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Humm, I vote for Leopard in April, June is way too long IMO (I wish at least).

Anyway, the iPhone WILL have 3rd party apps, but it will be a closed system, Apple decides which 3rd party apps are "good enough" or "stable enough" to be included in their Phone. The thing is, this isn't strange at all, they control the iPod in the same way and they haven't let us down so... I figure they'll make wise choices regarding this issue. Have a little faith :)
 
Here's a little recap of my opinions:

Possibility: Leopard
Yes because.. It's a major thing. Spring 2007.
No because.. they might have rush the release. They might release it earlier, due to Vista release.

Possibility: iPhone
Yes because.. They already said it's going to be released in June.
No because.. They already announced it (you don't announce a product twice).

Possibility: New machines
Yes because.. approaching end of cycle by then. New hardware.
No because.. not really news for developers unless it's a whole generation of Mac Pros or xserves (not a speed bump).

Possibility: SATA Xserve
Yes because.. we're pretty damn sure that it exists. WWDC is for devs, thus Xserve.
No because.. no "wow" effect.

Possibility: Ultra portable
Yes because.. there's a need for one. There's some rumors on one. It sort of appeals to developers.
No because.. we don't know for sure that Apple's working on one. Might also "require" a whole new generation of portables to go with.
 
iPhone is a smartphone. And smartphones can do a lot of what a regular computer can do.

a Phone is different then a computer. People ecpect phones to work 100% for years. Phines are also "real time" devices. Here is a pretty good introduction to why a phjone is not a computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_operating_system
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No buggy piece of software has ever bricked any smartphone that I know of. Why should OSX mobile be any different?

Your description of such a mobile OSX is one that should never be put in a phone - it simply would not be ready for primetime.

The words "Extremely dodgy" comes to mind. Don't touch with a barge pole.

We don't know how "stripped down" the "mobile OS X" is. What if it lacks the concept of file and process ownership and user accounts? What if the iPhone hardware lacks an MMU (Memory managment unit) If so then a buggy application could not only crash the phone but take out some system files turrning the iPhone into a brick that needs to be sent back for service.

You say "unlikely" for some random bug to take out the firmware in flash. Yes. But what about Trojans? If anyone can make software, many people will and idiots will install junk on their phones. If the OS is as stripped down as above than security is imposable, not just hard but imposable. You can't let random software run on such a system

Every other smartphone OS has this concern too - but they don't restrict third party software. Instead they improve the security features, for example, Symbian 9.


My guess is that they will announce a developer program. That is a system where people can develop software and then hand it over the Apple for testing and distribution or perhaps Apple will allow certain shops that have very good and well documented processes in place to do their own testing.

That will be very expensive - who do you think will pay for Apple's QA time? Apple or the developer? Answer - the developer. Symbian has a similar programme - EXCEPT - its only required if an application requires sufficient priviledges ( which are very few and far beween ). Your run of the mill application won't require this.

Additionally - making this mandatory for ANY iphone app will rule out hobby shareware and most certainly freeware / opensource developers.
 
Maybe... Just Maybe

Maybe they will announce that the iPhone will be unlocked and will be compatible with someone (anybody) other than Cingular. (at least Sprint) and we can get one without that crap contract.:D
 
Here's a little recap of my opinions:

Possibility: Leopard
Yes because.. It's a major thing. Spring 2007.
No because.. they might have rush the release. They might release it earlier, due to Vista release.

Possibility: iPhone
Yes because.. They already said it's going to be released in June.
No because.. They already announced it (you don't announce a product twice).

Possibility: New machines
Yes because.. approaching end of cycle by then. New hardware.
No because.. not really news for developers unless it's a whole generation of Mac Pros or xserves (not a speed bump).

Possibility: SATA Xserve
Yes because.. we're pretty damn sure that it exists. WWDC is for devs, thus Xserve.
No because.. no "wow" effect.

Possibility: Ultra portable
Yes because.. there's a need for one. There's some rumors on one. It sort of appeals to developers.
No because.. we don't know for sure that Apple's working on one. Might also "require" a whole new generation of portables to go with.

I like your bipolar style BTW.

