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About time. This is when ios finally becomes good as people will now be making apps GOOD rather than based on Apple politics. Couldn't have come any sooner good job EU
I’m never ever downloading a single app that’s not through Apple and anyone who does should know they’re a victim.

Having your data farmed at much higher levels is not a win lol.
 
For people who would like nearly all 100% of the price they pay for an app to go to the developer, they can buy direct from the developer... as I've done many times when buying apps for my Mac. No problems. No consequences. Apple doesn't get 30% right off the top of those sales... but then again, Apple didn't code the app either. When possible, I'd rather the "starving artist" who actually makes the "art" to get the bulk of the money, instead of the thoroughly rich retailer who doesn't really need a first 30% of every sale to continue being thoroughly successful and rich.

For EU consumers, this gives them such choices. For the rest of us, one sole retailer controls 100% of all apps we can buy for OUR product... and is first in line at the profit slicing in each transaction... even ahead of the creator of the app themselves.
IT's not that simple. ...if the commission goes away the market will force the price down and the starving artists will get the same amount of money they were getting. After all the term "starving artists" wasn't coined after the iPhone gained market dominance. ;)
 
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This will compromise iPhone security.

Some apps will not submit to the App Store in order to drive all sales to their outside store to increase profits.

Others apps will stay outside to avoid Apple review process. Bugs and deliberate surveillance will run rampant.

Fake apps will proliferate outside with no oversight.

Welcome to your diminished privacy and acct security world.

Big mistake EU. Big.
Dumbest take ever.

You ever used a Mac?

Argument invalid.

Edit to lol heartily at negative reactions. This is no different than being able to run whatever I want on a Mac. Not one bit. And there's zero argument to the contrary that holds any water.
 
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I'll extend your point. With the EU thinking is it fair that Walmart can buy a 6-pack of Budweiser for $2, but the local grocer has to pay $3 a 6-pack. That is where this all ends up.

The thing I described is real and exists. I kind of see it the other way around.

It’s more like there’s only one store that sells beer. It’s not a law but it is de facto this way. The government wants to allow beer distribution from more than that one store.

It’s almost entirely not the store’s beer, the beer was all made by independent craft brewers and a few giant brewing companies. The store argues that only they should be allowed to sell beer because only they can guarantee the safety and quality of the beer.

But they’ve been doing a bad job lately, have a lot of arbitrary rules that favor the store over the brewers, and a few rat heads have wound up in bottles. The beer makers increasingly want alternatives for how to distribute their beer.

The store doesn’t actually seem to care, as long as the brewers still pay them for distribution, whether the store is actually distributing it or not, because the store believes that without them the brewers would have no drinkers to sell their beer to.

It’s not actually about the safest and best way to sell the beer, it’s about the money.

It’s not a perfect analogy but I think it’s pretty close.
 
Just like Android is forced to endue multiple app sources? Hasn't happened; all the major apps are on the Play store.
Google literally just lost to Epic over this very thing i.e. Google has been using its monopoly power to prevent this from happening…
 
I agree wholeheartedly the EU telling phone manufacturers what to do is asinine.

That said, let it all burn. Let them sideload, let the malware proliferate.... let it burn. Sometimes you just have to let it all come crashing down until people realize what they've done.

And in the end, nobody has to sideload. Even if this jackassery goes global, you don't have to sideload or install unsafe apps. It's not like someone else destroying their Mac or PC affects you directly. Same is true for phones — if people want to do whatever they want and suffer the consequences ... I'm all for it. Beavers gonna beave.

But this is asinine to be sure.
 
An emulator doesn’t perform any unusual operations that other apps don’t also do. Maybe they can’t do JIT compilation, but most emulators don’t do that anyway AFAIK. This is mainly just Apple banning a certain type of application, like they ban porn apps.

I’m not a programmer, but I do know Apple makes extensive use of entitlements and private APIs. There are some things that the operating system just plain refuses to do for anyone but Apple. I don’t think distribution is going to change that.
 
Mate..this is more attempts at capitalism not of fairness. They want to demolish the sandbox model because with it they’re limited in access. But to open a hole in it, they may be able to gain more control like with android.

It’s not the “for the consumers!” Coup you think it is I’m afraid.

How would the EU benefit from a capitalistic standpoint? EU produces no apps. The companies that would create new app stores (and apps) would be American companies such as Steam, Meta, Epic and others. All American companies.
 
Wonder if something like making side loading available for just the SE or regular non-Pro models would be a potential workaround?

That way if people want side loading they can get it in the less popular models.
 
I’m pretty tech savvy. Side loading isn’t a problem for me. I’d probably never use it. I can’t wait to hear the complaints start rolling in that ‘my iPhone has a virus’, ‘my iPhone just bricked because of a malicious app’, ‘my iPhone has been hacked and all my credit card info has been comprised’, etc, etc, etc. I’ll just laugh and go along my way.

My iPhone is the most important piece of tech that I have. It helps with my job, my communication, my getting around in unkown places, paying for items when I’m out and about, etc. I’m not taking chances of being somewhere and this device breaks in my most time of need. If my computer is compromised or has a virus, ehh, I still have a computer in my pocket and I’ll survive. The difference is my home computer isn’t in my pocket and needed by me multiple times a day.

Give people side loading and warn them, and then ignore all the complaints and don’t support them when they break their phone. I’m just an old fart and this is just my opinion. It won’t affect me in any way, but boy am I glad I don’t work for Apple technical support any longer. What a nightmare.

I’ve been a computer nerd since the 80’s and I just don’t care about reliving any of those nightmares because of malicous entities and I’ve have had to fix hundreds of computers because of malicious software over the years. <end of rant> LOL
 
I hope a bit of competition gets Apple to invest a bit more into its App Stores. I still mourn the loss of wishlists.

I look at Steam and think it's a great example of the kinds of things Apple could do - better review system, better discoverability (this is key), community interactions, better preview media, clear what is DLC, etc.

Apple's App Store isn't going anywhere due to inertia and being pre-installed, but if Apple allows its store front to continue to stagnate then someone else will eat some of its lunch.
Oh I totally agree, the actual App Store interface is a complete mess.
The last time it was totally rewritten was 2017, and it’s only gotten worse since.
 
Who said I think that? But there’s still some safeguards. There’s compulsory do not track and other helpful things that stem some of the tide.

The alternative is a flood and I’ve no idea why anyone thinks that’s a better world.

I don't know what flood you are afraid of? If you don't sideload apps, you won't have any problems?
The rules that are being applied are giving you the same benefits (and sure, potential threats) that your Mac does.
 
This makes no sense.

If anything, it is giving consumers more choice, not less. If you still prefer only using the App Store fine.

But now Apple will be forced to compete on lower store taxes, which means lower prices for consumers.
There is a chance the apps currently in the App Store will not be in the new EU App Store, and developers will have to resubmit them.
 
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I don't know what flood you are afraid of? If you don't sideload apps, you won't have any problems?
The rules that are being applied are giving you the same benefits (and sure, potential threats) that your Mac does.
No..the Mac and iPhone are not the same thing haha. iPhone is sandboxed..the Mac is not.
 
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