessary syncs initiated during that time instead?
 

autumnsong

macrumors member
Oct 26, 2007
93
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Western North Carolina
impressed

I am impressed that Apple sent us emails (more personal than just posting an apology on their website, for example) and the 30 day extension was a nice touch. Few companies would do this. Well done, Apple. :apple:
 

nvbrit

macrumors 6502
Oct 12, 2007
326
1
Reno, NV
Apple was premature in sending out that email. MobileMe is still not working properly. Second, email for mac.com/me is not working either. Someone is not doing their job at Apple properly. Not testing thoroughly.

Apple has never said it's working 100% correctly, look at the support page for MobileMe, there you'll find the current status. The email was to acknowledge the problems, talk about 'push' and offer compensation in the form of the 30 days extension.
 

bj3949

macrumors 6502
Jun 30, 2007
254
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The Answer to iCal not Pushing........for now

The Answer to iCal not Pushing........for now.

You'll thank me for this.

In your home folder, go to Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.DotMacSync--------------

Open this file with Property List Editor:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14363

Once you open this file, change the AutoSyncInterval number from 15 to 1.
Then save the file.

After a little while, iCal will now sync every minute instead of every 15 minutes.

It might take a restart for it to start working, but eventually it will work.

It's pretty awesome.

Let me know if you have any questions.
 

wizard

macrumors 68040
May 29, 2003
3,854
571
I’m quickly becoming less and less optimistic about a timely (ie pre September, in time for college) laptop refresh.
err that is hardware. More so a completely different division and should be running free of trouble.
With all the iphone frenzy and the challenges they’re having with iphone and mobile me software, things don’t look promising for them piling on another hardware release soon…

There is little to tie the different areas together. Like always Apple will deliver the upgraded hardware in their own sweet time. I'm still thinking we will be lucky if we see new laptops by September.

Dave
 

marksman

macrumors 603
Jun 4, 2007
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It just ... the more I think about it, the more it bugs me. The iPhone is a LESS advanced development platform with a LESS advanced processor and LESS advanced infrastructure. It has a SLOWER internet connection than most PCs and Macs, yet it can Push to the cloud?

Why?

Why can the iPhone push to cloud but not Macs and PCs? It just boggles my ****ing mind. Instead of posting apology letters, send out a ****ing preference pane with mobilemed daemon, I don't care if it takes up 120mb of RAM, and have it push to the cloud every time a change occurs! I mean come on, you have developers that can code these insane ass web apps, but you can't write a simple background daemon that will push updates to the cloud as they are made?

****ing hell.

My feelings too, until it was pointed out the problem is not the mac itself it is the applications themselves that need to be updated to make this work.
 

marksman

macrumors 603
Jun 4, 2007
5,764
5
30 extra days on a subscription service is literally NOTHING. It has no value, and will likely never be "collected" by any paying user. It's a dodge, and a sop to those who are on the "trial." It has absolutely no affect, and is of no benefit to the actual paying users of the system like myself. That being said, we are still looking at less than five bucks worth of down time, so I don't really care about the "30 day bonus."

Now that you have had some time to reflect on this, I hope you realize that you were essentially 100% wrong about this?

If I pay for 12 months of something and it is down for 2 weeks because of issues, and they give me 30 days compensation, then I got what I paid for and then some.

Saying it is meaningless as it relates to a subscription service is pretty ignorant.

If the problems persist past 30 days then there is another issue to address, otherwise it is reasonable and desirable compensation. Claiming it is worthless is just wrong on your part.
 

rdowns

macrumors Penryn
Jul 11, 2003
27,397
12,521
The Answer to iCal not Pushing........for now.

You'll thank me for this.

In your home folder, go to Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.DotMacSync--------------

Open this file with Property List Editor:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14363

Once you open this file, change the AutoSyncInterval number from 15 to 1.
Then save the file.

After a little while, iCal will now sync every minute instead of every 15 minutes.

It might take a restart for it to start working, but eventually it will work.

It's pretty awesome.

Let me know if you have any questions.

THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA

First, if a lot of people do this, there is too much strain put on Apple's already overloaded servers.

Second, your machine could still be doing a sync when a new one is requested in a minute. No telling what may happen there.

I can see syncing more often than 15 minutes but every minute is overkill.
 

vandozza

macrumors 6502a
Jun 14, 2006
612
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Australia
also as mentioned previously, it's probable that many users have turned off the "recieve email notifications from apple" checkbox/option.

and might not ever receive the email. we will wait and see! :)
 

alFR

macrumors 68030
Aug 10, 2006
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The Answer to iCal not Pushing........for now.
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As has already been pointed out this is at best not a good idea and at worst is retarded, for the following reasons:

1. Push is not = sync. A sync requires comparison of the contents of the databases on your mac and on the cloud, whereas a push just sends the changed data. Thus a sync is much more server-intensive and everyone setting it to every minute will absolutely hammer the servers.
2. If the server is busy (say, being hammered by thousands of other every-minute syncs) and your TCPIP timeout is more than 60s it could try to sync again before the first one is fully initiated. That doesn't sound good to me.
3. If you have a lot of data to sync, you could also be trying to sync again before the first one is done. Again, not a good idea.