I have said since my first post about Leopard releases they would release it "early" in Spring 2007. So around March 21 or so. They need to get 10.5.0 out and keep going full speed ahead on back channel bug fixes and feature enhancements so when you do your software update to 10.5.1 you get a stable system and interesting "new" features.

On new hardware it is a cinch you will see Mac-Mini C2D, MacBookPro15, and a quiet update to X-serve and RAID SATA/SAS.

As for the ultraportable, I have a different view. I think it will be a super-iPhone (ATNN)(Apple Tablet Not Nano) with many of the iPhone features PLUS. Bigger screen, better antennas, larger storage, etc. I am not expecting something along the lines of a PowerBook 12". I do expect to see the bottom access CD. I think it will have fullscreen and touchscreen.

I could be wrong, but I was not wrong about ATN.

The ATN announcement will also announce 2-3 additional killer apps.

Rocketman
 
What ever happened to the February 20th announcement?

My Prediction For WWDC(for what it's worth):

iFridge (with developers kit and ice tray)

iChair (not to be confused with High Chair)

And one more thing...

Burt Reynolds comes out with John Mayer to sing a song, probably Eastbound and Down from Smokey in the Bandit.

Burt Reynolds or not, it's not going to be Leopard because that will be released sooner... I PRAY. Then again, am I really going to be more productive with a never version of OS X? I always install my new OS, then just hop on Safari to check out these rumor sites.

OH WELL.
 
I like your bipolar style BTW.

Thanks.

I have said since my first post about Leopard releases they would release it "early" in Spring 2007. So around March 21 or so. They need to get 10.5.0 out and keep going full speed ahead on back channel bug fixes and feature enhancements so when you do your software update to 10.5.1 you get a stable system and interesting "new" features.

When would you expect .5.1 to come out then?

On new hardware it is a cinch you will see Mac-Mini C2D, MacBookPro15, and a quiet update to X-serve and RAID SATA/SAS.

Though that's not stuff that can/should be presented in WWDC.

As for the ultraportable, I have a different view. I think it will be a super-iPhone (ATNN)(Apple Tablet Not Nano) with many of the iPhone features PLUS. Bigger screen, better antennas, larger storage, etc. I am not expecting something along the lines of a PowerBook 12". I do expect to see the bottom access CD. I think it will have fullscreen and touchscreen.

A Tablet Mac? There's quite a need for one and there's already a similar product, the ModBook, though the price is quite a problem Hopefully Apple will be able to produce something more affordable.

I could be wrong, but I was not wrong about ATN.

The ATN announcement will also announce 2-3 additional killer apps.

Rocketman
 
WWDC IMHO might mean:
new octo-core MacPro's with new enclosure designs.
new Cinema displays with new enclosure designs.
new Cinema display 40"+

Maybe all the above could happen at NAB, but I have the feeling Apple will wait. I think NAB will be about mostly Final Cut Studio apps.

Leopard, I believe will be here in April alongside Adobe CS3.

I would love to see the widescreen video ipod with 120gig by then. I hope it happens soon.
 
I don't think it means that at all. No reason Apple can't launch Leopard at any time in between.

arn

Do you really think Apple would quietly release Leopard?

(Maybe it'll be in Software Update...)
 
Yeah what happened to Feb 20! I hope I do not have to wait until then for my new MacPro!

Anyone hear anything on when they are coming, any Mac news for that matter?

:(
 
Hey guys, going to throw my hat in the ring with my predictions what da ya think!:

1:Leapord/ilife07/iwork07 will already be released by June wwdc. Therefore allowing:
2:New Imac product line to be announced.
3:New Mac mini line to be announced.

And on a tangent maybe:

4:New true video iPod.

I would also like to think rumors of April iPhone launch are true but maybe full spec iPhone will be launched at wwdc07 with the rumored missing apps which I think are iwork.

What do you guys think. I could list more but when does Mr Jobs anounce more than three products at any keynote speech.
 
The fact that Apple doesn't even mention Leopard in this initial announcement tells me it will be out before the WWDC07.

Maybe they've cancelled Leopard ;-)

(I mean, seriously, all those suggesting it'll be out before WWDC: Is Leopard so boring that Jobs wouldn't want to demonstrate its new features? Was the preview at '06 genuinely everything? I really hope not.)
 
They'll do what they have done for every other OSX release that arrived outside of any Mac World / Developer conference.

