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ipure

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it's just a software, iphone 4 hardwares can definitely support it. instead, apple decides to make this feature iphone4s exclusive... way to milk moar $$$
 

Nioxic

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The editing of photos like they show in the iphone 4S video isn't in either, which is just even more weird, imo.

(or maybe i just missed it completely)
 

nfl46

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How do you know the hardware supports it? Are you CERTAIN it doesn't need the A5 chip?
 

oliversl

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Maybe after the beta period Siri will be available to all iOS5. Also, the ifixit teardown would reveal if there is a chip for Siri.
 

ru4real

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How do you know the hardware supports it? Are you CERTAIN it doesn't need the A5 chip?

Because people with iPhone 4's were rocking SIRI until Apple took it over and announced it would be for iPhone 4S only. Now people who used to have it don't.
 

USMCWifey07

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Aug 17, 2011
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yes that is correct!!! siri is exclusively for the iPhone 4s, how else do you think they would get people to upgrade
 

coltman75

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Because people with iPhone 4's were rocking SIRI until Apple took it over and announced it would be for iPhone 4S only. Now people who used to have it don't.

No. It wasn't. Not at all. The Siri app and iPhone 4S Siri are entirely different. App Siri just did internet searches for things. iPhone 4S Siri actually interacts with the phone's apps. Sometimes multiple apps at once. (for instance, if you get a text message with a time and data in it, Siri will read the message and then check your calendar to see if you're free.)

The Siri app was a baby version of what we see in iPhone 4S.
 

Noisemaker

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it's just a software, iphone 4 hardwares can definitely support it. instead, apple decides to make this feature iphone4s exclusive... way to milk moar $$$

This has been known since the keynote.

And it's also well known that just "working" isn't good enough for Apple. It has to work *perfectly*. And for them to get perfection with Siri, it requires the iPhone 4S.
 

ipure

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Because people with iPhone 4's were rocking SIRI until Apple took it over and announced it would be for iPhone 4S only. Now people who used to have it don't.

ya it's pretty f'ed up, now my old Siri says it will terminate on this friday...
so not only we don't get the new one, they also take away the old one.
 

nfl46

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Because people with iPhone 4's were rocking SIRI until Apple took it over and announced it would be for iPhone 4S only. Now people who used to have it don't.

So, you telling me that Siri was that deeply implemented into iOS 4? We knew of the application that was in the App Store. That is like a lite version compared to the iOS 5 one.
 

ipure

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This has been known since the keynote.

And it's also well known that just "working" isn't good enough for Apple. It has to work *perfectly*. And for them to get perfection with Siri, it requires the iPhone 4S.

wait, you actually bought that crap?
you know only difference as far as Siri is concerned is that iphone4s comes with a faster processor right? but the truth is Siri doesn't need that much processing power to work "perfectly." without going into much software engineering technicality, i can assure you it would work very fine and smoothly with A4 processor.
 

Jibbajabba

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wait, you actually bought that crap?
you know only difference as far as Siri is concerned is that iphone4s comes with a faster processor right? but the truth is Siri doesn't need that much processing power to work "perfectly." without going into much software engineering technicality, i can assure you it would work very fine and smoothly with A4 processor.

People said the same about ios4 on the original 3G which effectively turned it into an iBrick.
 

samcraig

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wait, you actually bought that crap?
you know only difference as far as Siri is concerned is that iphone4s comes with a faster processor right? but the truth is Siri doesn't need that much processing power to work "perfectly." without going into much software engineering technicality, i can assure you it would work very fine and smoothly with A4 processor.

The heavy lifting for Siri is done on the server side - which is why it needs an internet connection.
 

KGWVU

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Jun 15, 2010
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it's just a software, iphone 4 hardwares can definitely support it. instead, apple decides to make this feature iphone4s exclusive... way to milk moar $$$

First I have heard of it. Can anybody confirm??

:rolleyes:
 

MCKENNATECH

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Oct 11, 2011
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If you owned the company, you'd do the exact same thing. I'm tired of people complaining about things not being available on past iPhones. This is how business works, and yes Siri is capable of working on iPhone 4 but without the speedy chips it wouldn't be as efficient. AND YES, they also don't mind that people will buy the 4s simply for that. Stop complaining
 

szolr

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Jul 27, 2011
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it's just a software, iphone 4 hardwares can definitely support it.

And you personally know that do you? I suppose you're one of the people who once insisted multitasking would work on the iPhone 3G. Look at the tech specs for the 4 and the 4S. Observe the processor difference.

Your logic is like saying Final Cut Pro will work on an old iBook with 512 MB of RAM...

instead, apple decides to make this feature iphone4s exclusive... way to milk moar $$$

And can you blame them? Apple didn't become one of the richest companies in the world by giving out their innovations for free!!

If you want it that much get an iPhone 4S. Hell, I hate it how people expect all the latest features to come to a 16 month old phone. You want the camera to magically upgrade to 8 megapixels as well? :rolleyes:
 

bryanc87

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Oct 9, 2011
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Sell yur ip4 and pay the extra 100 dollars or so and you have bought an ip4s without paying full price wooo
 

mikethebigo

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May 25, 2009
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Okay guys, take a deep breath.

1. Yeah, Apple wants you to buy stuff. Are you actually surprised?

2. I've read that a large part of Siri's processing occurs in one of the two cores of the A5's PowerVR GPU. If this is the case, Siri would never be compatible with iPhone 4.
 
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