If it's that important to you to get a change up there This Second, initiate a manual sync and don't DOS the Me servers by sending loads of unnecessary sync requests, thereby making the service worse for everyone.
 

Daveoc64

macrumors 601
Jan 16, 2008
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Bristol, UK
also as mentioned previously, it's probable that many users have turned off the "recieve email notifications from apple" checkbox/option.

and might not ever receive the email. we will wait and see! :)

Surely they can make an exception for this?

It's important service information.

A bit like MacRumors - they can e-mail you if there's something wrong with your account.
 

Daveoc64

macrumors 601
Jan 16, 2008
4,075
95
Bristol, UK
As has already been pointed out this is at best not a good idea and at worst is retarded, for the following reasons:

1. Push is not = sync. A sync requires comparison of the contents of the databases on your mac and on the cloud, whereas a push just sends the changed data. Thus a sync is much more server-intensive and everyone setting it to every minute will absolutely hammer the servers.
2. If the server is busy (say, being hammered by thousands of other every-minute syncs) and your TCPIP timeout is more than 60s it could try to sync again before the first one is fully initiated. That doesn't sound good to me.
3. If you have a lot of data to sync, you could also be trying to sync again before the first one is done. Again, not a good idea.

If it's that important to you to get a change up there This Second, initiate a manual sync and don't DOS the Me servers by sending loads of unnecessary sync requests, thereby making the service worse for everyone.

On the flip side, if people are syncing frequently, Apple might get the message that we want "push" to be implemented as it was described on their site before.

I would put the interval at 3 minutes, as far as I can tell there would be no problem with doing multiple syncs - it would just ignore the subsequent ones.
 

bogman12

macrumors regular
Sep 20, 2007
218
0
Why would it take a public outcry for them to realize they shouldn't mislabel things for marketing purposes?
 

Mindflux

macrumors 68000
Oct 20, 2007
1,987
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Austin
That doesn't count as an apology, just a cover up. Yes Vista is running well now... for the 9 people using it.

:rolleyes:

Vista may be 'ok' now, but I'm pretty sure more than 9 folks are running it. In fact I'd wager that there are more people running Vista than all the versions of OS X combined.
 

seedster2

macrumors 6502a
Sep 16, 2007
686
0
NYC
Why would it take a public outcry for them to realize they shouldn't mislabel things for marketing purposes?

Precisely, I am always weary of their keynotes.

I wait for the faithful to run and buy, accept the new product's final version (which is inevitably different than advertised at keynote), then decide if it's worth the time and effort.
 

Virgil-TB2

macrumors 65816
Aug 3, 2007
1,143
1
fooled!

Now that you have had some time to reflect on this, I hope you realize that you were essentially 100% wrong about this?

If I pay for 12 months of something and it is down for 2 weeks because of issues, and they give me 30 days compensation, then I got what I paid for and then some.

Saying it is meaningless as it relates to a subscription service is pretty ignorant.

If the problems persist past 30 days then there is another issue to address, otherwise it is reasonable and desirable compensation. Claiming it is worthless is just wrong on your part.
I don't know what the heck you are talking about.
I haven't changed my opinion on this and nothing you have said has changed it either.

You are being fooled. Your "free month" is only on paper and constitutes no real value. In fact it's so obvious I don't understand why you are even arguing about it. I'm sure it's irritating to be fooled like this, but once someone points it out to you, the only rational approach is just to admit that you were fooled, not just claim that black is white.

If you are on a free trial (the market the "free month" promotion is aimed at), it's a good value. It give you the time to truly assess the service given that the first week or two were total crap.

If you are a paid member, it does literally nothing at all. There have been no changes made to my account yet, but presumably it will just change the date of my renewal to one month further in the future. The only way this benefits me, is if I *don't* renew my subscription, I get one last month longer than I thought. Even so, if they change the renewal date, the effective change when I stop renewing is actually even less, especially if I have been living with the new renewal date for some time.

If (and this is a big if as it contradicts the emails Apple has been sending out), they actually give me $9.08 Canadian off of my next renewal, then that would be an actual cash saving or "real" benefit. Still it's less than ten bucks. Imagine the outcry if Apple had instead announced that they were giving everyone ten bucks for their trouble. It wouldn't sound as good as this promotion would it? ;)

In any case Apple has indicated in emails that this is not what they are going to do anyway. It's an "extension" of an essentially unlimited time frame. Kind of like saying that new evidence has shown the Universe will last a week longer than thought, :rolleyes: it doesn't really help those of us that probably won't last until then.

This "gift" has no value at all for paid members and is certainly not recompense for the myriad failings of .Mac and now MobileMe.

I'm not one of those complainers that thinks that this stuff should be free and the 100 bucks a year seems more than fair IMO. However, the service has always kind of sucked, and the features and benefits promised over the years have never materialised. Apple has failed time and time again to provide these. Now we have even less features for the same price, but they are all (for me) severely broken.

Great work Apple! ;)

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