Do you really think Apple would quietly release Leopard?

(Maybe it'll be in Software Update...)
 
Is Leopard so boring that Jobs wouldn't want to demonstrate its new features? Was the preview at '06 genuinely everything? I really hope not.)

My friend Apple at any moment can call a special event to launch Leopard.
I am pretty sure this is what is going to happen.

WWDC will be focus on hardware announcements for the professional folks.
 
My friend Apple at any moment can call a special event to launch Leopard.
I am pretty sure this is what is going to happen.

WWDC will be focus on hardware announcements for the professional folks.

While that's partially true the WWDC07 will more than likely concentrate on Mac OS 10.5 and a forward look at he new OS based on the Unix ZFS and associated technologies.with a couple pieces of Pro hardware thrown in.


I'm guessing we see Leopard around April like I've been saying.And I do believe there really are some hidden features of Leopard not shown yet.
 
While that's partially true the WWDC07 will more than likely concentrate on Mac OS 10.5 and a forward look at he new OS based on the Unix ZFS and associated technologies.with a couple pieces of Pro hardware thrown in.


I'm guessing we see Leopard around April like I've been saying.And I do believe there really are some hidden features of Leopard not shown yet.

I agree. The latest seed of leapord sounds like it is nearly ready for launch. The reason I think jobs has not announced a special event is because he genuinely did not know when it would be ready and did not want to launch it till it was 100% ready and also did not want to work to time constraints to ensure nothing was overlooked. I think an event end of March or April will see the launch of leapord with unknown apps to make our and microsoft vista user jaw bounce off the floor.
 
iphone is my ilife....

Maybe they'll finally announce iLife '07. :)

God knows it could use a major upgrade, especially iDVD, which I've been fighting with for the last 5 days.

I think Leopard will be released at WWDC just in time to show off the "secret features" that hooks up with iPhone in some kinky, sexy ways we haven't seen yet. That's my expectation, at least.

Given the June announcement, I think Apple will release new Mac Pros sometime in late February or early March, otherwise the line-up would have gone without a refresh for nearly 10 months!

Don't know about iLife, but I agree with you on the tie in between Leopard and the iPhone at WWDC. My understanding is that there is an anonymous application and when it gets closer to full launch we'll learn more about it.

Apple has another trick up their sleeve. The iPhone is going to be huge. Here's another reason why:

Cingular is going to change their rate structure very shortly and give consumers a 50% overall reduction. It will come out very soon. :eek:

It'll be another boon to Apple before launch. :p
 
Maybe they've cancelled Leopard ;-)

(I mean, seriously, all those suggesting it'll be out before WWDC: Is Leopard so boring that Jobs wouldn't want to demonstrate its new features? Was the preview at '06 genuinely everything? I really hope not.)

Given the complete lack of any Mac-related product since the comming of the phone, you've got to wonder... However if Apple shows of the final Leopard at WWDC, then it is not going to ship for at least 6 to 8 weeks after that. Which would make it very late. Not a goof thing after publicaly poakin fun at Vista. If Leopard is shipping by WWDC then you are looking at a late April (24th?) launch - which just happens to match the more balanced estimates people have been making.

Steve will most certainly talk about how rapid the uptake of Leopard has been (with a keynote presentation to prove it).

WWDC is for developers, to I suspect it will be the iPhone dev kit and applications validation process that will be the main feature.
 
4. An app to run Windows apps without Windows installed.

This has been on my list of dream features ever since the announcement two years ago that Apple would switch to Intel chips.

I don't want Windows and OSX on my machine, one for Windows apps and the other for Mac apps. I just want Outlook (not Entourage) and WordPerfect (don't ask) to run on my Mac exactly as they do on my PC.

The would effectively remove the only reason many people have for keeping a Windows computer around.
 
This has been on my list of dream features ever since the announcement two years ago that Apple would switch to Intel chips.

I don't want Windows and OSX on my machine, one for Windows apps and the other for Mac apps. I just want Outlook (not Entourage) and WordPerfect (don't ask) to run on my Mac exactly as they do on my PC.

The would effectively remove the only reason many people have for keeping a Windows computer around.
Then you're looking for CrossOver Mac (depending on the version of WP you are using, at least one version is not compatible).
 
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